From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V1 #34 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Friday, June 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 034 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:10:56 EDT From: BailiwickJ@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live In a message dated 98-06-05 02:22:16 EDT, you write: << I desparately want to play DG using Cthulhu Live rules, but my problems are multifold: Has anyone used DG for a Cthulhu live game? Doing what I can with what I've got. >> I too am interested in running DG for a live Cthulu event. I am currently involved in several LARPS, one of which is a Cthulu campaign (we received permission from the company to run official Cthulu events about 2 years ago.) Is there anything out there for running DG live? Katherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 08:13:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matt C." Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live >As mentioned, the weapons are completely realistic, and fire 6mm plastic >pellets using either a spring or compressed gas system. Smaller weapons >will use a CO2 charge, larger and fully-automatic weapons require an >actual tank & feeder system. I hate to sound like a overprotective grandmother, but this is just a worry-habit I picked up from paintball...couldn't one of those pop an eye? I agree about the realistic weapons thing too, if it is a space limited thing and you will be in public I strongly advise against using real looking weapons. Having had a bit of experience in various types of LARPS we've found using cards (with the stats on them) to represent weapons works well in public. And we've played everywhere from sleazy bars to riverboat casinos. ;) - -Matt + | + Matt Cowger - Tenebrae@Earthling.net ICQ UIN:5409084 Cam #:9607-020 http://home.gvi.net/~tenebrae + | + ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:28:56 +0000 From: "John P. Yuda" Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live > On the plus side, you can by 100% authentic looking pistols that use charges > of compressed air. You even have the full auto option. Whee! That's cool. I suppose that since they don't sell those here in the states, it'd be illegal for me to, say, send you a check so you could send me a couple. Not that you'd know, but I'm thinking somebody on the list might. > Has anyone used DG for a Cthulhu live game? I seem to remember this coming up earlier, although I can't remember who said they were working on it. I know they weren't finished with it, so searching the archives will get you about as far as figuring out who said they were looking into it. Of course, if said person reads this, they might clue us in. Yuda (being bored at work is a horrible thing. Lucky for me I have a scenario to run tonite and haven't really figured out what I'm doing yet, huh?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:33:50 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: DG: TED Klien In a message dated 98-06-03 19:50:12 EDT, you write: > I mean, there was the brilliant collection "Dark Gods" in *1985* and his > novel Ceremonies some time before that and then he seems to have dropped > off the radar screen entirely. > > Of course, it is *possible* that he wrote something a little to close to > the truth and incured the displeasure of certain forces.....and if so, > we're better off not knowing the details...but I'm kind of hoping he's > alive and well and writing.............somewhere.... > Ah, as I recall, he came into an inheritance about the same time he began an editorship--possibly at the New Yorker or some other very prestegious magazine. Kevin Ross has corresponded with him on occasion, so if you know his address, you might direct the question to him. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 07:54:26 -0700 From: Josh Shaw Subject: DG: GM Assitance Needed. I'm currently running a cross-over DG/CoC campaign. Cross over in the sense that the players have no idea that they're in a DG campaign, tho they've all seen the book. As far as their concerned (so far) they're just playing Cthulhu in the 1990's. Likewise, not all of their characters would be suitable for recruitment into Delta Green. The spooky ex-Air Force major certainly would be (and he's the only one who knows that they're actually working for some secret agency (name unknown) within the goverment) and the geologist could be regarded as a friendly. On the other tenacle, the Historian of Religion is a foriegn national and I'm not sure what policy is on recruiting such. The fundamentalist preacher and the carear crimanal who round out the party are clearly not suitable canidates for recruitment, even as "friendlies". However, one of the Villians, while actually pursueing his own agenda (saving Earth from the forces of the Mythos) is technically employed by Project Garnet, so I think that qualifies the campaign as "Official DG". At any rate, for reasons I won't go into at the moment, it seemed logical to set the campaign in Fargo North Dakota. (OK; I needed a place that would seem logical to test psychoactive food addatives. You want a relatively isolated population but a relatively large number of test subjects.) The trouble is that I know *NOTHING* about Fargo, or for that matter the entire state of North Dakota. Never been there, never even passed through there. I've gone surfing through the net for the local Chamber of Commerce (now that's a CoC that's really scary) guide and such like and intend to pick up a travel guide to the area (if such exists) in the next few days (Fargo was a last second decision. It was going to be Denver, which I somewhat know). I am hoping that somebody on the list knows Fargo well and can give me local information, local color, and any information on military bases, local legands, little known facts, tourist tips (What are the good hotels, where do the players want to go eat, which nieghborhoods do they want to stay out of, which ethnic groups live where, how corrupt are local politics, how corrupt are the local police and sherriffs, are most social services provided by the city or by Case County, what is the local organised crime like and who does it/who runs it, who are the local bike gangs, how is the area fixed for hate groups and extremests, are there survivalists in town or just further out in the hills, how about Militia, what's the local music and art scene like, where do people go/what do they really do on Saturday night, anything else you feel I should know or might be helpful or fun to dump on player characters, etc. You know, the usual. Any advice that can be given would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance - ----Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:07:33 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: dg in the uk In a message dated 98-06-04 18:51:30 EDT, you write: > > Jerry Springer is Nyarlathotep! > BSE is a tool to get people to watch his show! > Death to all SpongeBrains! > Don't be ridiculous. Even Nyarlathotep had depths to which He wil not sink. Springer, unfortunately, cannot be blamed on anyone but us. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:35:52 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: Re: DG: Random Question >Jerry McKelvey wrote > >Didn't some of the members have access to the Resurrection spell? Hmm, >nasty thought here, how about killing off an Agent, he gets resurrected, >but dosen't remember his (first) death...but his team-mates do...that has >some potental for mayhem...esp when he remembers his death... The resurrection spell is a total no-no for PCs! Don't let them get hold of it under any circumstances as it can seriously bitch up your campaign. In one Masks campaign I am aware of, the keeper (foolishly) allowed the investigators to get hold of said spell. They promptly returned to New York from Egypt and raised the guy (I forget his name) who had contacted them in the first place (he gets killed by the bad guys in the first session) and asked him what's going on.... net result is that they managed to short circuit about two thirds of the entire scenario and left a very red faced keeper to try and pick up the pieces. Still, it's the most inventive solution to masks that I've ever come across! Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:45:43 -0400 From: Joel_Lovell@mastercard.com Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. Well one thing is that Fargo is very cold. Also, it's got an Air Force Base. :) My uncle was a navigator for an F-4 squadron a decade or two ago. Josh Shaw on 06/05/98 10:54:26 AM Please respond to Delta Green List To: deltagreen@nocturne.org cc: (bcc: Joel Lovell/NYC/MASTERCARD) Subject: DG: GM Assitance Needed. I'm currently running a cross-over DG/CoC campaign. Cross over in the sense that the players have no idea that they're in a DG campaign, tho they've all seen the book. As far as their concerned (so far) they're just playing Cthulhu in the 1990's. Likewise, not all of their characters would be suitable for recruitment into Delta Green. The spooky ex-Air Force major certainly would be (and he's the only one who knows that they're actually working for some secret agency (name unknown) within the goverment) and the geologist could be regarded as a friendly. On the other tenacle, the Historian of Religion is a foriegn national and I'm not sure what policy is on recruiting such. The fundamentalist preacher and the carear crimanal who round out the party are clearly not suitable canidates for recruitment, even as "friendlies". However, one of the Villians, while actually pursueing his own agenda (saving Earth from the forces of the Mythos) is technically employed by Project Garnet, so I think that qualifies the campaign as "Official DG". At any rate, for reasons I won't go into at the moment, it seemed logical to set the campaign in Fargo North Dakota. (OK; I needed a place that would seem logical to test psychoactive food addatives. You want a relatively isolated population but a relatively large number of test subjects.) The trouble is that I know *NOTHING* about Fargo, or for that matter the entire state of North Dakota. Never been there, never even passed through there. I've gone surfing through the net for the local Chamber of Commerce (now that's a CoC that's really scary) guide and such like and intend to pick up a travel guide to the area (if such exists) in the next few days (Fargo was a last second decision. It was going to be Denver, which I somewhat know). I am hoping that somebody on the list knows Fargo well and can give me local information, local color, and any information on military bases, local legands, little known facts, tourist tips (What are the good hotels, where do the players want to go eat, which nieghborhoods do they want to stay out of, which ethnic groups live where, how corrupt are local politics, how corrupt are the local police and sherriffs, are most social services provided by the city or by Case County, what is the local organised crime like and who does it/who runs it, who are the local bike gangs, how is the area fixed for hate groups and extremests, are there survivalists in town or just further out in the hills, how about Militia, what's the local music and art scene like, where do people go/what do they really do on Saturday night, anything else you feel I should know or might be helpful or fun to dump on player characters, etc. You know, the usual. Any advice that can be given would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance - ----Josh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:46:17 -0400 From: Joel_Lovell@mastercard.com Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. oops got interrupted. Also, about Fargo, rent the move fargo if you want to see it and it's cop's and etc. :) Joel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:32:55 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: DG: TED Klien In a message dated 98-06-03 19:50:12 EDT, you write: > I mean, there was the brilliant collection "Dark Gods" in *1985* and his > novel Ceremonies some time before that and then he seems to have dropped > off the radar screen entirely. > > Of course, it is *possible* that he wrote something a little to close to > the truth and incured the displeasure of certain forces.....and if so, > we're better off not knowing the details...but I'm kind of hoping he's > alive and well and writing.............somewhere.... > Ah, as I recall, he came into an inheritance about the same time he began an editorship--possibly at the New Yorker or some other very prestegious magazine. Kevin Ross has corresponded with him on occasion, so if you know his address, you might direct the question to him. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 98 09:32:56 PST From: david.sokolowski@fibre.com Subject: DG: re: DG in the UK re: Missing Radioactive materials... For a cool Cold War movie with lots of ideas for DG and espionage check out The Edge of Darkness. It's a BBC miniseries from '85 regarding the secret storage of plutonium, and i've still found it at video stores with lots of good, unusual titles (not, say, Blockbuster or Hollyweird). At one point highly radiated bodies of missing activists are washing up on a lake side. They obviously point to the reactor just up the river... My thought is having mutated bodies washing up on a lake side that's down from a highly secure plant facility. Funny that the bodies aren't radiated, though. What initially seems like a nuclear threat takes a strange, and deadly, turn as DG agents find out the bodies are infested with protoplasm, and the plant is using mutated humans instead of uranium to power the countryside... And so on, - -d. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 02:14:48 +0900 From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes) Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live > >>As mentioned, the weapons are completely realistic, and fire 6mm plastic >>pellets using either a spring or compressed gas system. Smaller weapons >>will use a CO2 charge, larger and fully-automatic weapons require an >>actual tank & feeder system. > >I hate to sound like a overprotective grandmother, but this is just a >worry-habit I picked up from paintball...couldn't one of those pop an eye? I >agree about the realistic weapons thing too, if it is a space limited thing >and you will be in public I strongly advise against using real looking >weapons. Having had a bit of experience in various types of LARPS we've >found using cards (with the stats on them) to represent weapons works well >in public. And we've played everywhere from sleazy bars to riverboat casinos. ;) Whoops, sorry. I didn't make myself clear. I think they're great for props only. They should only be fired at a person wearing the appropriate protection. Also, you're right: People around here get _very_ nervous when gaijin wander around with guns. For some reason, they have the idea that Americans are all a bunch of gun-toting maniacs. I wonder how they got that idea? Jay Doing what I can with what I've got. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 02:17:33 +0900 From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes) Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live >> On the plus side, you can by 100% authentic looking pistols that use charges >> of compressed air. You even have the full auto option. Whee! > >That's cool. I suppose that since they don't sell those here in the >states, it'd be illegal for me to, say, send you a check so you could >send me a couple. Not that you'd know, but I'm thinking somebody on >the list might. Heh, wouldn't work anyway: Japanese don't use checks, and I'd have no way of cashing one. Jay Doing what I can with what I've got. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:57:17 -0700 From: "Gerry Mckelvey" Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live > Whoops, sorry. I didn't make myself clear. I think they're great > for props only. They should only be fired at a person wearing the > appropriate protection. Also, you're right: People around here get _very_ > nervous when gaijin wander around with guns. For some reason, they have the > idea that Americans are all a bunch of gun-toting maniacs. I wonder how > they got that idea? > > Jay > Hey, I haven't shot anyone in at least an hour! My lawyer advised me to slow down...he's worried about my health... geez...drop two little nukes on someone and they never forgive you... Jerry McKelvey Exitus Acta Probat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:35:20 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Random Question On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Graeme Price should've poured himself a nice warm cup of you know what but instead wrote: > The resurrection spell is a total no-no for PCs! Don't let them get hold of > it under any circumstances as it can seriously bitch up your campaign. This is just unimaginiative gamemastering. Resurrection has always added more horror, madness and despair to my games. Ressurecting NPC's for clues will usually result in the resurrected victim being incomplete or insane thus attacking the PC's causing mega sanity loss. Ressurecting PC's usually results in them going insane or becoming possessed or being salted by antagonist sorcerers. My favorite is when they fail or critically fail in their spell roll. There was an article or letter in TUO about how failed or variant resurrections could induce Vampirism, Ghouldom and other nastyness. (House and Clan Tremere anyone?) SHOTGUN SCENARIO: A cult of weirdoes uses resurrection as an Christ-like initiation to their bizarre social club. The "Unworthy" failures and side effects serve to attract DG attention. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 98 12:45:03 -0700 From: Joseph Camp Subject: Re: DG: re: DG in the UK >For a cool Cold War movie with lots of ideas for DG and espionage check >out The Edge of Darkness. Allow me to second this recommendation, and I'm sure agent Adam will concur as he pointed it out to me in the first place. A terrific show, very cold-blooded, and features Joe Don Baker as a rogue CIA agent. In the states, it's a two-tape set (maybe 4-5 hours long) available for about $20. Adam special-ordered a copy from the local Blockbuster. be seeing you, Alphonse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:47:33 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: re: DG in the UK On Fri, 5 Jun 1998 david.sokolowski@fibre.com blathered on: > My thought is having mutated bodies washing up on a lake side that's > down from a highly secure plant facility. Funny that the bodies aren't > radiated, though. What initially seems like a nuclear threat takes a > strange, and deadly, turn as DG agents find out the bodies are infested > with protoplasm, and the plant is using mutated humans instead of > uranium to power the countryside... I ran a CthulhuPunk adventure for NERCC/TASC where a Nuclear Fusion Plant was infested by Colours. This caused a few lethal mutations and a few mutations that killed the mutated victims too :) The mutants tried to summon Azathoth but were blown up by grenade wielding PC's. This could easily be translated to DG by using a High Energy Physics Project researching Fusion, using a Particle accelerator, etc. The project could even be a front for MJ-12. Don't Forget, the mutants can absorb energy weapons fire :) NBC/CBR Warfare: I demand that someone other than myself do a writeup of this new skill. The Man in Black is : Commissioner of the NERCC, and Major League Baseball Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:47:42 -0400 From: "Alexander Beckers" Subject: RE: DG: Random Question > from Egypt and raised the guy (I forget his name) who had > contacted them in > the first place (he gets killed by the bad guys in the first session) and GM wasn't fast enough on his feet. That character, even if raised, was a raving lunatic by the time he got to NYC. - --- iamnotyourbroom iamnotyourbroom nolongermustisweepforyou FOR I AM NOT YOUR BROOM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:51:46 -0400 From: "Alexander Beckers" Subject: DG: RE: re: DG in the UK > My thought is having mutated bodies washing up on a lake side > that's down from a > highly secure plant facility. Funny that the bodies aren't That phrase, "a lake side that's down from a highly secure plant facility", just reminded me a lot of King's short story, "The Mist". Which, now that I think about it, really shows his HPL influence, almost more than his pastiche, "Jerusalem's Lot". The former's got the 1st-person narrative, unknown horrors, pseudo-cultist townies, etc. Now that I think of it, I'm surprised I never noticed it before. Potential DG scenario, more like a mini-campaign: Fungi gate goes awry and SOMEWHERE ELSE starts to create an incursion into our world. You-know-who tries to get MJ-12 to step in, the DGs are called in of course, and who knows who else? Hell, maybe it's CARCOSA, and you can bring in the Brothers of the Y-S? Hey, maybe you-know-who want MJ-12 to stop it because it's a threat? I'm getting all tingly now. - --- iamnotyourbroom iamnotyourbroom nolongermustisweepforyou FOR I AM NOT YOUR BROOM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:06:48 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: Gun-toting Jap Bashers On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Gerry Mckelvey wrote: > > idea that Americans are all a bunch of gun-toting maniacs. I wonder how > > they got that idea? Because we're all a bunch of gun-toting maniacs perhaps. To wit: > Hey, I haven't shot anyone in at least an hour! My lawyer advised me to > slow down...he's worried about my health... > > geez...drop two little nukes on someone and they never forgive you... TRUE STORY: My friend Jay Nakasone (a physicist for the State Dept of Health Radiation Branch and possible NEST team friendly) went to Los Alamos for training, visited the Trinity site, and came back with a T-shirt that had a picture of a Mushroom cloud and the caption: "Made in America, Tested in Japan" ADDITIONAL TRUE JAP BASHING: I heard this from the International Plastic Modellers Society who make displays for the Arizona Memorial: An elderly Japanese tourist couple visiting Pearl Harbor's Arizona Memorial asked a commissioned officer in the US Navy where the USS Arizona was located. With a straight face he replied: "Right where you bastards left it." Administrative action reassigned him to a less "people-intensive" post soon thereafter. EVEN MORE JAP BASHING: My mother (who hails from Sapporo Japan on the Northern Island of Hokkaido and who's maiden name is Shindo) was in a Dallas Airport during the 60's when some dumbass janitor swept a big pile of dirt and dust under her chair, much to everyone's amusement (except my mom's). That about wraps up my Jap bashing, except for Axis and Allies trash talkin'. The Man in Black is : Shogun, Greater North American Co-Prosperity Sphere Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "No, my mom did not assassinate Kennedy! Sheesh!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:20:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Juneau Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, John P. Yuda wrote: > > On the plus side, you can by 100% authentic looking pistols that use charges > > of compressed air. You even have the full auto option. Whee! > > That's cool. I suppose that since they don't sell those here in the > states, it'd be illegal for me to, say, send you a check so you could > send me a couple. Not that you'd know, but I'm thinking somebody on > the list might. Used to be legal, if it isn't anymore. I have a (now broken ) S&W Model 59 9mm, and an H&K MP5K . One the safety side, as someone brought up, it *might* damage an eye - if you fired right into it. The ones I have won't even break glass - even the the 59 was working. And yes, I'm one asking via email about price/legal-importation status. Still need that Mini-Uzi... Don ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 13:33:15 -0700 From: Duran Goodyear Subject: Re: DG: Gun-toting Jap Bashers I love America... >TRUE STORY: > >My friend Jay Nakasone (a physicist for the State Dept of Health Radiation >Branch and possible NEST team friendly) went to Los Alamos for training, >visited the Trinity site, and came back with a T-shirt that had a picture >of a Mushroom cloud and the caption: "Made in America, Tested in Japan" > >ADDITIONAL TRUE JAP BASHING: > >I heard this from the International Plastic Modellers Society who make >displays for the Arizona Memorial: An elderly Japanese tourist couple >visiting Pearl Harbor's Arizona Memorial asked a commissioned officer in >the US Navy where the USS Arizona was located. > >With a straight face he replied: "Right where you bastards left it." > >Administrative action reassigned him to a less "people-intensive" post >soon thereafter. > >EVEN MORE JAP BASHING: > >My mother (who hails from Sapporo Japan on the Northern Island of >Hokkaido and who's maiden name is Shindo) was in a Dallas Airport during >the 60's when some dumbass janitor swept a big pile of dirt and dust under >her chair, much to everyone's amusement (except my mom's). > >That about wraps up my Jap bashing, except for Axis and Allies trash >talkin'. > >The Man in Black is : Shogun, Greater North American Co-Prosperity Sphere >Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum >"No, my mom did not assassinate Kennedy! Sheesh!" > > > ____________________________ Duran Goodyear dug96@hampshire.edu IM: Dyson RS ICQ: 397119 http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~dug96 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:54:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Juneau Subject: Re: DG: RE: re: DG in the UK On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Alexander Beckers wrote: > > My thought is having mutated bodies washing up on a lake side > > that's down from a > > highly secure plant facility. Funny that the bodies aren't > > That phrase, "a lake side that's down from a highly secure plant > facility", just reminded me a lot of King's short story, "The Mist". > Which, now that I think about it, really shows his HPL influence, almost > more than his pastiche, "Jerusalem's Lot". The former's got the > 1st-person narrative, unknown horrors, pseudo-cultist townies, etc. Now > that I think of it, I'm surprised I never noticed it before. Yupyup. That's the one I "frameworked" as a scenario-design, and posted to Usenet; I think it's still around on Surge's big FTP site, last time I saw. (I really should go ahead and throw it on a webpage sometime. ) I'd been listening to the audio presentation (pretty good), and had a thought: "What would Mulder & Scully do? Bah, who cares, what would a bunch of "average" DG types do?" The Arrowhead Project. Soldiers willing to suicide when they find out that _it_ might be *loose*. And a carload of investigators hitting the store for munchies along the way. "Where's my shotgun?!?" "In the trunk - what, you need it to by Cheesy-Poofs?" "" "You want to go get it? " "" I've got various bits and pieces of an Arrowhead campaign in mind, but I've not yet found a nice common-thread to tie it all together. Don ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:24:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: RE: re: DG in the UK On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Don Juneau didn't drink the damn cup!: > I've got various bits and pieces of an Arrowhead campaign in mind, but > I've not yet found a nice common-thread to tie it all together. Didn't I see the Arrowheads on the GIJOE RPG mailing list? The Man in Black is : Col. Patriot, United States Battlesuit Corps Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "COBRA! Retreat! Fall Back! ReGroup!" - Cobra Commander ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:28:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Gun-toting Jap Bashers On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Duran Goodyear wrote: > I love America... Hey, I love Kusai Gaijin just as much as the next Shogun :) But seriously, most Japanese are probably more racist than us "Real Americans" anyway. The Man in Black is : Shogun, Greater North American Co-Prosperity Sphere Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "He's a Vampire! Burn 'em!" - Sadistic Mayor "But it's daytime." - Ignorant Peasant ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 98 14:36:45 PST From: david.sokolowski@fibre.com Subject: DG: a look at cults... two web sites of interest by their cult content: http://www.fadetoblack.com/bestcult/index.html is one of the funniest stunts regarding cults i've ever seen. wish *i'd* thought of it. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/time-behar.html has the 1991 Time magazine story on Scientology. pretty scary, even for reality. just imagine if Hubbard were a minion of Cthulhu or Shub-Niggurath... and so on, - -d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:11:53 EDT From: CroakerJr@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Random Question In a message dated 98-06-05 11:31:56 EDT, you write: << The resurrection spell is a total no-no for PCs! Don't let them get hold of it under any circumstances as it can seriously bitch up your campaign. In one Masks campaign I am aware of, the keeper (foolishly) allowed the investigators to get hold of said spell. >> To echo MiB, as Keeper you can do a LOT of damage to players just by using the things that they get cocky about. Why should Resurrection work properly just because the players grabbed the spell book and made their INT x 3 rolls? After all, this is Call of Cthulhu. You're the Keeper. Never, ever play fair! SCATTERGUN SCENARIO: MiB's Abortionist 2 is using Resurrection on the late- termers who come through her clinic, collecting them for sale on the black market/storage for future human sacrifice/gifts to the changeling-lovin' ghouls/Just For Insane Kicks/Insert nefarious goal here... Shane Ivey http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6580/dg.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:24:30 EDT From: CroakerJr@aol.com Subject: DG: psycho(kinesis) Here's some interesting stuff I found that maybe relates to a scenario I wanna write sometime in the future... "This month's gathering of 1,000-plus attendees at a respected "consciousness" conference in Tucson, Ariz., the impending release of a commercial mind-matter device, and increasing commercial and government interest in a technical Web project focused on building a "conscious chip" are all indications the hard- to-believe convergence of psychokinesis (known to physicists as "psi") and quantum-physics research is moving into the traditional empirical science and engineering space." The full story is at http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980515S0018, including some DG-juicy bits about the implications of psychokinesis in communications security and Air Force fighters. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Josh Shaw wrote: > I'm currently running a cross-over DG/CoC campaign. Cross over in the > sense that the players have no idea that they're in a DG campaign, tho [portion redacted] > The fundamentalist preacher and the carear crimanal who round out the > party are clearly not suitable canidates for recruitment, even as > "friendlies". Career criminals work with Law Enforcement and Espionage types regularly. It's part of the whole "Shadowy Underworld" thing. Your criminal could easily be pressured into serving as an informant/investigator. Cops and DA's do this "Plea Bargaining" all the time. Remember, no one said he had to be a *willing* friendly. TRUE STORY: Two guys were fighting, one had robbed the other. Cops break it up. Next week they show up at the same place. #1 cop tells them that if there's ANY fighting at the location - he, and all the other cops will beat the shit out of both of them. Essentially he made them into his own private security, forcing them into informing the cops if any fighting was going on. I swear I was LOL when he told me about it :) CIA Case Officers never pass up an opportunity to recruit foriegn nationals, it's called "Espionage" :) If Delta Green actively recruits him, your professor type better watch out for the Intelligence Service of his own country. Just hangin' around spooky USAF Officers is bad enough. Yes, that means he has to do what DG says or gets tried for Treason back home. HAR! HAR! Fundamentalist Preacher, BLEAH! Why did you allow such a character? Next the players will be wanting Lawyer, Politician, and Game Designer characters. A bunch of bottom-feeding scum. Kill the Hon. Rev. post his Obit to the list, and have that player make a *real* character, one that has big guns :) > At any rate, for reasons I won't go into at the moment, it seemed logical > to set the campaign in Fargo North Dakota. There was a movie called FARGO. Won best picture in the Oscars. See it if you haven't already. I like the scene where the psycho guy is putting a leg into the wood chipper, it's done so tastefully :) The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:29:51 EDT From: CroakerJr@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. << The trouble is that I know *NOTHING* about Fargo, or for that matter the entire state of North Dakota. Never been there, never even passed through there. >> Unless we do have a North Dakota expert on the list, I'd say just hit the libraries and hit them hard. Librarians are your friends. You also can probably find a reference work listing domestic military bases, which will tell you which ones are in the vicinity, who's stationed there, and what they are tasked for. (Then you can possibly find more on those bases on the Web.) Look for DOJ statistics as well, like the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, to get a sense of local criminal justice issues. You can find all kinds of tidbits like that at www.fedstats.gov, as well as in the library. Good luck! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:56:33 -0700 From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. ><< The trouble is that I know *NOTHING* about Fargo, or for that > matter the entire state of North Dakota. Never been there, never even > passed through there. >> > On the non-governmental/military side your best reference for just general information about North Dakota ( and most states / cities i have found ) is heading to your local AAA ( Americal Automobile Association ) office and forking over the ten or so dollars it will cost to get travel guides, maps, etc of the area. Then you will have some real world info about the location outside of just military bases so if your players ever do visit North Dakota they can go shopping in that mall that they had a shoot-out with those zombies in. - - a - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:55:51 -0700 From: Stephen Parks Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. The Man in Black wrote: > Career criminals work with Law Enforcement and Espionage types regularly. > It's part of the whole "Shadowy Underworld" thing. Your criminal could > easily be pressured into serving as an informant/investigator. Cops and > DA's do this "Plea Bargaining" all the time. Remember, no one said he had > to be a *willing* friendly. Not to mention the old school Nikita trick. > Fundamentalist Preacher, BLEAH! Why did you allow such a character? Next > the players will be wanting Lawyer, Politician, and Game Designer > characters. A bunch of bottom-feeding scum. Kill the Hon. Rev. post his > Obit to the list, and have that player make a *real* character, one that > has big guns :) Hey, fundamentalist preachers aren't necessarily that far from being cultists; he might have a keen interest in big guns. Stephen. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:31:34 EDT From: theherald@juno.com (Michael Layne) Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. On Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:45:43 -0400 Joel_Lovell@mastercard.com writes: >Well one thing is that Fargo is very cold. Also, it's got an Air >Force >Base. :) My uncle was a navigator for an F-4 squadron a decade or two >ago. > That would be Minot AFB (probably the coldest USAF installation in the CONUS). I'm not sure which units are tenant now, but it was SAC and ADC in 1970 or so... Michael theherald@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 19:36:47 -0600 From: Eric Brochu Subject: Re: DG: GM Assitance Needed. At 06:26 PM 05/06/98 -0400, you wrote: >Fundamentalist Preacher, BLEAH! Why did you allow such a character? Next >the players will be wanting Lawyer, Politician, and Game Designer >characters. A bunch of bottom-feeding scum. Kill the Hon. Rev. post his >Obit to the list, and have that player make a *real* character, one that >has big guns :) Considering some of the fundie preachers I've heard, the two ain't exactly mutually exclusive. I remember seeing a documentary once (Atomic Cafe, maybe?) with a preacher shouting "GOD wants AMERICA to have NUCLEAR WEAPONS" to a huge crowd of glassy-eyed zombies. There but for the grace of "Bob"... And let's not forget the words of a certain New Zealand clergyman: "I kick ASS for the LORD!" >> At any rate, for reasons I won't go into at the moment, it seemed logical >> to set the campaign in Fargo North Dakota. > >There was a movie called FARGO. Won best picture in the Oscars. Nope. Nominated, should have won, didn't. 'Bout par for the course at the Academy. It won Best Original Screenplay and Best Actress, IIRC. >See it if >you haven't already. I like the scene where the psycho guy is putting a >leg into the wood chipper, it's done so tastefully :) It is indeed pretty cool, though only a few minutes of it actually take place in Fargo, ND. >The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins >Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Semper Fugit : Tempus Fi - - Eric. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:51:46 -1000 From: "M-Zodiac" Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live Actually, I was part of Illuminatus' Airsoft Group, and the way our people got the guns in the US was filing International Reply Coupons. Only had one problem, when a box of 2,000 pellets was slashed open by Customs looking for drugs. Whatta mess. - -Marc "Know this. Elric cannot have what he desires most. What he desires does not exist. What he desires is dead. All Elric has is sorrow, guilt, malice, hatred. This is all he deserves and all he will ever desire." -Moorcock, "The Vanishing Tower" - -----Original Message----- From: Jay and Mikiko Noyes To: Delta Green List Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 7:24 AM Subject: Re: DG: Cthulhu Live >>> On the plus side, you can by 100% authentic looking pistols that use charges >>> of compressed air. You even have the full auto option. Whee! >> >>That's cool. I suppose that since they don't sell those here in the >>states, it'd be illegal for me to, say, send you a check so you could >>send me a couple. Not that you'd know, but I'm thinking somebody on >>the list might. > > > Heh, wouldn't work anyway: Japanese don't use checks, and I'd have >no way of cashing one. > >Jay > >Doing what I can with what I've got. > ------------------------------ End of deltagreen-digest V1 #34 *******************************