From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V1 #18 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Thursday, April 30 1998 Volume 01 : Number 018 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:15:05 -0400 From: Ngo Vinh-Hoi Subject: DG: Re: What means Karotechia? Someone asked what the term Karotechia means--I had the same question myself before the list started, so I asked Alphonse & this is the answer I got: (BTW, how about "Ask Alphonse" as a semi-regular Q&A feature here?) Hoi >Return-Path: >Subject: Re: What means Karotechia? >Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 23:52:26 -0800 >x-sender: alphonse@blarg.net >From: Joseph Camp >To: "Ngo Vinh-Hoi" > >Agent Victor: > >Per your request-- > >>For the record when briefing rookie agents, what is the exact translation of >>the name "Karotechia"? > >This has been a source of confusion for Delta Green since we first fought >members of the Karotechia during the war. You see, "Karotechia" has no >meaning in German. It might simply be a proper name with no literal >meaning, or it could be a corruption of some older term or a term from a >language other than German. In our earliest reports of Karotechia >activity decades ago, some sources claimed "Karotechia" meant "the >science of magic." This is not the proper German term for that phrase, >however, so that explanation is, as yet, incomplete. > >I regret that I can supply no definitive explanation for the source and >meaning of the term. It is one more secret that the Nazis seem to have >taken to their graves. > >be seeing you, >Alphonse > hoi@pipeline.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:27:40 -0400 From: "Jon Capps" Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion : Phil A Posehn denies that he said: : : > Be Seeing You, : : No.6? That's what I've been thinking. I used to catch Prisoner reruns on the Sci-Fi channel, but haven't seen enuf of them to piece them together (is that even possible?). They were great, tho. Anyone have info on how I can get more info on the show? Can I get the episodes on tape from anywhere? Please reply to my e-mail address, unless of course, there's a larger interest shown on the list. Have fun, and Be seeing you Jon jcapps@yancey.main.nc.us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:36:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael S Beck Subject: Re: DG: Agents & Pull On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, G. Wyckoff wrote: Another possibility is MJ-12 offering a DG agent a "job", without MJ-12 knowing tyhat he is a DG agent. A DG agent needs to develop skills like dealing with the beauracracy, logical analysis, and other skills that MJ-12 wants. > > > > I'm acting along somewhat similar lines too. I'm using a recruiter > > character who's somewhere up the chain in the Intelligence Community, > > not very high profile though. Maybe MJ-12 find out about him and does > > something, maybe not... > > > Morten Kjeldseth Pettersen - morty@os.telia.no > > Possible Keepers Eye's only. > > One thing to do is to have MJ-12 wave a possible recruit right under the > nose of a possible DG agent. The DG agent risks exposure bringing them > into the fold even as a friendly, but a really good MJ-12 operation might > focus on someone who isn't even in the MJ-12 conspiracy yet. I'll attempt > to clarify: > > MJ-12 thinks that FBI Special Agent Fox Mulder is a DG operative. In an > effort to keep close tabs on him, they pull out someone they were thinking > of recruiting into MJ-12, Agent Dana Scully. Miss Scully is a perfect > MJ-12 operative; she does thorough work and would never risk exposing what > little she would ever know of the conspiracy if she believed that MJ-12 > was working in the best interest of the citizens of the US. MJ-12 can keep > close tabs on Miss Scully, because her father was in the MJ-12 > organization prior to his death, and her brother, in the US Navy, is also > a highly prized member of MJ-12. Instead, they decide that they will pull > some strings and have Dana Scully assigned to Fox Mulder as his partner. > She will be completely innocent of the conspiracy. When Fox pulls her > deeper into DG, MJ-12 will let her know that Fox is the one working > against the best interests of society to pursue his own agenda. They will > already have gathered a lot of evidence about Mulder and his associates > from the close tabs they are able to keep on Scully, and when they than > turn her completely, she will willingly aid them to expose the deeper > conspiracy that Fox is a part of. > > How does this affect your players? What if they are the ones faced with > the daunting task of recruiting new friendlies? What if that friendly > turns out to not be so friendly after all, after several campaigns where > they have proven themselves invaluable? How crushing is that? If that > friendly was recommended to them by someone higher up in the DG foodchain, > will they ever trust that person again? > > Just a reminder that death is not always the way to deal with someone in > the other guys conspiracy. > > Jerry > gwyckoff@midway.uchicago.edu > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 01:08:05 +1000 From: Rob Shankly Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion G'day- Jon Capps wrote: > Anyone have info on how I can get more info on (The Prisoner)? Believe it or not, there is a GURPS suppliment (the RPG club I'm part of has a copy). It is now out of print but I've seen a couple of copies in Aust, so I presume there would be some available in the US. See also http://boris.qub.ac.uk/ds/prisoner/pages/information.html > Can I get the episodes on tape from anywhere? Yes, there are 13 episodes (?) all (?) available on tape. Good luck - -- Rob Shankly ludo@bigpond.com.au When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:03:59 -0400 From: "Eric Brennan" Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion - -----Original Message----- From: Rob Shankly To: Delta Green List Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 11:26 AM Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion >Jon Capps wrote: >> Anyone have info on how I can get more info on (The Prisoner)? > >Believe it or not, there is a GURPS suppliment (the RPG club I'm part of >has a copy). It is now out of print but I've seen a couple of copies in >Aust, so I presume there would be some available in the US. >See also http://boris.qub.ac.uk/ds/prisoner/pages/information.html The GURPS supplement may be available in the States from Steve jackson Games themselves... check out www.sjgames.com and look for the search link. The tapes are available (stateside) from CBS Video... They have an ad about once a month or so in the TV Guide, or you can check them out on the web. They'll send one episode a month to you. They have all 17 episodes, and I think they offer the "alternate" Chimes of Big Ben episode as well. There's also a highly recommended book out, called the Prisoner Companion. I've got a copy, and 5 years ago it was about $12.95. It runs down the plots and subplots of each episode, and at the end discusses the major themes and symbolism. (Who was Number One? Was it Allegorical? What does the bicycle mean?) It's out of print now, but www.Amazon.com will search used-book stores for it for free. Be Seeing You, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Edson Subject: DG: Megapolisomancy Not *strictly* DG, but certainly modern... Has anyone done/seen a writeup on this tome? (From Fritz Leiber's _Our Lady of Darkness_) It's a natural, I think. "If you promise not to mention me in YOUR autobiography, I'll promise to ignore you in mine..." pedson@erols.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:42:28 -0400 From: Joel_Lovell@mastercard.com Subject: DG: Greetings Hello folks, I bought it (DG sourcebook), and I love it! Looking forward to running this for my players, and hope to contribute a variety of interesting bits on this list. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Womack Subject: DG: Technology Report The following URL links to a story in the San Jose Mercury News about breakthroughs in quantum computing. The scientists involved speak as if this were an independent discovery; as we all know, the source for such technological breakthroughs is in fact rarely simple human ingenuity. "Practical applications," touted to be "years away" in the article, are doubtless in widespread use among certain parties with whom DG comes in contact on an all-too-frequent basis. Keepers should consider the ramifications of such technology, and agents should be on the lookout for its ultimate source and any dangerous implementations. http://www1.sjmercury.com/scitech/center/quantum0428.htm Chris Womack Keeper of the List oaktree@nocturne.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:43:06 -0700 From: paposehn@juno.com (Phil A Posehn) Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion Jon Capps inquires about "The Prisoner" episodes. Some of them used to be available at some of the stores at the Blockbuster chain, so they must be available on tape. Perhaps Blockbuster even yet in some locations? Good Luck Phil _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:11:12 -0700 From: paposehn@juno.com (Phil A Posehn) Subject: DG: inquiry Can anyone supply me with information on the details of how the "book codes" work? I'm aware that they require both parties to have copies of the same edition of the same book and that they use the text to generate a constantly changing encryption key. I'd like to use them as a replacement for computers as a means of secret communications in my game. My feelings are that MJ12's penetration of the NSC makes the net too potentially dangerous and that a book code encourages a little more role playing. Be seeing you, Phil Posehn _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:22:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Womack Subject: Re: DG: inquiry On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Phil A Posehn wrote: > Can anyone supply me with information on the details of how the "book > codes" work? I'm aware that they require both parties to have copies of > the same edition of the same book and that they use the text to generate > a constantly changing encryption key. I'd like to use them as a > replacement for computers as a means of secret communications in my game. > My feelings are that MJ12's penetration of the NSC makes the net too > potentially dangerous and that a book code encourages a little more role > playing. This brings to mind the Sherlock Holmes short story (unfortunately I can't remember the title at present) in which one of Holmes' informers sends him a message in book-code, but does not send him the book that serves as the code's key. Holmes deduces that the volume in question would have to be fairly common and readily accessible (based on what he knew of his informant's class and background). When Watson suggests the Bible, Holmes astutely points out that determining the proper edition would be near-impossible. Ultimately he determines that the required volume is an almanac--and here Holmes' punctiliousness betrays him, as he's already acquired the current year's edition and disposed of the previous year's (the one actually used in generating the code). In short, having your agents receive a message coded in this fashion--but not the key--can make for an entertaining session in itself, as they engage in a little old-fashioned sleuthing, attempting to determine the contents of the sender's library, tracking down the correct volume, etc. Sticking such an episode in the midst of a very high-tech scenario could provide a much-needed change of pace (or produce other player responses that a Keeper might find desirable--I know that one of my players, whose agent char is a computer specialist for the NSA, would be driven absolutely nuts by it ;) ). Doubtless this wasn't exactly the sort of response you were looking for, but hopefully it will prove useful nonetheless. Chris Womack Keeper of the List oaktree@nocturne.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:28:36 +0200 From: PM Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion >> Anyone have info on how I can get more info on (The Prisoner)? >Believe it or not, there is a GURPS suppliment (the RPG club I'm part of >has a copy). It is now out of print but I've seen a couple of copies in >Aust, so I presume there would be some available in the US. >See also http://boris.qub.ac.uk/ds/prisoner/pages/information.html Totally out of print since SJG rightsto publish it ran out a few years ago. >> Can I get the episodes on tape from anywhere? >Yes, there are 13 episodes (?) all (?) available on tape. 17 episodes. They have been released on tapes in England. Don't know if any US NTSC) edition exist but I would bet there is one as it is chronicled in a video guide I use (Video Movie Guide by Nick Martin & Marsha Porter, Ballantine Books). Patrice Mermoud ============================================= Patrice Mermoud (Paris - France) mermoud@easynet.fr mermoud@mygale.org http://www.mygale.org/~mermoud/ ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew D. Gable" Subject: DG: Ordo Templi Orientis I'd like to let everyone know about a plotline that I've developed for DG. In my games, I generally don't like to use MJ-12 (*too* much, anyway) and just get into nasty occult stuff. This plotline was based off of a misconception on my part, but I think it's a damn good plot anyway. January of 1947 was when the Black Dahlia murder occurred in Los Angeles. Once, while doing a research paper on something else totally, I ran across a reference to the Babylon Temple of the Ordo Templi Orientis, opened in Los Angeles the previous year and led by John W. Parsons, who worked for some aviation office (I'm not sure which--a governmental agency, though). Parsons was also a disciple of Aleister Crowley, and I'm sure everyone knows who he was. Parsons went on about the creation of The Great Harlot Babylon (who, I believe, was approximately the same rank as Crowley's Aiwaz, who some've said was Nyarlathotep) by means of sacrifice of a willing host and some magical rituals (collectively known as the Babylon Working). Supposedly, the Babylon Working was attempted and during it Parsons saw visions of a cloaked gray figure called 'Lam,' looking an awful lot like an average Grey. What I proposed in my campaign was this--what if the Black Dahlia murder was the sacrifice needed for the Working? Would it be coincidence, then, that the modern UFO phenomenon started a few months later? And that the aliens are well-known for sexual experiments and stuff like - ---------- Andrew D. Gable agable@falcon.lhup.edu The CryptoWeb: www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/7270/ "Well, you've got to admit that if that is a woman, it does look as if she's been beaten with an ugly stick." -Austin Powers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:09:33 -0400 From: Daniel Harms Subject: Re: DG: Ordo Templi Orientis At 06:43 PM 4/29/98 -0400, Andrew Gable wrote wrote: >January of 1947 was when the Black Dahlia murder occurred in Los Angeles. >Once, while doing a research paper on something else totally, I ran across >a reference to the Babylon Temple of the Ordo Templi Orientis, opened in >Los Angeles the previous year and led by John W. Parsons, who worked for >some aviation office (I'm not sure which--a governmental agency, though). >Parsons was also a disciple of Aleister Crowley, and I'm sure everyone >knows who he was. I believe that should be "Babalon", not "Babylon", as that was Crowley's preferred spelling. BTW, anyone looking for more information on this particular topic may want to check out Jack Parson's Collected Writings at: http://www.irdg.com/mep/nni/cwjp.txt The scribe mentioned in them was none other than Scientology's own L. Ron Hubbard. Yrs., Daniel Harms dmharms@acsu.buffalo.edu "Fie on the immortality of cast-iron lawn deer!" -- H. P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:01:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew D. Gable" Subject: DG: Whoops. It seems when I was writing my last message that I hit a button by accident and the message was sent out. Here's what I was saying. In my campaign, it's happening that Parsons was actually a progenitor of MJ-12. When he was trying to gate through Babylon, he was actually trying to summon the Greys from Yuggoth (I haven't worked past why it is that if they Greys are mi-go, they needed Parsons to come through). I'm also toying with the idea of making such bloody killers as Jack the Ripper and the Cleveland Torso Killer people in similar positions to Parsons', and then tying the whole thing to cattle mutilations and the rumored (on some UFO sites) human mutilations. So you have several ways DG could get involved with this. The OTO was rumored to be connected to the Thule Group (and therefore, maybe, to the Karotechia). We also have Parsons' military contacts, and the rumor (propagated by him) that one of his ancestors was a member of the Hellfire Club which operated near Kilakee, Ireland (the exact same branch there's a Tale of Terror on the 'net about, BTW) could open the way to international adventures. In conclusion, just let me say that I'm impressed at how many people are on this list. I think it's great that there's discussion about what's probably the best thing to ever happen to CoC. - ---------- Andrew D. Gable agable@falcon.lhup.edu The CryptoWeb: www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/7270/ "Well, you've got to admit that if that is a woman, it does look as if she's been beaten with an ugly stick." -Austin Powers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:19:08 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: inquiry On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Phil A Posehn wrote: > Can anyone supply me with information on the details of how the "book > codes" work? I'm aware that they require both parties to have copies of Go to the library and read a couple of books on basic encryption, or read some of the FAQ's on the internet. RESEARCH! MAN! :) But seriously, the best codes use a little of everything: I pass messages based on a codeword system where each word represents a phrase, situation, contingency etc. This info is passed along via email that is redundantly encrypted. Thus in order to break the code a dedicated network of workstations must compute for a number of hours only to get a nonsense series of words. The codebook is needed to break this additional layer of security. BTW, the code changes every month or so. This is secure enough to assuage even my rampant paranoia. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum RADIANCE : EVALUATION : KNIGHT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:43:21 -0700 From: Neil Laughlin Subject: Re: DG: Ordo Templi Orientis On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 06:43:30PM -0400, Andrew D. Gable wrote: > January of 1947 was when the Black Dahlia murder occurred in Los Angeles. > Once, while doing a research paper on something else totally, I ran across > a reference to the Babylon Temple of the Ordo Templi Orientis, opened in > Los Angeles the previous year and led by John W. Parsons, who worked for > some aviation office (I'm not sure which--a governmental agency, though). > Parsons was also a disciple of Aleister Crowley, and I'm sure everyone > knows who he was. > > Parsons went on about the creation of The Great Harlot Babylon (who, I > believe, was approximately the same rank as Crowley's Aiwaz, who some've > said was Nyarlathotep) by means of sacrifice of a willing host and some > magical rituals (collectively known as the Babylon Working). Supposedly, > the Babylon Working was attempted and during it Parsons saw visions of a > cloaked gray figure called 'Lam,' looking an awful lot like an average > Grey. > > What I proposed in my campaign was this--what if the Black Dahlia murder > was the sacrifice needed for the Working? Would it be coincidence, then, > that the modern UFO phenomenon started a few months later? And that the > aliens are well-known for sexual experiments and stuff like Here's a URL for you: http://www.marsweb.com/~watcher/bluey3.html Have you seen Factoid Books' "Big Book of Conspiracies?" They also go into the Babylon Working there. According to that book's sources, Parsons' partner in the Babylon Working was the infamous L. Ron Hubbard, and the goal was to open up some sort of gate. The Big Book (excellent reading, by the way, as a quick and dirty intro into government conspiracies) goes right out and makes a connection between this ritual and the sudden increase in alien sightings, but also brings up H. P. Lovecraft and the possibility that Hubbard and Parsons let the Old Ones in. In fact, it looks to me like the Big Book may have pulled from the same source as the URL above. Of course, Hubbard's already come up in the Delta Green setting, at least indirectly. The Church of Scientology bears a certain resemblance to another New Age cult certain DG agents may have dealt with.... Neil Laughlin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:08:35 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: A Conversation with Protomatter CAST OF CHARACTERS : (mib) : The Man in Black (goo) : The Protomatter (Z) : Agent Zed TRANSCRIPT BEGINS: (mib) : "YOU! You disgusting BLOB! You worthless piece of SLIME!" (goo) : (remains inert) (Z) : "Are you sure this is working?" (mib) : "Worked on 'Ghostbusters.'" (goo) : (sessile) (Z) : "You're gonna try to have sex with it aren't you? You Animal!" (mib) : "Uh, hrrm... well, let's not take that train of thought." (Z) : "It's always the quiet ones..." (goo) : (no reply) (mib) : "YOU! You repulsive mass of protoplasm! You steeupid eediot!" (reaches for his gun) (Z) : "WHOA! Back off there cowboy!" (mib) : "No way man! This stuff is Nyarlathotep, I know it, I can *feel* it." (waves his hand cannon around wildly) (Z) : "It doesn't look like Stephan Alzis..." (mib) : "You See! That just proves it! I mean, just *look* at it." (goo) : (silent) (Z) : "You are not well. Not well at all." (mib) : "Watch, I'll try and seduce it, only to reveal it's true form!" (goo) : (motionless) (Z) : (motionless) (mib) : "C'mon protomatter, who's your daddy? Oh, yeah baby, gimme that slippery stuff! I'll make *sweeet* love to you!" (goo) : (does nothing) (Z) : (speechless) (mib) : "Dammit! How can it withstand my awesome manly charm? (Z) : "Gee, maybe it's stunned by your irresistable studliness?" (mib) : "That must be it." (goo) : (devoid of kinetic energy) (mib) : "OK, protomatter, one last chance, reveal your twisted scheme or we'll sell your liquid ass to the Robotech Masters!" (goo) : (no response) (mib) : "What Iron will! Amazing! Oh well, call that purple haired punk Zor, maybe he can use this stuff in his space fortress thingy." TRANSCRIPT ENDS The Man in Black is : the King of Rock, there is none higher. Sucka mib's bow down and call him sire! Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Run like clockwork in a watch, Kick old rappers in the crotch." - - Sushi K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:52:14 -0400 From: Duran Goodyear Subject: DG: An idea... which will probably get my indoctrinated. Well, first off, I have to say, that that is some funny shit. That MIB guy is a funny boy.... I have to forward these to my old keeper from the old games we used to run... :) but, heres my idea... and I analogize if this message is taken the wrong way, I for one am only curious, and would like to know more, I mean no disrespect and in no way want to infringe on your beliefs. Thanks. ...are any of us.. (you know who I'm talking about...) prior members of the church of scientology? if so, what is the chance that we can hear some information about it. I know (from hear say)that they only share more info of the religion as you give them more money. (is that true) and I would like to hear anything else people have to say about it. Thanks. At 08:08 PM 4/29/98 -0400, you wrote: >CAST OF CHARACTERS : > >(mib) : The Man in Black >(goo) : The Protomatter >(Z) : Agent Zed > >TRANSCRIPT BEGINS: > >(mib) : "YOU! You disgusting BLOB! You worthless piece of SLIME!" > >(goo) : (remains inert) > >(Z) : "Are you sure this is working?" > >(mib) : "Worked on 'Ghostbusters.'" > >(goo) : (sessile) > >(Z) : "You're gonna try to have sex with it aren't you? You Animal!" > >(mib) : "Uh, hrrm... well, let's not take that train of thought." > >(Z) : "It's always the quiet ones..." > >(goo) : (no reply) > >(mib) : "YOU! You repulsive mass of protoplasm! You steeupid eediot!" >(reaches for his gun) > >(Z) : "WHOA! Back off there cowboy!" > >(mib) : "No way man! This stuff is Nyarlathotep, I know it, I can *feel* >it." (waves his hand cannon around wildly) > >(Z) : "It doesn't look like Stephan Alzis..." > >(mib) : "You See! That just proves it! I mean, just *look* at it." > >(goo) : (silent) > >(Z) : "You are not well. Not well at all." > >(mib) : "Watch, I'll try and seduce it, only to reveal it's true form!" > >(goo) : (motionless) > >(Z) : (motionless) > >(mib) : "C'mon protomatter, who's your daddy? Oh, yeah baby, gimme that >slippery stuff! I'll make *sweeet* love to you!" > >(goo) : (does nothing) > >(Z) : (speechless) > >(mib) : "Dammit! How can it withstand my awesome manly charm? > >(Z) : "Gee, maybe it's stunned by your irresistable studliness?" > >(mib) : "That must be it." > >(goo) : (devoid of kinetic energy) > >(mib) : "OK, protomatter, one last chance, reveal your twisted scheme or >we'll sell your liquid ass to the Robotech Masters!" > >(goo) : (no response) > >(mib) : "What Iron will! Amazing! Oh well, call that purple haired punk >Zor, maybe he can use this stuff in his space fortress thingy." > >TRANSCRIPT ENDS > >The Man in Black is : the King of Rock, there is none higher. Sucka mib's >bow down and call him sire! > >Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum > >"Run like clockwork in a watch, >Kick old rappers in the crotch." >- Sushi K > _____________________________ Duran Goodyear dug96@hampshire.edu IM: Dyson RS ICQ: 3785415 http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~dug96 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:02:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matt C." Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion >Believe it or not, there is a GURPS suppliment (the RPG club I'm part of >has a copy). It is now out of print but I've seen a couple of copies in >Aust, so I presume there would be some available in the US. >See also http://boris.qub.ac.uk/ds/prisoner/pages/information.html Got it, well done look into paranoi and treachery. Some fun elements to steal for DG in there, unfortunately it is, as far as I know, out of print. >Yes, there are 13 episodes (?) all (?) available on tape. I thought it was 17? BSY, Matt C + | + Matt Cowger - Tenebrae@Earthling.net ICQ UIN:5409084 Cam #:9607-020 http://home.gvi.net/~tenebrae + | + ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:10:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matt C." Subject: Re: DG: Ordo Templi Orientis >I believe that should be "Babalon", not "Babylon", as that was Crowley's Keeerect! >preferred spelling. BTW, anyone looking for more information on this >particular topic may want to check out Jack Parson's Collected Writings Another excellent book on Parson's thinking is "Freedom is a Two Edged Sword" published by New Falcon Publications (I can get the address if anyone wants). Another interesting Parson's fact is that he was one of the founders of the Jet Propulsion Laboratories. (He died in a fiery lab explosion) During the time he was rumoured to be engaged in a dangerous occult working. >The scribe mentioned in them was none other than Scientology's own >L. Ron Hubbard. Anyone remember who Hubbard's roomie in college was? - -Matt C + | + Matt Cowger - Tenebrae@Earthling.net ICQ UIN:5409084 Cam #:9607-020 http://home.gvi.net/~tenebrae + | + ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:14:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matt C." Subject: DG: re: Parsons I'm glad to see the whole post Crowley occult scene is being looked into as a source for material. (Parsons is a personal fave of mine :) ) It might dovetail some with what I am working on, those doing it drop me a line. I've got a fairly good knowledge of the modern occult scene. - -Matt C + | + Matt Cowger - Tenebrae@Earthling.net ICQ UIN:5409084 Cam #:9607-020 http://home.gvi.net/~tenebrae + | + ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:23:46 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: The Controllers (keepers only) CORRESPONDING NEUROBROADCAST BEGIN : fractal mode : cortex wavefront detected : eliminating neurolinguistic blocks : sub-collective gestalt established @23847 <<<+>>> This is not a dream. You are receiving a Priority Delta transmission from the New World Order. This is not a dream. TRANSMISSION FOLLOWS: The recent destruction of the North American town of Springfield has been successfully suppressed in the press and reported as chemical contamination to the general public. Judging from the evidence gathered by my @298478 associates, a previously unknown alien force has been detected.
@9054690 &*)(12sfsaWUIm,WhbsO) Satellite imagery of a recently developed alien ecology was noted by the EMERALD program. Strong Electromagnetic phenomena, apparantly caused by the greyish-green translucent alien foliage, appeared overnight, covering an area of approximately three (3) acres before abruptly ceasing further growth. Omega Team was dispatched to investigate and discovered a infestation of what appeared to be numerous alien parasites which had infected the local populace. Several of the alien species were familiar, notably the Shans, the Travelers and the Puppet Masters. Dissection and analysis of townspeople terminated or recovered by Omega, revealed a "Rider" virus infecting not only the people but the parasites infecting and controlling them as well. The Rider virus was present in all animals, earthly vegetation, and alien growth as well. A viscous black oil-like substance was detected in the majority of the infected subjects. This substance could generate powerful and deadly bursts of short term radiation. Several team members were killed before energy sinks could be activated. It also became evidently clear that the NeuroSpore foliage originally detected was capable of tremendous psionic activity. The nervous tissue of the infected townspeople was also being replaced by a translucent greyish-green substance that greatly resembled the alien foliage surrounding the town, hence the name "NeuroSpore." Tiny scarab-like creatures resembling the Shans were observed budding off of the alien foliage, both in the wild and within infected victims. The only Mi-Go captured at the scene (within a human skinsuit) was also found to be infected by the Controllers. The infected alien was returned to the custody of the Mi-Go. Quarantine procedures surrounding the affected area were established immediately. An abortive and nearly disasterous attempt at establishing telepathic contact with the unusual collective intelligence of the Riders revealed a great deal about the symbiotic/parasitic relationships between the various alien species. According to the telepath, the area was being searched by the aliens (who were now being referred to as "The Controllers") for a Tunguska Seed, similar to the two (2) currently under guard at Storage Facility 23. The infestation would recover the seed and subsequently spread throughout the globe. This correlates with the intelligence gathered from the San Carlos EBE known as the Traveler. The telepath was forced to use experimental Psychotronic drugs to avoid the effects of Invasive Telepathy. Astral analysis of the event shows that each alien and their victim was possessed and controlled by an astral parasite. It was the conglomeration of several alien minds and their combined mental assault that caused the telepath to lose consciousness and suffer extreme neurological shock. Feeding the relevant data into the ORACLE correlation engine confirmed what many already believed. Namely, that the primary structure of the alien society was composed of an elaborate "Chain of Control." This chain may well continue beyond our ability to even comprehend, although it was generally accepted that the Astral Parasites existed as close to the top as we could perceive. The prevalent theory was that the Controllers originated in a dimension that was in the latter stages of universal entropy, and that they were engaged in a program to recover as much energy as possible from other Universes in order to save their home. Full mobilization of WEATHER/SPECTRUM was necessary to successfully recover the seed and sterilize the infected area. Currently several observation teams are in the area as a contingency measure. RECOMENDATIONS: 1) All Telepaths be organized into teams of three (3) for future operations. 2) Inoculations against the Rider virus begin immediately among the general population. 3) Biological screening be intensified to once a month for active agents and daily for agents in the field. 4) Trust No One This is not a dream. You have received a Priority Delta signal from the New World Order. This is not a dream. TRANSMISSION ENDS The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:26:22 -0800 From: Gareth Wood Subject: Re: DG: How to Survive in a Lovecraft Story Morten Kjeldseth Pettersen wrote: > Chris Womack wrote: > > > a bunch of really cool stuff< A friend of mine who was a Keeper used to have three rules for his games. 1- Don't go in the dark 2- Don't go anywhere alone 3- Always save the last bullet for yourself Words of wisdom... Gareth - -- "On second thought, let us not go to Z'Ha'Dum. It is a silly place." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:34:33 From: Davide Mana Subject: Re: DG: For Discussion Greetings. I already sent this privately to Jon, but now maybe someone else would like to take a look at it. Sorry, Jon, you're getting this one once again. The Prisoner is one of my earlier and most cherished TV memories (together with The Avengers). While I'm not a fully pledged fan (no member of clubs or such, that is), there a re a few things I can tell you. Here is a short summary of what I know: The series (made by ITC in 1967-68) was very much the brainchild of actor Patrick McGoohan, who wrote and directed (under assorted aliases) many of the episodes. It was not overly successful at first but later attracted (as they say) a cult following. The episodes (17, 50 minutes each), are: - - Arrival - - Free for All - - Checkmate - - Dance of the Dead - - The Chimes of Big Ben - - The Schizoid Man - - It's Your Funeral - - A Change of Mind - - A, B and C - - The General - - Hammer into Anvil - - Many Happy Returns - - Do not Forsake Me, Oh My Darling - - Living in Harmony (never broadcast, shown only when the show was syndicated) - - The Girl who was Death - - Once Upon a Time - - Fall Out I have ultra-short summaries of each episode and I can post them to you if you like. The series was released on 5 VHS tapes about three or four years ago; I do not have further details, but they were published by a British company. From what I know, they should even be available for rental in some video-shops (a friend of mine found them for rent, but he's in Melbourne, Australia). Three novelizations were written in 1969-70 and reprinted in the early 80s: The Prisoner, by Thomas M. Disch The Prisoner N. 2, by David McDaniel The Prisoner 3: A Day in the Life, by Hank Stine I guess they are pretty hard to find today. In the late 80s DC-Comics published a four volume graphics novel (The Prisoner books a-d, by D. Motter & M. Askwith) set in the Village 20 years after the original series. There's a lot of reference books about the series, the two best buys being probably: The Official Prisoner Companion, by M. White& J. Ali (1988) The Prisoner and Danger Man, by Dave Rodgers (1989) [incidentally, "Danger Man" was a more ortodox espionage-series, starring Patrick McGoohan as a secret agent, that was airing before The Prisoner began; this lead some to assume that The Prisoner is some kind of sequel to Dangerman] Rumours about a movie-remake of the series abound - the latest news place Mel Gibson in the titular role, and have the production company gunning for more car-chases and fistfights in the script. I sincerely hope it's all an urban legend. There's also a fan club, called "Six of One" - sorry, but being notoriously a reclusive and anti-social kind of guy, I do not have many infos about this people; a search trough the Web might prove useful in tracking the lot, however. They publish a lot of things about the series, hold an annual convention in the Village (that is an actual place called Portmeirion, in Wales, and was built in 1926) and are officially endorsed by McGoohan himself. And finally, the best part: a "GURPS: The Prisoner" rpg sourcebook, by David Ladyman, was published by Steve Jackson Games in the late 80s; it is quite good (apart from the graphics, that are really poor) and sadly is also currently out of print; but I found a copy on a second hand sale at a local gaming convention, so all hope is not lost. And this is it. I hope you find it useful. Be seeing you. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@iol.it ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:15:02 From: Davide Mana Subject: Re: DG: An Idea... Greetings again. Duran Goodyear wrote... >...are any of us.. (you know who I'm talking about...) prior members of >the church of scientology? >if so, what is the chance that we can hear some information about it. I >know (from hear say)that they only share more info of the religion as you >give them more money. (is that true) and I would like to hear anything >else people have to say about it. >Thanks. If you're looking for data about the Scientology/Dianetics biz, or the Hubbard-Parsons connection, or anything else about Ronnie H., you might like to track down the following: "Bare-Faced Messiah: The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard" by Russell Miller; my paperback copy was printed by Sphere Books in 1987. The book (practically a year-by-year account of the man's life and... adventures) is well researched, includes material gleaned from interviews with former members of the Church of Scientology, and it's generally entertaining (after a slow start). The Church of S. did not take it lightly, but that was only to be espected. I do not know if it's still in print. End of Message. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@iol.it ------------------------------ End of deltagreen-digest V1 #18 *******************************