From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest)
To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org
Subject: deltagreen-digest V1 #46
Reply-To: Delta Green List <deltagreen@nocturne.org>
Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org
Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org
Precedence: bulk


deltagreen-digest        Friday, June 19 1998        Volume 01 : Number 046




----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:34:31
From: Davide Mana <doctor.dee@iol.it>
Subject: DG: Nuclear on the loose

Greetings.

Here's the latest news about the mistery cylinder found by a kid two days ago.

First of all, the kid (whose name is Paolo) does not appear to have
suffered contamination; but he has been in and out of three different
hospitals in less than two days - and will have to go through it all again
in a month.
His family is undergoing similar treatment. Paolo's house is no longer
sealed, but the whole area is being scanned for radiations.

Second, the cylinder contains Cesium 137 and is of German origin; it should
be part of a probe used in building industry to essay foundations and the
like.
A local building company apparently filed a charge after one such device
was stolen a few days back.

And now a few details to make you think...
a - the investigation is being conducted by Digos (political secret
service) and the Carabinieri (Army unit with police functions), with the
support of the Turin Noe division (the Ecological Disaster branch of our
special police force)
b - the cylinder was found by the kid near his granny's house, but also
real close to the local _kindergarten_ 
c - the "probe" is currently being held at the Trino Vercellese Nuclear
Power Plant (in a containment area?) 

As an aside, Duran Goodyear wrote
>I love stories like this, cause it shows just how lax and open some of the
>most dangerous places can be...
Keep in mind that our Nuclear administration idea of "crowd control" in
case of nuclear mishap was a guy wearing a white radiation suit and a black
gas mask going door to door to distribute brightly colored leaflets with
the caption "Everything is Under Control - No need to panic"; the leaflet
also contained area evacuation infos, and what numbers call if your
livestock and pets suddenly started dying "without apparent reason".

And this is it about the mistery radioactive device.
As for more data about the haunting of Cameri Airport, I'll post it
separately, as I fear it will be rather lenghty. 

See you later.
Cheers.

						Davide Mana
						Torino, Italy
						doctor.dee@iol.it

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:43:14 +0200
From: Phil Ward <pward@orctel.co.uk>
Subject: Re: DG: agent and his friendlies

R. Menzi wrote:
> This sounds like an idea that I have that allows a bunch of players
> and doesn't overcrowd the DG cell structure.  The agents don't expose
> themselves by associating very closely with each other on active
> operations.  Each player makes their own agent *and* a friendly for
> each other player's agent.  The an opperation is hit by the agents,
> each from thier own area of expertise and with their own group of
> assistants who are not quite in the know.  The friendlies may even
> believe that they are part of a grand gov't conspiricy, but are
> unaware of DG's true status.  The agents communicate, but don't
> compromise their actions or the rest of their cell by actually working
> together.
<snip> 
> Anyway, yea, it's similar in some ways to the _Ars_Magica_ idea, but
> also has a few side benefits for the DG cells.
> 

Now that is an improvement on my idea, and one which I'll 
incorporate. We've tried to get players to make up each  (and
play) other's henchmen in D&D, but we soon got into difficulty
when there were casualties amongst the prinary characters, 
and the henchmen. Matching the new characters with the party, 
and keeping the survivors on began to get a little tricky.

Personally, my guys are going to start as non-aligned, with
one of them perhaps a friendly, or vaguely aware that *something*
is going on, and then I'll be seducing them into the conspiracy
slowly. Probably they'll witness something they can't possibly
report, and then conspire with each other to cover it up. At that
point, their assessment by a real DG agent will be complete, and
they'll be ready to become a cell in their own right.

I'm not sure who to choose as the guy who (thinks he) knows what's
going on tho, and not too sure what to tell him yet.

still, ut's a boring day in work, and I have plenty of time to
write :-)

Phil Ward

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:31:54 -0400
From: "R. Menzi" <menzi@asan.com>
Subject: Re: DG: agent and his friendlies

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

>>>Personally, my guys are going to start as non-aligned, with one of
them perhaps a friendly, or vaguely aware that *something* is going
on, and then I'll be seducing them into the conspiracy slowly.
Probably they'll witness something they can't possibly report, and
then conspire with each other to cover it up. At that point, their
assessment by a real DG agent will be complete, and they'll be ready
to become a cell in their own right.<<<

	I wouldn't induct the whole group at once.  The agents are each
evaluated on their own before they are informed.  It is also not
likely that the entire group will have the station in the Gov't that
DG would find useful enough to inform about their history.  Your group
of players might each have one, very well-conected future agent, and
the others are the friendlies that make him so damn valuable.  The
same real agent may be evaluating all the various groups of
characters, introducing the proto-agent to the conspiracy after they
have worked for him on several cases.

	Eventually, when they are deemed safe and capable, only the agent
character-types will be inducted and introduced to each other so they
can pool their resources (and access to their friendlies abilities). 
They will not always be on the same case at the same time, but they
will share information freely between themselves to a degree that
doesn't occur between cells (excepting cell A).  Making them all DG
agents would make the conspiracy either too big or too concentrated
for my taste (and I know it may not be true for yours).

As a side note, it is also less believable that the entire group will
be brought into the fold.  For that they have the friendly role. 
While the group may work very well together, that is the reason why
they are allowed to know the little tidbits that are leaked to them. 
The friendlies would likely think that they are "in" despite their
real status, they may even think they are form a cell, but they would
not know that they were just part of the larger cell, each member of
which uses their group of friendlies to close a case and can call in
other members of the cell (and their friendlies) on "particularly
tough cases" (read: longer stories that you want to involve several
angles on investigation, I believe it was compared to layers of an
onion in the CoC book).

And, of course, the actual DG agents get to learn from each other
through intra-cell info-sharing.  There is also the benefit that even
if an op goes sour, only one agent is lost and the friendlies don't
really know enough to be a serious threat to DG security.

Well, those are the "defacto agent" friendlies, anyway.  There are
also the friendlies that don't do ops.  They make good background
characters for the players.  Even the more active friendlies may have
contacts that spreal DG's tenticles and add more confusion to the web
should it ever be discovered.  With all the various commitees
investigating individuals two or three tiers away from the real
agents, DG agents can make their get-away much more easily, which is,
after all, the whole point of a cell structure.

Regards,
<<<R. Menzi>>>

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use <http://www.nai.com>

iQA/AwUBNYldCKhFxkX3nANTEQIeDwCgr2ILEg2OeOPQBXiuw/H98HWw3a0AoK+i
ir5pOqv1ePOZu6YiSfgToydk
=Ovql
- -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:18:36 -0500
From: Nightstar <shepherd@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: DG: Sick Humour: Evil Filk-fragment...

At 10:40 PM 6/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>To the tune of the Grinch song, either the original or the cover...
>>
>>"He's a sick one, Mr. Squick..."
>
>As a new person to the list, I almost hesitate to ask, but, who is Mr.
>Squick? I'm already afraid of the answer...kinda apropo to the list, tho...
>
>GAry m, minor epot
>------------------------------
>"Decadence is it's own reward"
>
>DNRC Member since 1995
>AOL Instant Message ID& AOL email address: gmgm1970
>ICQ ID#: 8391493 
>ICQ nick: minor epot
>
>


OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!! HE ASKED!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
- -----------------------------------------------------------
Finally, a light at the end of the tunnel......heh heh heh.
					Nightstar

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:38:07 -0500
From: Nightstar <shepherd@infocom.com>
Subject: Re: DG: The Haunting of 53rd Fighter Wing

At 11:54 AM 6/19/98, you wrote:
>Greetings again.
>
>Having covered the misterious cylinder in a previous post, I'll expand a
>bit about "my weird experiences in the Air Force". Feel free to delete the
>whole thing if you are not interested, of course.
>I can assure you that these are real stories, however.


<snip>


>Bit of an anti-climax, eh?
>Sorry about that.
>Any ideas?
>
>Take care.
>
>							Davide Mana
>							Torino, Italy
>							doctor.dee@iol.it
>


E.T. phone home.



Really though, good story! Having worked at a state hospital for 21 years
on night shift, I know how strange the wee hours can get. Sometime I will
share some tales from the asylum.
- -----------------------------------------------------------
Finally, a light at the end of the tunnel......heh heh heh.
					Nightstar

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:01:29 -0400
From: "Elliot A. Rushing" <lex@trellis.net>
Subject: DG: Re: Re: Cops.

- -----Original Message-----

Howdy, Phil. ;)

>I actually intend to give the players a stable of characters to
>work with, one primary 'Star' character most likely a homicide
>detective,
>two 'gogs' (to borrow the Ars Magica term, and no offense meant) from
>the
>regular police, emergency paramedics or SWAT, and a professor type
>character,
>for information purposes who will act as a guest-star/recurring
>character
>to provide very specific scientific data.
>
>This _is_going to confuse things, but it does mean they have easy access
>to a character who should immediately fit into the group, and has a
>reason to invesitage along-side them.


All in all, I think that's a very wise way to construct a DG group (of
course, I'm an Ars fan, so my opinion may be suspect). ;)



>So far, one of my players in a rare fit of enthusiasm, had come up with
>the idea of playing a police-affiliated clairvoyant!!!



Interesting.  We've never used them, but they *do* show up a lot in movies,
books, and TV -- and a potentially valuable friendly, DG-wise. ;)


>I had specifically gone out of my way not to tell them they'd be going
>anywhere near the occult or paranormal! Reporters were the first
>guest-star I'd though of, and would make a great way for one player
>to annoy the rest of the group :-)


True. But I'd suggest encouraging any reporter player to play a likable
character.  Cops naturally don't like reporters, but it's a lot harder to
slough them off when they're nice people, or your friends.  I actually bump
into this a bit in real life.

Try it and watch them squirm -- "No, Bob, I really *can't* get you that
report -- I know I did *last* time, but that was different..."  ;)


>
>Yeah, I knew about the paperwork, I have an uncle in the Police
>over here (Wales), and it seems to take a major part of his time.


It takes a major part of everyone's time (especially the attorney -- sigh).



>One quick query; are you taken off active-duty and assigned paperwork
>after discharging your weapon? I have a vague recollection of a
>'real-life' style cop-show, perhaps the 'real Miami vice', who
>complained
>that Crocket and Tubbs would never do any work if they fired as often
>as they did. They'd spend there life doing parperwork and dreading
>the next official enquiry into each and every shot.


Another good question.  *Every* time a law enforcement officer discharges a
weapon (I would assume this would apply to federal agencies, too, but I
can't say for sure)  there *will* be extensive reports written and
investigations conducted.

There are two types of investigations -- administrative and criminal.
Often, there's a criminal investigation by an outside state agency
responsible for that sort of thing -- in North Carolina, the State Bureau of
Investigation (SBI) conducts this.  The point of this investigation is to
uncover criminal wrongdoing, if any -- these investigations usually clear
the officer, because most shoots are "good" shoots.  If the agents find
evidence the other way, they'll take it to the DA, who makes a decision
regarding whether to take the evidence to the grand jury and seek criminal
indictments against the officer -- very serious, and obviously
career-breaking.

If the facts are really bad, you could conceivably have an FBI "Civil Rights
violation" criminal investigation (these were used in the 1960s regarding
civil rights' workers' homicides when the legitimacy of state and local
agencies in the South was suspect) - but this would be relatively rare in
the 1990s -- the FBI has plenty to do, and would probably get involved only
after some showing that the state-level remedies weren't sufficient or were
flawed in some way (through corruption, for example).

The administrative investigation is a different animal, and is conducted
differently by different agencies (usually larger agencies have more
complicated processes).  This is an internal investigation conducted by a
ranking supervising officer, Standards officer, or Internal Affairs officer,
with the goal of determining the overall appropriateness of the officer's
actions -- a lesser standard than a criminal investigation.  These are the
famous IAD investigations you see on cop shows - cops investigating cops.
If the shooting officer's actions are determined to be inappropriate
(usually by measuring the actions against appropriate laws and internal
regulations), the officer may be disciplined, suspended, or fired.

A shooting incident is considered a high stress incident, and many agencies
(although mine usually doesn't) will place officers on "administrative
leave" (forced paid vacation) or "light duty" (answering phones at a desk)
while the investigations are being conducted, to remove the officer
(presumably) from the stressful environment.  Most agencies (including mine)
also provide opportunities (or requirements) for officers involved in
shooting incidents to avail themselves of counseling resources at taxpayer
expense.  This whole police work reducing SAN business is on the money, in
my opinion -- while I haven't been involved in a shooting, watching my first
autopsy of a fallen officer (from another agency, thank God) had me *not*
sleeping for a while.

We've had two officer-involved shootings this year (very rare here -- the
last prior officer involved shooting was at least 10 years ago), and in both
instances the officers (one an acquaintance, one a friend of mine) were
cleared by both the required criminal and administrative investigations.
Neither officer was placed on leave, although each did voluntarily take a
few days off to reflect.  Both officers availed themselves of a
psychological debriefing, which they say helped.  Notably, both individuals
shot (a homicide defendant and a drug dealer) -- lived.

I've probably meandered too long, but I hope this helps.  Most agencies will
use the "administrative leave" as a way to -help- the officer, not as
punishment.

Here in America, police shootings are pretty rare and are *very* serious
business, particularly given unfortunate past abuses and the current
political and social environment.  If your PC officers start blowing people
away, it should have significant consequences.  That said, I'd temper my
paperwork/administrative hassle tools to fit the situation -- you still want
it to be fun for them.

Hope this helps.


Take care,


Elliot.

- -----
Elliot Rushing
lex@trellis.net

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:51:19 +0200
From: Phil Ward <pward@orctel.co.uk>
Subject: Re: DG: Cops.

Elliot A. Rushing wrote:
<snip>
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Elliot.
> 
Absolutely brilliant chummer, I now have enough information
to make a pretty good start on the Campaign :-)

I tend to run a fairly 'low-fantasy' campaign, and these little
background nuggets will allow me to give them a pretty
realistic setting :-).


Tahnks again
Phil Ward

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:08:07 -0400
From: "R. Menzi" <menzi@asan.com>
Subject: DG: Cops, federal agencies and covert task forces

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Elliot Rushing wrote:

>>>Another good question.  *Every* time a law enforcement
officer discharges a weapon (I would assume this would apply
to federal agencies, too, but I can't say for sure)  there
*will* be extensive reports written and investigations
conducted . . . . you could conceivably have an FBI "Civil
Rights violation" criminal investigation . . . . police
shootings are pretty rare and are *very* serious business .
. . . If your PC officers start blowing people away, it
should have significant consequences.  That said, I'd temper
my paperwork/administrative hassle tools to fit the
situation -- you still want it to be fun for them.<<<

	This is how it goes for an official action that the
characters are acting in their capacity as law enforcement
officials.  A great many DG ops do not fall under this
heading.  DG is an unofficial conspiracy.  (And don't you
forget it!  Except for the friendlies; they shouldn't know
about those pesky little "details.")  In some cases, knowing
that DG is "off the books" can be the only line between real
agents and defacto ones.  The agents likely don't use their
standard issue when on a mission.  Maybe if they like the
make and model, they get another one that can't be traced to
them, but the balistics should never be a match for their
service weapon (or any other weapon registered under their
name.)  These weapons may be provided/aquired prior to each
mission.

	Unless the characters are acting in their official capacity
(and some of the targets/witnesses survive) there is no way
in hell that the characters will make a report on all of
their actions, except to DG, which is now as interested in
keeping decent intelligence and records as it is in kicking
Nazi ass (among other ofending groups).  Becasue the easiest
way to explain an op to the police is for them to never know
about it, "they" likely arrange for local/state autorities
to be busy elsewhere, there may even be a DG clean up team
or two, composed of other friendlies with strong stomaches
and strong consciences (strong as in "strong enough to take
a beating").  Well, maybe their SAN ratings are nothing
special and the turnover rate is very high (more likely).

Damn, I use alot of side comments in my posts,

Of course, it is also much easier to lose the reports in the
military beuraucracy, like a report about strange phone
calls and non-existant lines can be ignored until someone
high enough makes it an issue, or makes it not an issue, as
the case may be.  A warning, though: MJ-12 seems to have
more contacts in the military industrial complex, so watch
your ass

Regards,
<<<R. Menzoa>>>

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use <http://www.nai.com>

iQA/AwUBNYmBo6hFxkX3nANTEQIUSQCgougv15/63TMYV063TcQOhR6cLfUAnizq
UPw9l/FBP9Nk/N1Ut0WkxMDO
=3Jk7
- -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:34:03 -0400
From: "Elliot A. Rushing" <lex@trellis.net>
Subject: Re: DG: Cops.

Hey, Phil. ;)

>Absolutely brilliant chummer, I now have enough information
>to make a pretty good start on the Campaign :-)


Excellent.  LAPD, hunh?   Now *there's* a highly-trained professional agency
in a progressive jurisdiction with publicity problems.

Sounds like good drama to me. ;)

>I tend to run a fairly 'low-fantasy' campaign, and these little
>background nuggets will allow me to give them a pretty
>realistic setting :-).


10-4.  Let me know if I can help further.

Y'know, cops make good friendlies/enemies/flavor for DG, generally. ;)

Take care,

Elliot.

- ----
Elliot Rushing
lex@trellis.net

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:38:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Illuminatus Primus <primus@satanic.org>
Subject: Re: DG: Sick Humour: Evil Filk-fragment...

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, G.M. wrote:

> As a new person to the list, I almost hesitate to ask, but, who is Mr.
> Squick? I'm already afraid of the answer...kinda apropo to the list, tho...

If anyone needs the MiB's "Mr. Squick" post re-sent to them, feel free
to ask. It's in my archive, along with most of the rest of his strange
babblings. They make good material. >:>

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2

iQCVAwUBNYp3ucVnIkW8IEjpAQHnkQQAzsOqUmWPopzyoC2pDCmsHVSQD9PpMog1
xB6OdQSX6Pr4GPutAS++Eb/D1ztArfB5r84VkQlZr1EtsLDrkLlF7eDUnQnW+stu
vr1v2zWZ7Ght4zfbbRVyn2tT+KdcrY0yqEQdk9Cd0Xs7zmkTAEiTuk9N4oWgDu3k
CdiT3Ruh2/w=
=Q7nV
- -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

------------------------------

Date: 19 Jun 1998 15:56:57 BST
From: ITDCJB                               <ITDCJB@hantsnet.hants.gov.uk>
Subject: [none]

>     I have a question for anyone who can answer it.  I seem to remember
>reading somewhere about something called the Armitage Foundation, run by
>Miskatonic University for the purpose of investigating paranormal
>phenomena.

Isn't Armitage Shanks a lavatory manufaturer?

        _________       Animation, Bar Conversation,
       /__  __/ /__     Anticipation, Disinclination.
       __/ / / .  /
      /___/ /____/      "Soho (Needless to say)", Al Stewart

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:08:45 -0400
From: Viktor Haag <viktor@peergroup.com>
Subject: DG: Modified Rules?

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1


Greetings agents,

I'm intending to use CORPS, and I'll post my little "player's booklet"
to my web site when it's done (as well as apocryphal "referee's notes"
section of said booklet).

On the subject of using the Silhouette Rules (posted by Duran
Goodyear), I have two comments to make:

a) somewhere on the net in 'Heavy Gear' country I came across some
short stories, set in the Heavy Gear universe, that had some strong
Cthulhoid elements to them ... you might want to search these out.

b) you might want to pick up Tribe 8 when it comes out in the next few
weeks -- rumour has it that it will be Silhouette based, but include
rules for various supernatural things (psionics? magic? who knows?).


Agent Eduard


- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use <http://www.nai.com>

iQA/AwUBNYp/mirplIwlWTDJEQIdjQCfVu3fd3xEu9iIcAyt0qEfTNkXeD8AoO9+
bi+lngzOU9hYasJwWVWZ7hcD
=1Oak
- -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:04:47 -0700
From: alank@shermanloan.com (Alan L. Krause)
Subject: Re: DG: The Haunting of 53rd Fighter Wing

At 11:54 AM 6/19/98 +0000, you wrote:
>I'll expand a bit about "my weird experiences in the Air Force".
...
>Bit of an anti-climax, eh?

Actually, it reminded me of an old _Twilight Zone_ episode whence an old
widow receives calls with 'no one' on the other line. Eventually, it turns
out that the telephone lines have been down (physically severed in two by
excess wind or something along those lines) during the time she claims to
have received calls. The end of the episode shows the end of the severred
telephone line resting on her husband's grave.

So, all you're missing in the story above is some sort of shocking,
inciteful revelation to blow us (or your players) away. An O. Henry type of
ending, I guess...

Alan


- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Alan L. Krause     Network Administrator / Programmer Extraordinaire
alank@shermanloan.com                   Sherman and Associates, Inc.
"God is dead." -Nietzsche                  "Nietzsche is dead." -God

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:58:23 +0900
From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes)
Subject: Re: DG: The Haunting of 53rd Fighter Wing

>Really though, good story! Having worked at a state hospital for 21 years
>on night shift, I know how strange the wee hours can get. Sometime I will
>share some tales from the asylum.
>-----------------------------------------------------------

Come on, share them now.  They're really quite useful for inspiration.

Jay







On retreat:

Rincewind:  "Come on, let's run away."

Eric:  "Where to?"

Rincewind: "Don't you worry about _to_.  In my experience that always takes
care of itself.  The important word is _away_."

Terry Pratchett, "Eric"

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:07:10 +0900
From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes)
Subject: Re: DG: The Haunting of 53rd Fighter Wing

>Having covered the misterious cylinder in a previous post, I'll expand a
>bit about "my weird experiences in the Air Force". Feel free to delete the
>whole thing if you are not interested, of course.
>I can assure you that these are real stories, however.

<big snip (refer to original post)

>Then we had another tremendous thunderstorm, with both energy and
>communication blackout.
>And we did not ear from the Pilot Decontamination Shack again.
> 
>Bit of an anti-climax, eh?
>Sorry about that.
>Any ideas?

        Certainly.  One of the folks at the Nuclear Decontamination unit was
killed in someway during the thunderstorm. Freak conditions allowed his
ghost to be able to interact with the electrical systems of the phone lines.
Not realizing his own death and desperate for help, he used this ability to
make the phone calls.  Unfortunately, he did not have enough physical
presence to be able to communicate.  The distant roaring, breathing sounds
were actually his cries for aid.  Unfortunately, the next thunderstorm
deprived him of his one way of interaction, so his impotent ghost is now
only able to wail soundlessly in the ether.

        Next idea, anyone?
Jay 







On retreat:

Rincewind:  "Come on, let's run away."

Eric:  "Where to?"

Rincewind: "Don't you worry about _to_.  In my experience that always takes
care of itself.  The important word is _away_."

Terry Pratchett, "Eric"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:21:51 -0400
From: "R. Menzi" <menzi@asan.com>
Subject: DG: below and beyond 

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I got on the topic of DG actions not following the usual
paperwork proceedures (though they make regular reports to
DG whenever they get new int, to ensure that as little a
possible is lost).  I want to post a few bits from the DG
website.  This exerpt is from
http://www.delta-green.com/whatisdg.html

I think it explains my point and the fact that DG definitely
does not give its agents a shrink on the public dole.

>>>Begin quote<<<
Now we're on to the question: "What does Delta Green want
from you?" Nothing short of the rest of your life. Delta
Green wants you to pick up where I left off: doing what I've
been doing for the last ten years. I've falsified official
reports. Lied under oath. Planted evidence. Stolen and
destroyed evidence. Stolen and destroyed federal property.
Run illegal wiretaps. Abused the power and authority of my
office. Gone AWOL. Committed arson, burglary, grand larceny,
aggravated assault, battery, and killed. On three of those
occasions, what I did was nothing short of cold-blooded
murder. And all in the name of doing the jobs nobody else
can or will

It ought to make me feel untouchable. Above the law. All it
does is make my stomach churn, my head pound, and make me
want that first drink so goddamn badly I think I'm going to
crawl out of my skin. And the really scary thing is once I'm
taken off the FBI active-duty list, I'll have even more time
to devote to Delta Green ops. More opportunities to get
pulled apart like a gingerbread man. More opportunities to
claw out my own eyes. More opportunities to collect a
thousand more memories I don't want to have

And once you're in, you're in for life. You don't retire.
You don't quit. Even after you screw up your career with
whichever alphabet-soup agency you call home and find
yourself with an early retirement, you're still not out. Not
ever. I've seen a guy out of the game for over twenty years
get the call for one more Night at the Opera. Damnedest
thing is, he just packed his bag, kissed his wife, and left
with me without so much as a blink of hesitation. He was a
good man. A goddamn good man.
>>>End quote<<<


Regards,
<<<R. Menzi>>>

- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use <http://www.nai.com>

iQA/AwUBNYmg/ahFxkX3nANTEQI6mwCg2wlSuWFX/vU4/4lBAGhffV3zJToAniuA
83U5s07Haw1JfQ/Zttf4aCeT
=5Vtm
- -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:07:53 -0400
From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price)
Subject: Re: DG: Nuclear on the loose... Russian Weirdness!

Davide wrote:

>Here's the latest news about the mistery cylinder found by a kid two days ago.
>Second, the cylinder contains Cesium 137 and is of German origin; it should
>be part of a probe used in building industry to essay foundations and the
>like.
>As an aside, Duran Goodyear wrote
>>I love stories like this, cause it shows just how lax and open some of the
>>most dangerous places can be...

I am suddenly reminded of an apparently true story from 1997 that I came
across and put in the "weird scenario ideas" file. I reprint (without
permission) the article from the Electronic Telegraph below:

Village shattered by mafia's 'radioactive war'
 By Nanette van der Laan in Glazyn

A MAFIA war is being fought out with radioactive rods, according to the
villagers of Glazynino
just outside Moscow. Panic broke out last week, after a walker with a
geiger counter found some small, black graphite rods that emitted high
levels of radiation. Now, a handwritten note pasted on the village well
reads: "Radiation Alert! All inhabitants are to undergo a complete medical
examination in Moscow."

The rods are about the size of pieces of chalk, and had been used as toys
by children for more
than two years. Since then, a small army of experts from Moscow has
descended on the village of
just 29 homes to comb a nearby forest.

About 40 men wearing protective clothing and white masks have been working
around the clock, shovelling radioactive material from an abandoned
construction site into large white containers. So far, more than 300
kilograms of radioactive waste has been removed.
"They are not that dangerous but the site will remain contaminated for some
time to come," said
Anatoly Trishkin, who is overseeing the clear-up. "We have to do more tests
before we can say
how serious this is."

Where the radioactive rods came from and how they ended up in the hamlet
remains a mystery
but the Federal Security Service - the successor of the KGB - has started
an investigation.
Most villagers think that the mafia families, who are building their summer
homes in the forest
clearing, are to blame. Most of the rods were found at the site of a
mansion left uncompleted
after the owner was murdered two years ago.

A physicist checking radiation levels said: "The bandit who wanted to move
in obviously had
some debts. He didn't pay up, so first they killed him and then they wanted
to ensure that his
family would never move into that house."

However preposterous this sounds, the people of Glazynino are convinced
that the new
neighbours are fighting out their differences with nuclear waste. And with
the construction of 20 luxury homes under way in the area, they fear the
worst.

"We never had anything like this until those rich guys showed up," said
Ivan, 64. "As soon as
they started building their castles, all the trouble started."

Food for thought eh?

Later

Graeme

graemep@immag.mcg.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:49:18 -0400
From: "Elliot A. Rushing" <lex@trellis.net>
Subject: DG: Re: below and beyond 

Howdy. ;)

>I got on the topic of DG actions not following the usual
>paperwork proceedures (though they make regular reports to
>DG whenever they get new int, to ensure that as little a
>possible is lost).  I want to post a few bits from the DG
>website.  This exerpt is from
>http://www.delta-green.com/whatisdg.html
>
>I think it explains my point and the fact that DG definitely
>does not give its agents a shrink on the public dole.


I've enjoyed your posts, and agree with you.

My intent was to help Phil (in hte UK) out with simulating American police
procedures for what appears to be a "DG-friendly" initial campaign where the
characters, at least initially, are normal *cops* instead of DG agents --
the discussions of shootings, paperwork, et al., was directed toward a
simulation of law enforcement "officialdom", as it were, in a way that's
bureaucratically annoying to PCs (and thereby satisfying to the GM ;) ).

I certainly agree that DG itself (thank goodness it's fictional) would have
few, if any, of the bureaucratic characteristics of a legitimate law
enforcement agency.  That, after all, is part of the point, and what makes
DG such a natural and logical (in gaming terms) modern setting for horror
RPing.

Your restatement of the fundamental nature of Delta Green is well-written
and well taken. ;)

Take care,


Elliot.
- ----
Elliot Rushing
lex@trellis.net

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:50:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: gmgm@netmcr.com (G.M.)
Subject: Re: DG: Sword Bearing Fractured Statue

>   What is the scene on the cover of the DG book?  Is it a reference to 
>a playtest game or just a pretty picture?  Does anyone know?  Does 
>anyone besides me care?

I don't know if its from a game, but I know what it is. It's an Angel.





GAry m, minor epot
- ------------------------------
"Decadence is it's own reward"

DNRC Member since 1995
AOL Instant Message ID& AOL email address: gmgm1970
ICQ ID#: 8391493 
ICQ nick: minor epot

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:26:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Man in Black <mib@cyberspace.org>
Subject: Re: DG: Newbie questions Ahoy [keepers only]

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, the Artist formerly known as G.M. wrote:

> I always imagined tying a few squid to my face and then trying to say it
> while sneazing. 

Henceforth, I declare that you are to be known to all as:

"Sneezy the Squid"

The MiB has spoken!

Offer valid in 49 states, SOOORRRRY Tennessee!

The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins
Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:41:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Man in Black <mib@cyberspace.org>
Subject: Re: DG: Re: Modified Rules?

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Phil Ward wrote:

> I now need a few shotgun scenario's (tm), prefarrably nothing involving
> mr Squick (a creation that has caused much laughter and digust in
> my workplace). Preferably some non-mythos based:

What's wrong with Mr. Squick? 

Mr. Squick is the latest in a long series of NPC's deriving from my friend
Warren, who has a bad habit of creating NPC's for no reason other than to
annoy and/or gross-out the Players and their characters. Somewhere along
the way I picked up that habit.

I would suggest creating several long term criminal overlords for use in
gradually uncovering the Fate, kinda like Luther Mahoney on "Homicide -
Life on the Street." One (the most annoying or evil) should be gutted by
the characters, one should be gutted by the Fate for whatever reason, and
one should degenerate into insanity and sorcery - eventually becoming
crimelord of the city. They could have a place in day-to-day episodes, and
take center stage in exciting "series finale" type episodes.

I posted the Shotgun Scenarios on my once great page:

http://www.cyberspace.org/~mib

The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins
Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Man in Black <mib@cyberspace.org>
Subject: Re: DG: Sick Humour: Evil Filk-fragment...

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, G.M. wrote:

> As a new person to the list, I almost hesitate to ask, but, who is Mr.
> Squick? I'm already afraid of the answer...kinda apropo to the list, tho...

Check the list archives and do a text search: 

www.nocturne.org/deltagreen

Mr. Squick appears in two of my posts, and appears to be rapidly becoming
Dg's unofficial mascot.

The Man in Black is : getting "ahead" in the world
Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:02:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Man in Black <mib@cyberspace.org>
Subject: Re: DG: Sick Humour: Evil Filk-fragment...

On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Don Juneau wrote:

> 
> The Man In Black, a *very* odd person in Hawaii, came up with a sick idea
> a short while back: a madman who has amourous relations with severed
> heads. (Rest assured, it *was* squick. Not for all tastes, to say the
> least.)

Actually that's "Reanimated Severed Heads" preferably screaming, it's no
fun unless they're screaming. Human heads only, no animal heads, that's
sick!

The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins
Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:03:18 -0500
From: Cindy Burnes <Cimjindy@pcpros.net>
Subject: Re: DG: Newbie questions Ahoy [keepers only]

> Speaking of names, let's call this poor fellow by his right name. This guy
> is Adam Bolenbaugh, not Cindy Burnes. Obviously, Cindy Burnes is a code
> name--very clever with the gender switch there, Adam. Is Cindy any relation
> to Montgomery, by the way?
>

Yes yes yes. My true name is Adam, but from here on out, I will only be known
as code-name TUNAFISH. That should clear any confusion as to which alias I
happen to be using as an umbrella at the time.NO relation to Montgomery.. what
so ever...[hands small brown envolope to David and makes a "sushing" gesture].


- -TUNAFISH

> "Smithers, release the flying monkeys."
>
> Be seeing you,
> David Farnell

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:15:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Man in Black <mib@cyberspace.org>
Subject: Re: DG: The Haunting of 53rd Fighter Wing

The ghost phone story sounds very much like someone was using a
Demon-Dialer (sometimes called a War-Dialer), a semi-legal
telecommunications software that calls up every number in a given area
code and tries to identify any computer it contacts. This digital recon
allows crackers to get a complete target list of certain area codes (like
Air Force bases). The crackers in question may have been physically tapped
into the Decontamination lines (thius makes sense if they were really
defunct) or been spoofing from a junction box on base.

Then again, maybe someone official was testing the telecommunications
security of the base, or planting wiretaps, etc. 

Doesn't sound like a ghost to me at all.

The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins
Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum

------------------------------

End of deltagreen-digest V1 #46
*******************************