From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V1 #57 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Wednesday, July 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 057 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jun 98 10:34:04 PST From: david.sokolowski@fibre.com Subject: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery POSSIBLE SPOILER POSSIBLE SPOILER POSSIBLE SPOILER gang, wondering if you can help me complete a thought: a plastic surgeon, possessed by evil entity bent on warping humanity, has sufficient time to use his patients for his now-vile goals. eventually, much to their dismay, the patient's recently altered "parts" begin melting, morphing and otherwise causing great discomfort and pain (i'm thinking here of sanity-wrenching third and fourth eyeballs appearing where the most recent tummy tuck was done). my question: what part of the surgery part would offer the best opportunity for chaos and mayhem? not being a plastic surgeon myself, nor having ever received plastic surgery, i'm not sure how chin lifts and nose jobs are performed, or what "materials" are used when changing the body's shape, for that matter. i can imagine, in the MJ12/MiGo grand scheme, using protomatter to replace certain body parts and such, but for the moment i want to keep their "fingers" off this certain purveyor of vanity. any ideas would work. thanks for the thoughts, - -d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:52:44 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery David Sokolowski wrote: >a plastic surgeon, possessed by evil entity bent on warping humanity, has >sufficient time to use his patients for his now-vile goals. [snip] >my question: what part of the surgery part would offer the best opportunity for >chaos and mayhem? not being a plastic surgeon myself, nor having ever received >plastic surgery, i'm not sure how chin lifts and nose jobs are performed, or >what "materials" are used when changing the body's shape, for that matter. A lot of what I'm going to say here is based on guess work, but I imagine that much of the surgery itself relies heavily on removal of skin in various "wedge" shapes to allow remodelling (in the case of skin tucks etc). As such surgical techniques rely primarily on the removal (ratehr than addition) of tissue this cuts down on the amount of hideous grafting of extra-terrestrial material that could be done here. Liposuction (removal of fat by a vacuum cleaner (essentially) is another matter - especially if they have to use a solvent to dissolve some of the fat [adipose tissue to give it a more scientific name]. More interesting still is the use of implants to reshape the body. Silicone gels for breast implants are the best known. These use a silicone matrix inside a plastic bag which is implanted into a slit (usually under the breast) to alter the shape of the, er... appendage. This has been done for about 20 years or more. Of course, it has had it's problems - sometimes the silicone leaks from the bag and triggers all sorts of nasty autoimmune diseases (Dow-Corning lost millions to lawsuits for this a couple of years back: there should be plenty of info on the net on this). Less well known is the use of collagen implants (especially for lips). Not sure about the source of collagen (a protein from nails and hair), but I bet it comes from cattle or pigs (and we all know what sort of nasty, insidious infectious agents they can carry). Collagen is also being used as a matrix to grow skin cells on: if you have ever seen the pictures of the artificial human ear grafted on the back of a nude mouse that came out a year or two ago, you know what I mean. Incidentally, this is a very exciting and fast moving field of science attracting big money from industry at the moment. The sort of therapies (not just cosmetic surgery, think about new skin for burns victims for example) which will probably come in the next 10 years are very exciting, and just a little scary. >i can imagine, in the MJ12/MiGo grand scheme, using protomatter to replace >certain body parts and such, but for the moment i want to keep their "fingers" >off this certain purveyor of vanity. Good idea (replacement fingers especially: imagine all the yakuza that would be possessed by their new protomatter prosthetics to become an army of faceless killers for the Fun Guys!). But why not whole internal organs as well (limiting it to plastic surgery is fine, but think of all the desperate patients waiting for organ transplants out there). Backstreet surgeon using experimental procedures without FDA approval? Who's funding him? Why? the possibilities are wide open here. You could also think about genetic therapies to trigger the growth of new tissue (the genetic blueprint for, say, a new arm is already there: we just have to find a way of switching it on in a controlled manner: not nearly as easy as it sounds, but certain lizards can do it). >any ideas would work. thanks for the thoughts, Hope the above was some use. I would love to see anything that comes of it. Cheers Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:04:16 EDT From: Imandos@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: DG: BioChem info Graeme Price wrote: >Again, Psittacosis isn't viral, but Chlamydial (an intracellular bacterium >which cannot synthesize it's own ATP and is dependent on the host cell for >energy). Correct. The source I used is old and lists psittacosis as "in between virus and bacteria", but the 1995 edition of Bailey and Scott's Diagnostic Microbiology states that it is a chlamydial infection, agreeing with you - I'm glad you caught that outdated information. >Except Francisella tulariensis which is tick borne and dengue virus which >is mosquito borne. Aerosol transmission for these two is probably a no-no, >except under ideal (and artificial) conditions. Very thorough information about dengue, might I add, and very interesting, but I have read that it can be transmitted (very rarely) by aerosol droplet. However I know of two verified cases of aerosol infection by F. tulariensis - one accidental, in a laboratory, and the other involving volunteers in the U.S. Army in the 1950's who were sprayed with aerosol laced with F. tularensis germs. Also, it is quite true that tularemia is transmitted by ticks, but a major , if not the major mode of transmission in many areas of the southern U. S. is by the bite of Chrysops sp. , or deer flies. An interesting note - I am familiar with a microbiologist who is investigating possible Diptera vectors of Lyme disease, including Tabanus sp. His results have been thusfar promising. Incidentally, I geared the list to military applications, possibly I assumed too much that artificial conditions would take place, but now I explicitly write this, knowing well that such diseases, if transmitted aerially (except grippe of course and freak accidents or dust inhalation), are probably the result of artificial action. Thank you very much for the input and information, I always enjoy such discussions, and I find it fascinating that you work with these organisms, one of which (influenza viruses) you mentioned interests me greatly (as do arthropod vectors of zoonoses). Drop a line anytime, it would be appreciated. Sincerely, David H. (I can be reached at Imandos@aol.com, the screen name of my brother Thomas) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:38:05 -0700 From: paposehn@juno.com (Phil A Posehn) Subject: DG: Re: the wonders of Nicotine On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 11:12:27 +0900 "David Farnell" writes: >I remember from an anthropology class that some South American tribes >would >take tobacco enemas to get trance-visions. Wild tobacco is apparently >very >much higher in various active chemicals than domestic, so I don't know >if >they boiled it down or just stuck a pinch between their cheek and, uh, >other >cheek. > >Luke > > "Sucks To Be Them...The Sequel" Phil _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:19:04 -0700 From: paposehn@juno.com (Phil A Posehn) Subject: Re: DG: the wonders of Nicotine On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 14:40:05 -0400 "R. Menzi" writes: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >>>> Also useful is the stuff the South American Yanomamo use to >induce hallucinatory trances by force-injecting it up people's >noses (yecchh) -- can't remember what chemical that was, >though... <<< > >Hey, I saw that discovery channel special too! I saw a similar special on PBS. At the time I thought the titlt ought to have been,"Sucks to Be Them"! ...("Here we see the women of the village fishing for electric eels...My, she seems to have caught a BIG one!") Phil _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:58:38 -0700 From: paposehn@juno.com (Phil A Posehn) Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery On Tue, 30 Jun 98 10:34:04 PST david.sokolowski@fibre.com writes: >wondering if you can help me complete a thought: > >a plastic surgeon, possessed by evil entity bent on warping humanity, >has >eventually, much to their dismay, the patient's recently altered >"parts" begin >melting, morphing and otherwise causing great discomfort and pain This brings to mind an anecdote that one of my players told me after game, which for that reason I can't use for a while.... The paramedics were called to a hotel room in Las Vegas. When they arrived they found a woman on an operating table under general anesthetic in convulsions from an allergic reaction to the anesthetic. A dildo had been placed between her teeth to prevent her severing her own tongue. (please make 1st san check here) Upon further examination it was determined that she was actually a transexual male in the process of obtaining breast implants, one of which was only half -inserted.(2nd san check) Following the subsequent arrest of the Dr. and nurse, it was discovered that the nurse was also a former patient whose suture lines were suppurating...super glue had been used instead of sutures. Phil > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:54:52 -0500 From: "Charles Baucum Jr." Subject: Re: DG: RE: DG Enchanted Weapons Aaron Lizt wrote, >Maybe allow the enchantment of a certain clip that would impart " magical " >properties to the bullets stored within it after a certain amount of time ( >maybe from new moon to new moon, or even eclipse to eclipse! ). Interesting idea. I created a spell (Enchant Missile) for my CoC90 campaign. The players had to travel into Russia at the time of the Soviet collapse to get it. It would enchant 13 missiles (the spell originally called for arrows, but worked on any projectile). The spell took a great deal of time a good bit of SAN and required the blood of the caster (not alot, 1hp for one casting). No one ever thought to try it on anything over-the-top like cannon shells. I would have let them try but it would not have worked unless they used proportionally more blood. The effect was that the bullets would hit things out of phase (for ex. shambler from the stars). There was no to-hit or damage adjustment, it was an equalizer, not a god-weapon. Only two characters and one NPC ever even used the spell, and they only used the bullets once. They glowed brightly for anything that could see things out of phase. There was a set of lenses in an adventure that would reveal such things, made by a mad cinematographer for a big budget epic film being shot in the American Southwest somewhere. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:12:10 -0500 From: "Charles Baucum Jr." Subject: DG: Re: Code Book (keepers only) > CODE BOOK Pt. 1 > > critters: > Y'golonac=Senor Sock (kudos to the MiB for a classic) > > Mi-Go=The Fun Guys (I don't know who originally came up with that one--I > don't THINK it was me, anyway) A friend of mine drew a cartoon of a Mi-Go with a lampshade on it's "head" and a bottle in it's claw. It was titled "The Fun Guy from Yuggoth." I think lots of people have thought of it. > > Tsathoggua=The Easter Bunny > > Yog-Sothoth=Bubbles > > Cthonians=Graboids (from _Tremors_) > > Glaaki=Mr. Spiny > > Dholes=UPS (stands for Ultimate Phallic Symbol) > > Tcho-Tchos=Moes (from their haircuts; best to call them that in a high > "Curly" voice to get their attention: "Hey Moe!" BLAMBLAMBLAM) > > Byakhees=Bozos (due to their love of making balloon animals out of people's > intestines) These are from a campaign another friend of mine ran: Cthulhu=Chuck, or Big Chuck Nyarlathotep=Gnarly, or any anagram of Nyarlathotep And from my CoC game: Hastur=The "H" Entity, also the "H" word (as in "Don't say the "H" word!) The machine in the story "From Beyond"=Tillingast Resonator, or just Resonator any gun=Security Blanket, also wubbie Shantak=Col. Tcho-Tcho's Chicken > > > events: > The Bozo Treatment (aka The Byakhee Handshake)=The old > eyelids/tongue/intestines act. Fun at parties. > > Gerber (v)=To put someone's brain in a Mi-Go jar. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 19:11:06 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery Phil [in a particularly twisted frame of mind :)] wrote: >This brings to mind an anecdote that one of my players told me after >game, which for that reason I can't use for a while.... [snip!] >Following the subsequent arrest of the Dr. and nurse, it was discovered >that the nurse was also a former patient whose suture lines were >suppurating...super glue had been used instead of sutures. Not as dumb as it sounds: many hospitals are switching over to "superglue" for some purposes (it has several advantages over sutures IIRC: keeps the wound together, stops dirt getting in, is less painful to put in (and take out: it dissolves as new tissue is formed around it) and leaves less of a scar). Of course there is one important point to remember, medics only _call_ it superglue (technical term is cyanoacrylate tissue adhesive) - it isn't the same as the stuff you buy in shops! By the way, isn't "suppurating" a great word? reminds me of my old Med Micro tutor (who may or may not be connected to the gas-gangrene/farting guinea pig story that I keep threatening to share with you all....) Later Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Code Book (keepers only) On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, David Farnell used his valuable free time to write: > Tsathoggua=The Easter Bunny Ol' toad boy should be called "Chet" after the bullying big brother in Weird Science. He doesn't deserve the honored title of "Kermit." The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:15:00 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Any traffic? On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, [iso-8859-1] Ricardo J. Méndez wrote: > Hi there. I'm having problems with my e-mail (again). Has there been any > traffic on the list this past 5-7 days? All DG list messages are are archived: http://www.nocturne.org/deltagreen I believe Geocities has a quota on the amount of mail you can send/receive. This is undoubtedly the source of your communication discrepancies. I have no knowledge of any operation, project or experiment related to the interception of email. I can neither confirm nor deny any such reports... ... and you can trust me when I say that! The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:23:31 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 david.sokolowski@fibre.com exposed the disfigurement of his investigators and wrote: > > POSSIBLE SPOILER > > POSSIBLE SPOILER > > POSSIBLE SPOILER > > > > gang, > > wondering if you can help me complete a thought: > > a plastic surgeon, possessed by evil entity bent on warping humanity, has > sufficient time to use his patients for his now-vile goals. He/She would need a private practice, insane nurses/interns and an advanced form of the Viscissitude disipline/disease from Vampire: the Masquerade. Any Tal'ma'he'ra/Manus Nigrum involvement is purely optional. Not bad for a one shot adventure! The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: RE: DG Enchanted Weapons On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Charles Baucum Jr. wrote: > I created a spell (Enchant Missile) for my CoC90 campaign. The players had > to travel into Russia at the time of the Soviet collapse to get it. It > would enchant 13 missiles (the spell originally called for arrows, but > worked on any projectile). The spell took a great deal of time a good bit > of SAN and required the blood of the caster (not alot, 1hp for one > casting). No one ever thought to try it on anything over-the-top like > cannon shells. I would have let them try but it would not have worked > unless they used proportionally more blood. I'm thinking cruise missiles and smart bombs here :) Just gotta find a way to avoid using the blood (at least the caster's blood!) The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:32:39 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Graeme Price promoted the adulation of the grotesque: > By the way, isn't "suppurating" a great word? reminds me of my old Med > Micro tutor (who may or may not be connected to the gas-gangrene/farting > guinea pig story that I keep threatening to share with you all....) I'll make a deal with you, post the exploding hamster story and I'll post my "Random Sexual Perversions" table. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:02:12 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: Raising Arizona Cont. SYRINX sequentially bypassed each security system as Agent [Censored], Agent [Deleted] and I rappelled down the formerly laser sensored air shaft. We used the sonics to disintigrate the steel gratings preventing out descent into the ICE CAVE. We were all dressed in Standard Issue BDU's and carried typical sidearms. Our Majic clearance badges were forged by the best computer chicanery on the planet. We exited the shaft in a expansive cargo storage area. Large 50,000 gallon tanks of CryoGen were stored under pressure here. A few explosive devices were left behind as we continued down steel stairs, following the neutrinos emitted by Jane Doe. We bypassed a airlock system with stolen codes, the guards gave us funny looks but we explained nothing. We entered the land of the pod people. Hundreds of cryogenic tanks lined the walls, stacked up below and above us. As we approached our Jane Doe, I recognized Etienne Chulan, a dangerous psionic, and now a frozen Corpsicle. My palmtop's camera took perfect resolution images of her and the several dozen other members of the macro-human entity we have come to call "The Gestalt." I contacted SYRINX over the neutrino beam and told her to thaw out everyone. It was time to cause some carnage. I left Agents [Censored] and [Deleted] to brief the psychics. They injected themselves with the neuro-inhibitor drugs. I wandered out into the control room and shouted "OH MY GOD! They've breached the systems!" before detonating the CryoGen tanks. As the surprised MJ people looked about in fear. I wasted them with my Crossb^H^H^H^H^H Quark Beam. By this time the Gestalts with had captured the medical sections of the ICE CAVE facility and were reviving corpsicles that did not survive SYRINX's rapid defrosting. I took my palmtop to the control room computer and activated the Intelligence Daemon. Upon further reflection, the main display seemed oddly familiar, a fractal resonance of deja vu. Of course. It was SIPHON. I rapidly passed out as vital energies drained away into cyberspace. TO BE CONCLUDED... The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:22:17 EDT From: theherald@juno.com (Michael Layne) Subject: DG: Re: DG Enchanted Weapons On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT) The Man in Black writes: >On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Charles Baucum Jr. wrote: > >> I created a spell (Enchant Missile) for my CoC90 campaign. The >players had >> to travel into Russia at the time of the Soviet collapse to get it. >It >> would enchant 13 missiles (the spell originally called for arrows, >but >> worked on any projectile). The spell took a great deal of time a >good bit >> of SAN and required the blood of the caster (not alot, 1hp for one >> casting). No one ever thought to try it on anything over-the-top >like >> cannon shells. I would have let them try but it would not have >worked >> unless they used proportionally more blood. > >I'm thinking cruise missiles and smart bombs here :) Just gotta find a >way >to avoid using the blood (at least the caster's blood!) > >The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins >Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum > Hmm... I wonder if you could use one of those fluorocarbon synthetic blood substitutes? (Or would your cruise missile then only destroy synthetic artificial monsters?):) Michael theherald@juno.com "So you've told me about smart bombs! Are there also retarded bombs?" "Well, we prefer to speak of them as "velocity challenged"..." -- Clarissa da Svizerra and her husband (attrib.) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:41:14 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: Another Conversation with Stephan Alzis Continued from Raising Arizona... NOTE: you may wish to review "A conversation with Stephan Alzis" from the archive or Shane Ivey's website, otherwise, you just won't get it. MEMCON #6 (Memorandum of Conversation) CAST OF CHARACTERS: (mib): The Man in Black (N.): Stephan Alzis, busybody and meddler (Rabbit Boy): Adolph Lepus, hardcore psychotic Badass TRANSCRIPT BEGINS: (mib): "Oh! My head... Wha?? Wherremi?" (Rabbit Boy): "So, this is the infamous Man in Black eh?" (N.): "Yeah, that's you right? MIB?" (mib): "Uhh... no." (N.): "Dude, it says '(mib):' right before each of your lines." (mib): "Um, that is a pun." (Rabbit Boy): "A PUN?! I'll 'Pun' you right in the patootie!" (mib): "Well, I mean... it's one of those things that's the same backward as forward." (N.): "What, a palindrome?" (mib): "Yeah." (Rabbit Boy): "Woudn't that be 'mibbim'?" (N.): "You're a mibbim?" (mib): "No, that's... It's like... you know, an anagram." (Rabbit Boy): "So you're actually what? 'IBM?'" (IBM): "Uh, yeah, but I use MacOS and Linux." (N.): "Lemme get this straight, you are an international corporation with thousands of employees, and not some deranged lunatic posing as a secret agent?" (IBM): "Exactamundo." (Rabbit Boy): "Say, can I score some free AS400 software?" (IBM): "That's against corporate policy, I'm afraid." (N.): "No way man, You're the Man in Black." (mib): "I am not!" (N.): "Dude, you're the damn Man in Black, quit denyin' it!" (mib): "Hey, 'dude' yourself, I'm wearing camoflauge BDU's *not* black." (Rabbit Boy): "He's got a point there." (N.): "It could be a brilliant disguise." (Rabbit Boy): "Hmmm..." (N.): "Hmmmm..." (mib): "HMMM?! HMMMMM!!" (a huge UFO full of gestalt psionics busts through the ceiling and beams him up, disappearing into the endless night sky) (Rabbit Boy): "AIIIEEGH! My roof!" (N.): "Whoa, that's gonna raise the maintenance budget." TRANSCRIPT ENDS The Man in Black is : not available for comment Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 21:57:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Juneau Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Graeme Price wrote: > Phil [in a particularly twisted frame of mind :)] wrote: > > >This brings to mind an anecdote that one of my players told me after > >game, which for that reason I can't use for a while.... > [snip!] > > >Following the subsequent arrest of the Dr. and nurse, it was discovered > >that the nurse was also a former patient whose suture lines were > >suppurating...super glue had been used instead of sutures. > > Not as dumb as it sounds: many hospitals are switching over to "superglue" > for some purposes (it has several advantages over sutures IIRC: keeps the > wound together, stops dirt getting in, is less painful to put in (and take > out: it dissolves as new tissue is formed around it) and leaves less of a > scar). Of course there is one important point to remember, medics only > _call_ it superglue (technical term is cyanoacrylate tissue adhesive) - it > isn't the same as the stuff you buy in shops! Not the same stuff you buy as "Krazy Glue", rather; costumers who use latex appliances (mainly Klingons up here in the NorthWest) love it, even though it's pricey, difficult to get, and tough to work with. (Medical supply shops will sometimes supply it to "walk-ins", but not always. Don't say what it's for, and try to look "straight", act serious, the usual "cover" activities...) Biggest problem with it is that you need to use some pricey solvent to remove your appliance, very bloody carefully because it *is* well-bonded with your flesh. (Might just be strong solvent, but I figure it's not cheap in any event.) Can't recall offhand if it's what the Hollywood makeup artists use, that might just be gum arabic. Of course, they also use the hideously expensive latex as well... Personally, I've never had much trouble with superglue; my hands tend to be dry and rough, and every time I've spilt some it's untacked and rubbed off pretty easily... but then, I've not poured a whole tube on and then grabbed Mr. Happy, as those urban legends keep stating. Somewhere, I'd seen a suggestion that superglue be used as "instant handcuffs" - slather it on the palms, and make 'em assume the position. They might still leave, *but*.. Don ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:32:20 -0400 From: "R. Menzi" Subject: Re: DG: Re: DG Enchanted Weapons - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> Hmm... I wonder if you could use one of those fluorocarbon synthetic blood substitutes? (Or would your cruise missile then only destroy synthetic artificial monsters?):) <<< not really necessary, though you must plan ahead. You need to draw anough blood to cover the missile and store it. The blood must be from the caster, so you can't do a constant transfusion thing to get the blood back. A pint of blood (with the normal cell count) will recover in about a month, so this is a preparation that will take some time and alot of light-headedness. Regards, <<< R. Menzi >>> - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNZgyFKhFxkX3nANTEQLMFACguUWikl/svjFjv5ZLzQmtyF7AP3gAniwf HcLl3D5hvxABPm+bdUfntqgq =BmeI - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:38:55 +0900 From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes) Subject: Re: DG: Re: Silly Ammo-Mongering >When I was a kid, many years ago, nearly every pre-teenage kid I knew owned >a .22 caliber rifle and/or a shotgun or had easy access to one. After >school and on week-ends we use to go to the town dump and shoot rats >running from the burning garbage heaps. We were very deadly with our >weapons, rarely ever missing. Understand, this was with adult approval >because the only good rat is a dead rat. > Since then, my >collection of guns and ammo has diminished considerably but not entirely, >my aim is still true, and the rats have become two-legged. I don't think I >am unique or unusual as far as ordinary Mid-western Americans go. And one >thing still remains true.... Information for non-Americans: As a fellow midwesterner, I have to say thta the above is pretty much true. My hometown easily has more pistols, rifles, and shotguns than people, and more than a couple fully automatic weapons. I would like to point out, however, that gunshot-related homicides are _extremely_ rare. Question for author: Are you in law enforcement? Jay - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- On retreat: Rincewind: "Come on, let's run away." Eric: "Where to?" Rincewind: "Don't you worry about _to_. In my experience that always takes care of itself. The important word is _away_." Terry Pratchett, "Eric" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:42:17 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Joseph Ellis Subject: Re: DG: Re: Code Book (keepers only) How about The Good ol(d) boys =Great Old Ones SJE "Sometimes I think that war is God's way of teaching us Geography." -Stephen Fry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 11:48:18 From: Davide Mana Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery Greetings. David Sokolowski wrote >a plastic surgeon, possessed by evil entity bent on warping humanity, has >sufficient time to use his patients for his now-vile goals. > >eventually, much to their dismay, the patient's recently altered "parts" begin >melting, morphing and otherwise causing great discomfort and pain (i'm thinking >here of sanity-wrenching third and fourth eyeballs appearing where the most >recent tummy tuck was done). > >my question: what part of the surgery part would offer the best opportunity for >chaos and mayhem? Personal opinion: cosmetic surgery/implants. And being a bookish kind of guy, I instantly suggest an absolute "must read": humorous "The Night He Cried", by the great Fritz Leiber. It does not deal with plastic surgery, but the climax is probably the closest description you can find of a "sanity-wrenching" effect. Check it out. The woman with eyes on her breasts in "Gothic" also springs to mind, of course, but it would be probably considered tacky. And if I remember correctly, the whole plot of Cronenberg's "Rabid" starts with a skin graft. Collagen lips also offer a nice opportunity: from a few real-life horror-stories I heard from my female players (trust the ladies to have the worst possible details on such things), the collagen stuff has sometimes the horrible tendency to "make bubbles" in response to pressur variations (on planes, e.g.), leaving the inplant subject with unevenly bulbous, congestionated lips. From this to the classic "squid-face" effect, the transition is rather easy. Under the same conditions, strange, squeaking sounds from breast implants are also not unheard-of, apparently. And here I better stop. Keep us posted about developments. Cheers. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@iol.it ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:29:18 -0700 From: "Gerry Mckelvey" Subject: Re: DG: Death by Plastic Surgery > > He/She would need a private practice, insane nurses/interns and an > advanced form of the Viscissitude disipline/disease from Vampire: the > Masquerade. Any Tal'ma'he'ra/Manus Nigrum involvement is purely optional. > > Not bad for a one shot adventure! I like Viscissitude. It's my favorite thing from that game...and I've always thought it had lovecraftian overtones too...I ran a Hunter campaign (all PC's were human, and clueless...but not for long..) where one of the NPC blood dolls had been infected by the disease..she was passing it to one and all...when she hit one one of the PC's he thought he was going to 'get some' (I believe that's the common phrase). well, he got something all right...and there wasn't an antibotic that could help him...it got worse, they tracked the infected blood dolls down and found that some were regular blood/plasma doners (it helped to pay the rent...). Not all of the infected were soul eaters of course, but the PC's were really paranoid about hospitals afterwards..not what i intended, but the fear effect was noted and filed for future reference. One of my PC's was a CDC offical too...she really had a hard time trying to explain to here superiors why she wanted to close down all the city blood banks and destroy thier inventories/investigate all doners and recipients...heh. now just add the mythos into it (mj12, insert random cult, mix to desired results obtained..) just some random thoughts. hope they help. Jerry McKelvey Exitus Acta Probat. > > The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins > Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:56:47 +0100 From: Nick Subject: DG: exploding hamsters this hamster didn't explode; but it was running in it's wheel so fast that the friction ignited the sawdust in it's cage. The resulting conflagaration spread to the curtains of the unfortunate household, and gutted most of the building, a semi in Batley, West Yorkshire. The inhabitants escaped, and the firemen were able to rescue the hamster - who is apparantly now not allowed to run in it's wheel unsupervised. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:29:40 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: DG: Gangrene Story (GROSS!) The M.i.B finally persuaded me to share my sordid past when he wrote: >I'll make a deal with you, post the exploding hamster story and I'll post >my "Random Sexual Perversions" table. Well that convinced me to finally send it. So here goes. Read no further if you are of a squeamish disposition. It was back in the late spring of '91, when I was still a fresh-faced 2nd year undergrad, that I took the compulsory Microbiology of Infection course at the University of [censored]. This was taught by... let us call him Dr. X. Dr. X was an elderly veterinary pathologist of the old school: didn't believe in things like rubber gloves and face masks. He was also the closest thing to a walking corpse that I have ever seen - he had a receeding hairline, liver spots, a roman nose and a little pencil moustache. His skin was drawn so taughtly over his face it looked like someone had stuck a pencil through the back of his neck and twisted it around to pull all the flesh back. He made Donald Pleasance look like Cary Grant [I later found out that his physical condition stemmed from when he autopsied a dead cow and upon cutting into the lungs found out that it had died of Brucellosis - he then did the reflexive thing by breathing in and going "oh shit!" and spent the next two years off sick with pulmonary brucellosis]. Anyway, this gives you an idea of what Dr. X was like [I could also mention the time when he wet himself with excitement whilst describing the pathologic lesions of necrotising fasciitis, but that would be cruel]. Anyway his practical course was not exactly the highlight of the year, being pretty boring (face it, you've seen one bacterial colony growing on an agar plate, and you've seen them all [this isn't strictly true, but you get the idea!]. The highlight of the course was the gangrene practical. To prepare forthis, he injected a pair of guinea pigs in the peritoneum with Clostridium perfringens (the bacterium responsible for gas gangrene) and then killed them after a couple of days [personally I feel that this was quite an unnecessary use of animals, but there you are]. The dead guinea pigs were put in the freezer until we needed them for the practical. Here is where things started to go wrong. Having pieced things together after the event, here is what happened. The practical was set for a Monday morning, but had to be postponed until the Tuesday afternoon because of a bank holiday. On the Friday afternoon, the departmental technician moved the guinea pigs out of the freezer so she could get to her samples which were behind the dead animals. Then the telephone went, and she forgot about the guinea pigs which were left on a tray on top of the freezer. It was a hot long weekend. The bacteria started to grow. The guinea pigs started to ferment. Time passes and the day of the practical arrives. Finding the guinea pigs on the top of the freezer and assuming that they had been take out by the technician that morning, Dr. X. (not having any truck with concientious objectors) insists that the entire class comes in close to watch him open up the guinea pigs. He uses scissors to remove the skin which he pins back to expose the peritoneum. The fact that the peritoneum was distended should have been a warning, but you recall Dr. X's past record with autopsies. I should also mention at this point that I had a severe head cold at the time and couldn't smell a thing. Dr. X looks around for a scalpel, can't find one and says "dosn't matter" a very strange, manic look comes over his face and he (I swear this is exactly what happened) uses his thumbnail (no gloves) to cut into the peritoneum. The trapped gas inside the guinea pig now escapes through the hole in the peritoneum, making a sound like a deflating balloon. Dr. X goes a strange purple colour (no face mask) the entire class (except me - I couldn't smell a thing) takes several rapid paces backward due to the stench, which several of my classmates attempted, but failed, to describe adequately to me. The upshot of this was that because I couldn't smell anything, I ended up taking the slide smears for microscopy for the entire class. Liquid guinea pig isn't a pretty sight (even under a microscope). The entire class complained about Dr. X's, er... teaching style and he subsequently left the University to teach vets somewhere in Scotland (I think). So, you understand that although I may be a sick and twisted individual, I was taught by experts. Anyway, I am off on holiday (to the UK) for 3 weeks tomorrow. I have packed all the essentials (sunblock, umbrella, reading material, brain surgery kit etc.). I will look forward to seeing MiBs pervert rules on my return. Later Graeme ------------------------------ End of deltagreen-digest V1 #57 *******************************