From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V1 #41 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Monday, June 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 041 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:51:28 -0400 From: Daniel Harms Subject: DG: Year 2000 Bug For those who have campaigns set in the near future, here's a story on Senate hearings about the Year 2000 bug. Some pretty scary stuff, if rumors are true, and (in game terms) a lot of havoc could be wreaked at this time: http://www.msnbc.com/news/172557.asp Daniel Harms dmharms@acsu.buffalo.edu "Wool is wool. Wool is a pack of lies." -- Richard S. Shaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:50:34 EDT From: Imandos@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Mr. Squick, SICKENING! Escutcheon@aol.com wrote about Mib posting: >it is the second most revolting bit of prose I have ever >seen. The first would obviously be Henry James' "The Ambassadors". A book that requires multiple sanity checks to read. Thomas Woodall Imandos@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:18:12 -0400 From: Steven Kaye Subject: Re: DG: Re: Black Man With a Horn Olly wrote: >Read it just the other day in NEW TALES OF THE CTHULHU >MYTHOS (the one with the introduction by Ramsey Campbell). >Excellent anthology all round, by the way...I'm toying with >the idea of adapting David Drake's "Than Curse The >Darkness" to DG. > Isn't it already in the rulebook (admittedly, not as a scenario)? Steven - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Kaye box_nine@ix.NOSPAM.netcom.com "Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." -- Satchell Paige ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:51:35 -0700 From: "Gerry Mckelvey" Subject: DG: Re: Year 2000 Bug > For those who have campaigns set in the near future, here's a story > on Senate hearings about the Year 2000 bug. Some pretty scary stuff, > if rumors are true, and (in game terms) a lot of havoc could be wreaked > at this time: Yep, Y2K problems are fairly endemic in the IS community at this time...but we are working on fixing the problem...I don't think the government is doing a very good job at this thing...they're gonna have to get *gasp* EFFICIENT if they expect to get paid after year 2000. I understand the IRS is one of the big offenders too...my my, what ever will we do without them? Odd that this should come up now...I'm off to a Y2K test for my company this week....they're watching me! thier watching me! boy, that's gotta be boring... Jerry McKelvey Exitus Acta Probat. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:23:20 +0900 From: "David Farnell" Subject: RE: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals - -----Original Message----- ·ol : Graeme Price ˆΆζ : Delta Green List “ϊŽž : 1998”N6ŒŽ15“ϊ 6:04 Œ–Ό : Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals (SOMEWHAT SICKENING) Graeme Price (and Phil Posehn and R. Menzi (perhaps others by now)) was kind enough to repond: >So physically, the agent will be out for 6-10 weeks (minimum) and will be >seeing a speech therapist for the next 10-15 years or more. All in all, it >could have been much worse. But I do agree with Ricardo, why would he WANT >to go back to work for DG? I think there comes a time when any agent who >gets mangled badly (physically or mentally) enough should go onto the >"retired" roster (note: this may not be his choice) and act as an >occasional consultant. > >In fact, just think of the kudos you would get when using this character as >an instructor for a group of new agents: "Thow, I geth you guyths want to >know juth how I lotht my eyebrowth and my thongue?". Arigato, gentlemen. Yeah, I figured about as much. Actually, this was an NPC, but he was becoming the love-interest of one of the PCs, so it was rather important to her to know his eventual fate. (And to know what their next date will be like--brrr.) The perp in this case was a particularly sadistic, playful Byakhee, who managed, over the course of the adventure, to "count coup" against most of the characters, this one (Special Agent Jerry Smalls, formerly LINUS) most drastically. Good to know he won't need the eyedropper thingies. I think it's safe to say that any SAN damage he took from reading The King in Yellow was, um, overwhelmed by subsequent events. ("He seems to be suffering from terrible ennui, doctor." "Gee, I wonder why.") Take care all, David Farnell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:54:44 -1000 From: "M-Zodiac" Subject: Re: DG: Mr. Squick, SICKENING! - -----Original Message----- From: Olly To: Delta Green List Date: Sunday, June 14, 1998 8:53 AM Subject: Re: DG: Mr. Squick, SICKENING! > >On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 01:23:27 EDT Escutcheon@aol.com wrote: > >> MiB, I am amazed. That is definitely the single most nauseating post I have >> ever encountered. > >>it is the second most revolting bit of prose I have ever >>seen. > >OhmyGOD......you mean there's WORSE?...what can be the MOST >revolting bit of prose you've ever seen? > >My money's on "American Psycho" or "The End of Alice"... > >[vomits copiously into Mi-Go brain canister] > > >Olly L-Ron? BTW, Saw a remaindered piece that read Hubbard: Villany Victorious. Almost got it, until I found out it was fiction. Thought it was a biography. - -Marc "Know this. Elric cannot have what he desires most. What he desires does not exist. What he desires is dead. All Elric has is sorrow, guilt, malice, hatred. This is all he deserves and all he will ever desire." -Moorcock, "The Vanishing Tower" > >"The horror, the horror" >---------------------- >Tinkerbell >ods196@soton.ac.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:58:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Womack Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals (SOMEWHAT SICKENING) Others have already weighed in with their opinions, but I thought I'd pass along a RL anecdote that might be of some limited interest to somebody pondering the fate of an agent who's had to have a big chunk of his bowels resected. My wife and I have this cat who, when he was a kitten, came across a big ball of thread scraps from a cross-stitching project of my wife's. Stupid little bugger ate it, and the thread looped all through his intestines, quite literally tying them in knots. The veterinary surgeon had to remove over a foot and a half of the kitten's intestines (basically the bulk of his small intestine!) in the process of cutting all the string free. (There was even a loop of the string running all the way up the cat's esophagus, hooked under his tongue.) The cat survived, not too much the worse for wear, although as you might imagine his digestive system hasn't been the same since. With that much of his intestine gone, he really doesn't digest food very efficiently at all; he's got a voracious appetite, has to eat a special diet (he's already succumbed to a rare form of crystal accretion in his bladder/ urinary tract normally only seen in much older cats), and has gotten quite flabby as a result. I won't elaborate on the god-awful messes he leaves in his litterbox (suffice it to say nothing has time to, ah, re-solidify before evacuation). So based solely on this experience, and with no actual medical knowledge to share, I'd say that an agent whose intestines were used to make a macrame sculpture needn't be forced into early retirement, but he *will* suffer adversely probably for the rest of his life, having special dietary requirements, possibly having difficulty keeping weight off (or on), and perhaps even being susceptible to calls of nature that would render him unable to perform effectively in the field. Okay, I've followed this train of thought a little too far; I'm getting off now. Chris Womack Keeper of the List oaktree@nocturne.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 20:22:19 -0700 From: paposehn@juno.com (Phil A Posehn) Subject: DG: More MJ12 Activity?? The following is an excerpt of the transcript from Apollo 12: MISSION CONTROL: An ancient legend says that a beautiful Chinese girl named Chango has been living on the moon for 4000 years...You might look for her companion, a large Chinese rabbit... MICHAEL COLLINS: We'll keep a close eye for that bunny girl. It should be remembered that all of the astronauts on the moon exhibited a conspicuous hopping behavior...Just a coincidence?? I think not!! I must admit to having stolen this from Robert Anton Wilson. Phil. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:38:24 -0700 From: John Michael Alldredge Subject: Re: DG: Test At 12:25 AM 6/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >I'm having problems with my e-mail account. Is anyone receiving this? > > > >Ricardo J. Mιndez >rmendez@geocities.com >PGP Fingerprint: 8D9A 2B53 5631 4594 DE6D 69DF 3DCA 37E0 C27A 4EAB > >yes i am receiving. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:47:29 -0700 From: John Michael Alldredge Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals (SOMEWHAT SICKENING) At 06:16 PM 6/14/98 +0900, you wrote: >OK, this is one for the more medically-minded folks out there. This happened >to one of my agents recently, and I want to know what can be done to help >him. > >Let's say a DG agent is sitting in his cheap hotel room in Brownsville, TX, >getting in a little light reading (_Le roi en jaun_, the only surviving >original French version of _The King in Yellow_), when he hears a light >knock at the door. He goes to open it... > > > > >(HERE COMES THE SICKENING PART) > > > > > > > >He's found about 30 minutes later, crucified to the hotel room wall, his >tongue cut out (it's found lying under the pillow), his eyelids sliced off >(nowhere to be found), and his intestines pulled out through a little slit >in his navel, twisted into an intricate pattern of knots that disturbingly >seem to MEAN SOMETHING, but which also may just be some alien ballon-animal >trick. > >The poor bastard survived and is now in a hospital somewhere. I assume his >tongue can be reattached, but will it regain full functionality? Since >whatever it was kept the eyelids (maybe ate them), how's he going to deal >with that? Can they be reconstructed from other parts, or is he going to go >through life with a very surprised expression and a pair of auto-eyedroppers >mounted on his eyebrows? I figured he'd lose several feet of intestine; is >that likely? And what are the long-term effects? > >Is this guy going to be able to return to life as an active agent of Delta >Green and the FBI? > >Peace, >David Farnell > re: the tongue. 30 minutes is not so long for muscle tissue, particularly if the hotel room was air-conditioned. No problems there if the get him to a hospitalright away.... re: the eyelids. Trickier, but with skin grafts (probably from the fingertips) and a good reconstructive surgeon, the agent should be able to function and even look fairly normal after recuperation. re: losing a few feet of gut. No problem. Happens all the time. re: the question you haven't asked. Will he be able to resume the duties of a DG agent? That depends on what he saw and experienced in those 30 minutes. When he wakes up in the hospital, what will his state of MIND be... the psychotherapy could take much longer than the physical recuperation.... i hope this helps. be seeing you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:51:36 -0700 From: John Michael Alldredge Subject: Re: DG: Re: Black Man With a Horn At 07:15 PM 6/14/98 +0100, you wrote: > >On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:47:14 EDT WinningerR@aol.com wrote: > >> >>>"Black Man With a Horn", a novella by T.E.D. Klein. It's available in >> Klein's collection DARK GODS, and I believe it's also in some other >> anthologies--perhaps someone else knows which ones. > >Read it just the other day in NEW TALES OF THE CTHULHU >MYTHOS (the one with the introduction by Ramsey Campbell). >Excellent anthology all round, by the way...I'm toying with >the idea of adapting David Drake's "Than Curse The >Darkness" to DG. > >Olly > >"The horror, the horror" >---------------------- >Wise Blood >ods196@soton.ac.uk > >"Black Man With A Horn" is also in the anthology "Cthulhu 2000" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:48:45 +0900 From: "David Farnell" Subject: RE: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats - -----Original Message----- ·ol : Chris Womack ˆΆζ : Delta Green List “ϊŽž : 1998”N6ŒŽ15“ϊ 12:18 Œ–Ό : Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals (SOMEWHAT SICKENING) Chris Womack wrote: >My wife and I have this cat who, when he was a kitten, came across a big >ball of thread scraps from a cross-stitching project of my wife's. Stupid >little bugger ate it, and the thread looped all through his intestines, >quite literally tying them in knots. The veterinary surgeon had to remove >over a foot and a half of the kitten's intestines (basically the bulk of >his small intestine!) in the process of cutting all the string free. >(There was even a loop of the string running all the way up the cat's >esophagus, hooked under his tongue.) Amazing synchronicity, Chris. My brother's cat had the same experience, only it was an entire box of dental floss (hurts to even think of it). He had trouble keeping weight ON, so he was an extremely skinny critter the rest of his (still continuing, and he's old) life. Otherwise, it was the same, only he always seemed dull and listless, except when under the influence of catnip. (I always thought it was due to being over-anesthetized, but now that I think of it, that sounds like the aftereffects of reading The King in Yellow! Of course, in a Lovecraftian universe, cats can read.) I have been told that cats can only make food go one way in their esophagi--once they start swallowing something, they can't stop. (Then again, they seem to barf with little trouble.) That sounds like an interesting little quirk to give a CoC creature. Be seeing you, David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:19:25 -0400 From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr." Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats > I have been told that cats can only make food go one way in their > esophagi--once they start swallowing something, they can't stop. (Then > again, they seem to barf with little trouble.) That sounds like an > interesting little quirk to give a CoC creature. As I recall, snakes, constrictors specifically, have that same little quirk. I also recall that the gastropods from the War against the Chtorr series (by David Gerrold) had the same quirk, but they were a heck of a lot nastier (and worth looking into for a sheer killing machine-type beastie). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:50:46 -0400 From: Viktor Haag Subject: DG: PGP Public Key - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I received a number of requests for my PGP public key from folks who couldn't find the key on a PGP server. I haven't got the key on a server yet as we're behind a firewall here at work, and the automatic process doesn't work. At any rate, those interested can find my public key on my geo-web-page at http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/4905/ I plan to have other DG stuff there as well: more and more as my campaign gets rolling. Agent Eduard (Viktor Haag) - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNYUnMSrplIwlWTDJEQLvaACg2z8uhYQnIIVa9g9nB+pXqM1gJnAAn1KU s7m0FLi0Iy0qqkKDp70RPTxn =OjpA - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:35:46 -0400 From: "R. Menzi" Subject: DG: gag/vomit reflex - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The topic of one way digestive tracks has come up. If a animal can vomit, its stomache goes both ways, so cats are out of the catergory. Birds, however, are in; birds can be made to explode with Alkaseltser (sp?) tablets because the have no way to release the fast growing pressure. (Knew a kid in 2nd grade who had a some pretty sick passtimes.) Also, according to _DG:_Alien_Inteligence_, ghouls (at least the DG ghoul-lady) lack a gag reflex and the ability to vomit. (This may be to let the converts avoid regurgitation everytime they try to eat their more rancid meals.) Regards, <<>> - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNYSknqhFxkX3nANTEQIOJgCfSzmg73MFCUK480npr0QpXUPazeYAoNby Vw0GClXM1UIe9VYFKEzbaUiN =orSQ - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:14:09 -0400 From: "Eric Brennan" Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats I don't know...I played in a Chtorr game once and it really blew. But maybe that was just the GM. ;) A neat form of digestion to look into (and I don't know the name, so any gastro-zooologists feel free to chime in) is what I believe spiders do...turning the insides of the creature to mush and draining out the yummy fluid, leaving behind just a sagging skin suit and some bones. With some nice fiva beans and a chianti... Them's good eatin'. Agent Walter (INSCOM) aka Eric - -----Original Message----- From: Jimmie Bise, Jr. To: Delta Green List Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 9:24 AM Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats >As I recall, snakes, constrictors specifically, have that same little >quirk. I also recall that the gastropods from the War against the Chtorr >series (by David Gerrold) had the same quirk, but they were a heck of a lot >nastier (and worth looking into for a sheer killing machine-type beastie). > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:34:25 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: gag/vomit reflex In a message dated 98-06-15 10:13:15 EDT, you write: > > The topic of one way digestive tracks has come up. If a animal can > vomit, its stomache goes both ways, so cats are out of the catergory. > Birds, however, are in; birds can be made to explode with Alkaseltser > (sp?) tablets because the have no way to release the fast growing > pressure. (Knew a kid in 2nd grade who had a some pretty sick > passtimes.) > > Also, according to _DG:_Alien_Inteligence_, ghouls (at least the DG > ghoul-lady) lack a gag reflex and the ability to vomit. (This may be > to let the converts avoid regurgitation everytime they try to eat > their more rancid meals.) Ok,does anyone else see the connectionand the anti-ghul measure here? Just hide a dozen alka-selzer tablets in a corpse.... The Laughing Priest! Delta Green Friendly... Really! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:57:42 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: Re: DG: gag/vomit reflex >The laughing priest (amongst others) wrote: > >> Also, according to _DG:_Alien_Inteligence_, ghouls (at least the DG >> ghoul-lady) lack a gag reflex and the ability to vomit. (This may be >> to let the converts avoid regurgitation everytime they try to eat >> their more rancid meals.) > Ok,does anyone else see the connection and the anti-ghul measure here? >Just hide a dozen alka-selzer tablets in a corpse.... Nah, won't work. You'd just end up having a ghoul with a really bad case of flatulence... and those guys smell bad enough at the best of times! Interestingly, one reason why ghouls may lack the vomit reflex is that I recall reading (not sure of my sources on this) that the presence of large quantities of raw blood in the stomach induces vomiting (the result of this is called "coffee ground vomit", because it looks like coffee grounds - I am not making this up!). Cheers Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:58:42 From: Davide Mana Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats Greetings! First of all, thanks to David Farnell for his original message: one of my players is due for the "eyelids/tongue/intestines" bit tomorrow evening; not that he knows, of course: teaches the guy to play the smartass and so doing sinking my latest campaign after just four sessions. Maybe I'll let you know if he works a way to handle the whole thing (he _has_ lots of smart ideas, right? Right!!) On to a somewhat different topic, now. Agent Walker (INSCOM) wrote > A neat form of digestion to look into (and I don't know the name, so any >gastro-zooologists feel free to chime in) is what I believe spiders >do...turning the insides of the creature to mush and draining out the yummy >fluid, leaving behind just a sagging skin suit and some bones. With some >nice fiva beans and a chianti... Them's good eatin'. While you are looking into the above, you might like to check out the Lepidoptera of the Icneumonida group (a kind of wasp); this nasty little brutes place their eggs inside of a "host", that ends up being eaten alive, _from the inside_, by the growing critters. And if this looks a too much like "Alien", let me add a last nasty bit: this insects are adapted so that the larvae go first for the less criticl bits, eating up the host all right, but keeping it alive as long as possible. Creepy. And this is it. Take care!! Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@iol.it ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 01:09:52 +0900 From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes) Subject: DG: Uttati Asfet spoiler - ---spoiler--- - ---spoiler--- - ---spoiler--- Agent Victor was assigned to a group of grant recipients to evaluate their potential as DG friendlies in an effort to obtain their scholastic expertise for the organization. The investigation of events in Tonga ended with no fatalities and Agent Victor's cover intact, although the party had to escape from the island resort by a stolen boat and required marine safety assistance to reach land safely. With some manipulation, Agent Victor managed to keep the group together to investigate events in New Orleans. Extensive hacking and at least one instance of B&E led the investigators to Legoullan shipping and uncovered that companies cult membership and illegal arms sales. This is where things began to go wrong. The group, forgetting their primarily ivory tower origins and the fact that cultists in the 90s are likely to be armed with something decidedly more effective than sacrificial daggers, unwisely decided to assualt a warehouse directly. A storage place for illegal weaponry, the warehouse burned to the ground, but not before three of the five investigators were gunned down. It is this game master's fervent wish that all DG agents keep in mind that guns don't kill people, it's those little hard things they throw at you that kill people. Guns and cultists are _dangerous_. Jay Gibber gibber, squeak squeak ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:33:18 -0400 From: "Elliot A. Rushing" Subject: Re: DG: Cell Assignments Chris Womack (Howdy, Chris!) wrote: >Having done some thinking on this subject (both when it was first broached >and in the intervening time until Deputy Rushing recently reintroduced >it), I've come to the conclusion that the safest blanket statement that >can be made regarding cell assignments on this list is as follows: with >the exception of posts from Alphonse, any post to this list purporting to >originate from, describe, or otherwise concern a DG cell should be treated >as non-canonical--Keepers have the option, to be freely exercised (or not) >on a case-by-case basis, to incorporate such information into their >campaigns however they see fit. In short, to borrow Robbie's mantra from >the Ars Magica discussion list, "whatever works for your campaign is >right." [snip] Amen, Brother. :) In fact, there are excellent points throughout Chris' note. I'm hard pressed to disagree with any of them. After digesting Chris' note, I would like to clarify(perhaps modify) my initial offering, though. The concept of alphanumeric numberings to permit multiple cells of the same letter classification is intended as a fudge, a fiction -- certainly non-canonical -- to allow those Keepers willing to post items specific to their cells on the website for general use -- or willing to communicate in character with other cells -- to create, promulgate, and communicate using their own actual cells (of whatever letter) without worrying about offending some prior-posting Keeper, directly (rare) or indirectly (unfortunately, possibly common, especially among gamers ;) ). As Chris noted, internet resources are simply that -- resources, and I certainly have no fascist or conformist intent in suggesting this idea. The extra numbers could be considered verbiage, encryption prefixes, whatever -- the intent of the design is to enable *Keepers* to keep everyone straight ("Wait, is that Elliot's K cell, or Eddie's?"). If a poster used a number (e.g., K-11, K-2) consistently, it would help resolve continuity/identification problems for *Keepers*. What players experience is up to the individual Keeper, and I like Chris' "same-letter cells from differing eras" idea very much. Of course, when all is said and done, for any reasonable point I can offer here, there is an equally reasonable counterpoint. This is an area in which reasonable folks can differ. DG itself is an amazing work, and I'm sure most if not all of the folks on the list want to preserve as much of creators' intent as possible. If that means using number suffixes or not using number suffixes, so be it. It's not a big deal. ;) I think it's great, actually, that a roleplaying game can spawn an atmosphere of reasoned debate -- about conspiracies! ;) My parting shot is that an appended numeral can be simply ignored by others, perhaps almost everyone -- but to the Keepers trying to sort through 10 P-cells, that small appendage could make all the difference -- and would allow those 10 P-cell Keepers some separate identity for their creations on the internet, which would encourage them to post, instead of saying "Oh, well, there's already an Agent PAUL, I guess I shouldn't post." More folks posting means more nifty NPCs, histories, and scenarios, and I'm all for that -- what a potential time saver. :) However, if adding numbers kills the suspense, or makes the conspiracy too big, or cancels out the mystery, then perhaps it is a bad idea after all. Whatever the case, I'm enjoying the game, the list, and the discussion. ;) Thanks for reading. Elliot. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:48:58 -0400 From: "Eric Brennan" Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats I was watching the movie "Phoenix" the other day, and Giancarlo Esposito's character, to demonstrate the idea that loansharks are part of the natural order, talked about a worm that will infect a crab's reproductive system. It then somehow manages to use the crab's reproductive system to make offspring. This can go on forever... So think about a Cthulu beastie that is just a nasty little sperm cell type critter...that then infects other sperm cells in a fellow's cajones, turning the host's body into just one big manufacturing plant. The sperm then infects eggs. Then the eggs get born... Hmm. That _is_ nasty... Agent Walter aka Eric Brennan - -----Original Message----- From: Davide Mana To: Delta Green List Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 12:04 PM Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats >While you are looking into the above, you might like to check out the >Lepidoptera of the Icneumonida group (a kind of wasp); this nasty little >brutes place their eggs inside of a "host", that ends up being eaten alive, >_from the inside_, by the growing critters. >And if this looks a too much like "Alien", let me add a last nasty bit: >this insects are adapted so that the larvae go first for the less criticl >bits, eating up the host all right, but keeping it alive as long as possible. >Creepy. > >And this is it. >Take care!! > > Davide Mana > Torino, Italy > doctor.dee@iol.it > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:50:50 -0400 From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr." Subject: DG: New Cell Formation I would like to announce the formation of a new cell that will begin operation in the Washington, DC area. This cell will be designated "Cell W" and will consist of three DG agents and may encompass the passing involvement of at least one DG friendly. At present, the members of Cell W are: Peter Cook - Agent WILSON - Agent WILSON is 33 years of age and is an experienced scientist with the Environmental Agency. Agent WILSON holds a BS degree in Biochemistry from Georgetown University and a MS degree in Genetics from Johns Hopkins University. Bernard Logan - Agent WALLACE - - Agent WALLACE is 31 years of age and has spent the last five years with INSCOM after being stationed at the US Army's Fort George Meade for six years. Agent WALLACE holds a AA degree in Psychology from the University of California at Berkely and is a combat veteran, having served in both Iraq and the former Yugoslavia. Dr. Chaney Daniels - Agent WENDY - - Agent WENDY is 35 years of age and has served the last six years with the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a Special Agent. Prior to that, she served as a detective with the Philadelphia PA Police Department. Agent WENDY holds a BS degree in Criminal Justice from Temple University, a MS degree in Psychology from Catholic University, and a Doctorate's degree in Criminal Psychology from American University. This will be the first foray into full DG investigations, though each agent has had several experiences with DG as friendlies. I will provide more information on their progress as the investigations allow. Alphonse, please feel free to forward this information to the Web Site for perusal by other Agents and COs. Also, let me know should you wish additional personal or professional information regarding this Cell. - -Jim, CO - Cell W ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:27:01 -0400 From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr." Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats > Greetings! > > First of all, thanks to David Farnell for his original message: one of my > players is due for the "eyelids/tongue/intestines" bit tomorrow evening; > not that he knows, of course: teaches the guy to play the smartass and so > doing sinking my latest campaign after just four sessions. > Maybe I'll let you know if he works a way to handle the whole thing (he > _has_ lots of smart ideas, right? Right!!) I'm going to save that one for my own intrepid band of agents, too, I think. > > On to a somewhat different topic, now. > Agent Walker (INSCOM) wrote > > > A neat form of digestion to look into (and I don't know the name, so any > >gastro-zooologists feel free to chime in) is what I believe spiders > >do...turning the insides of the creature to mush and draining out the yummy > >fluid, leaving behind just a sagging skin suit and some bones. With some > >nice fiva beans and a chianti... Them's good eatin'. > > While you are looking into the above, you might like to check out the > Lepidoptera of the Icneumonida group (a kind of wasp); this nasty little > brutes place their eggs inside of a "host", that ends up being eaten alive, > _from the inside_, by the growing critters. > And if this looks a too much like "Alien", let me add a last nasty bit: > this insects are adapted so that the larvae go first for the less criticl > bits, eating up the host all right, but keeping it alive as long as possible. > Creepy. Okay, this has promise as well, especially for those smart-aleck agents from the newly-created Cell W who love giving their CO a hard time. - -Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:33:36 -0400 From: "John C. Detwiler" Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats Just as interesting as spider digestion is starfish digestion. Starfish apparently insert their stomach into their prey and digest them from the inside. Something big enough to do that to a human would leave some interesting evidence. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:37:41 -0400 From: "Eric Brennan" Subject: DG: Re: New Cell Formation - -----Original Message----- From: Jimmie Bise, Jr. To: deltagreen@nocturne.org Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 12:56 PM Subject: DG: New Cell Formation >I would like to announce the formation of a new cell that will begin >operation in the Washington, DC area. This cell will be designated "Cell W" >and will consist of three DG agents and may encompass the passing >involvement of at least one DG friendly. At present, the members of Cell W >are: >Bernard Logan - Agent WALLACE >- Agent WALLACE is 31 years of age and has spent the last five years with >INSCOM after being stationed at the US Army's Fort George Meade for six >years. Agent WALLACE holds a AA degree in Psychology from the University of >California at Berkely and is a combat veteran, having served in both Iraq >and the former Yugoslavia. I'm WALLACE? I thought I was WALTER! Man, this code-name-based-on-real-name stuff is for the birds. In Shadowrun I'd be "Quickdeath" or "Rapidly Deteriorating Colon" or something cool and easy to remember. And Cell W? Doesn't that mean _everybody_ is higher up than us? (Except those schmucks in Y and Z cells. What about Cell X? There is no Cell X. Those schmucks at Fox TV ruined it for everybody. And what the hell do you call the guys in Z? Zed, Zach and _what_?) Has anyone thought of a plot where Delta Green agents go rogue and begin killing fellow DG agents higher up the pecking order just to get cooler names? Agent WALTER, I mean, WALLACE (INSCOM) aka Eric Brennan PS: Just kidding, Jim. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 98 10:43:24 PST From: david.sokolowski@fibre.com Subject: Re[2]: DG: Cell Assignments Does this mean everyone in A Cell has a hole in his head? Has someone been taking the trephenation discussion too seriously? Or is this more of a statement on DG's upper ranks? and so on, - -d. > Of course, everyone stays out of Cell A, unless >you want a hole in the head. >David Farnell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:09:33 -0400 From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr." Subject: Re: DG: Eyelids and balloon animals and cats > Just as interesting as spider digestion is starfish digestion. Starfish > apparently insert their stomach into their prey and digest them from the > inside. Something big enough to do that to a human would leave some > interesting evidence. And just a quick aside to the lack of regurgitation. One of the reasons some snakes (and the fictional Chtorran worms) can't stop swallowing their prey is because their fangs, or teeth, or what have you, and turned toward their throats, preventing anything solid from coming back up. Try that, and the teeth stop it. I also recall something about Spiders from Leng in Lovecraftian works, whcih work about like, though faster than, earthbound spiders. Also, maggots, if they are able to lay their young inside a host, do the same job to live prey as they do to carcasses. the young maggots effectively eat away at the meat of the host, from the inside out. Not as passive as flatworms or tapeworms, but definitely more nasty. Who knew all those Sunday afternoons I spent watching Wild Kingdom would pay off so handsomely? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:18:49 -0400 From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr." Subject: DG: Re: Re: New Cell Formation > I'm WALLACE? I thought I was WALTER! Man, this > code-name-based-on-real-name stuff is for the birds. In Shadowrun I'd be > "Quickdeath" or "Rapidly Deteriorating Colon" or something cool and easy to > remember. And Cell W? Doesn't that mean _everybody_ is higher up than us? > (Except those schmucks in Y and Z cells. What about Cell X? There is no > Cell X. Those schmucks at Fox TV ruined it for everybody. And what the > hell do you call the guys in Z? Zed, Zach and _what_?) > Has anyone thought of a plot where Delta Green agents go rogue and begin > killing fellow DG agents higher up the pecking order just to get cooler > names? > > Agent WALTER, I mean, WALLACE (INSCOM) > aka Eric Brennan > I regret to inform you that Agent WALLACE will succumb to multiple infestations of various small insects, crabs, and starfish. Apparently, Agent WALLACE stumbled across an MJ-12 project researching the less appetizing mating and feeding habits of various earthbound creatures. Agent WALLACE's remains will be poured into a very small urn and the remains will be used to tamp out cigarette butts in the Foyer of the People Against Gun Violence Building in Washington DC. It is reported that his last words will be something to the effect of "Thank God my code name wasn't WILBUR, WILBERFORCE, or WENDELL.", assuming of rouce that his demise allows for speech. In any other case, he will be missed by his fellow agents, his superiors, and the family of spiders that were born in his lower abdomen. (Talk smack about *my* investigations, will you!) :-) - -Jim, CO - Cell W (We may be low on the alphabet, but we make up for it in angles and pointy parts!) PS Please forgive Agent WALLACE. He is new to DG and hasn't figured out that we shouldn't really sew our code names into our undies..:-)) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:25:38 -0400 From: "Eric Brennan" Subject: DG: Re: New Cell Formation (End of Name Complaints Thread - -----Original Message----- From: Jimmie Bise, Jr. To: Delta Green List Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 2:24 PM Subject: DG: Re: Re: New Cell Formation >It is reported that his last words will >be something to the effect of "Thank God my code name wasn't WILBUR, >WILBERFORCE, or WENDELL.", assuming of rouce that his demise allows for >speech. I was really partial to Wenslesdale myself. Agent WALLACE aka Eric Brennan aka Agent RAPIDLY DETERIORATING COLON ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:07:23 EDT From: Escutcheon@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Re: New Cell Formation Agent Jim, CO of Cell W, very kindly shared with us: <<< .... that Agent WALLACE will succumb to multiple infestations of various small insects, crabs, and starfish. Apparently, Agent WALLACE stumbled across an MJ-12 project researching the less appetizing mating and feeding habits of various earthbound creatures. Agent WALLACE's remains will be poured into a very small urn and the remains will be used to tamp out cigarette butts in the Foyer of the People Against Gun Violence Building in Washington DC. ...>>> Now really, Jim. This sort of thing isn't nearly revolting enough. We have standards to maintain on this list. And besides, you left out housefly digestion. Didn't you see David Croenenburg's remake of The Fly? I laughed until my wife had me sedated, but I didn't hurl, J. Frederick ------------------------------ End of deltagreen-digest V1 #41 *******************************