From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V1 #79 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Thursday, July 23 1998 Volume 01 : Number 079 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:25:47 -0400 From: "John C. Detwiler" Subject: DG: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars Check out the following site: http://www.panspermia.org/ Panspermia is the theory that life on Earth was seeded from space (bacteria-carrying comets--make sure your comets have all their shots). One of the basic premises is this: if evolution is truly random then life hasn't existed on earth long enough to account for the diversity we see. I guess the idea isn't too well accepted. Anyway, it's all pretty good fodder. Cthulhu: "Who's your daddy? Huh? Who's your daddy?" Investigator: "You gotta be kidding me!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:37:29 +0100 From: "Winkelman, Mark" Subject: DG: RE: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars bacteria-carrying comets - pish and tosh, everyone knows that earth life evolved from the genetic experimentation of the Elder Things. Mark Winkelmann >---------- >From: John C. Detwiler[SMTP:JDetwiler@compuserve.com] >Sent: 23 July 1998 15:25 >To: Delta Green List >Subject: DG: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars > >Check out the following site: >http://www.panspermia.org/ > >Panspermia is the theory that life on Earth was seeded from space >(bacteria-carrying comets--make sure your comets have all their shots). >One of the basic premises is this: if evolution is truly random then life >hasn't existed on earth long enough to account for the diversity we see. I >guess the idea isn't too well accepted. Anyway, it's all pretty good >fodder. > >Cthulhu: "Who's your daddy? Huh? Who's your daddy?" > >Investigator: "You gotta be kidding me!" > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:03:37 +0000 From: "John P. Yuda" Subject: DG: An Item of Mutual Interest Alphonse, You may want to check out this website , which, as far as I can tell is describing some new players on the scene. At present, we can only consider these societies to be hostile, although a rough truce/alliance with one or more of them may be a possibility. Please forward to the appropriate agents and cell leaders. Yuda Ok, out of character now, this is The Stage, which is a (freeware) setting for the freeware system The Window. I'm using Window right now in my DG game, and I think it's going rather well, but unless there's interest I'll save that story for another day. Anyway, they just published second ed of Stage, and as I sat here reading it, it dawned on me that the groups they're describing could be viable DG secret societies... Anyway, I thought I'd kick it out to you guys, so here's the URLs again: The Stage: http://www.mimgames.com/stage/ The Window: http://www.mimgames.com/window/ (pretty straightforward, huh? ;) Yuda ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:15:29 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Joseph Ellis Subject: Re: DG: RE: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars Hi, Panspermia, is a theory that I've seen fictionalised before, in the ever cheesy "Space: Above and Beyond". We find out that we are actually related to those Greys that were destroying our colonies, only that they 'evolved' faster in their part of space. This could be used as an additional layer to the Grey/Fun Guy cover up for DG Keepers. They (the Greys) do after all claim that human and Grey DNA is similar enough for it to be worth 'collecting'. If used, I'd insert this lie in between the "We are here peacefully one" and the "We are a construct race who are very desperate" one. Hope this sparks ideas. SJE "Sometimes I think that war is God's way of teaching us Geography." -Stephen Fry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:15:21 -0700 From: Christian Conkle Subject: RE: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) WAY off topic.. maybe. But I'd beg to differ. Watching Teletubbies is about the most serene, relaxing, mind-numbing thing you can hope to do. Hmm, on the other had, they DO have some really hallucenogenic trips from time to time ("Time for Teletubbies.. Time for Teletubbies.. Schwoo Schwoo Schwoo!"). Perhaps there should be a roll.. one to see if you gain back Sanity, and one to see if you lose Sanity. Big Hug! - ----------------------------------------------------- Christian Conkle Web Development Specialist Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory work: conklec@nwrel.org home: conkle@europa.com - ----------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: John P. Yuda [SMTP:jyuda@omegafinancial.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 2:39 AM > To: deltagreen@nocturne.org > Subject: Re: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) > > > Oh, and how much therapy do you figure watching Teletubbies will > provide? > > Watching Teletubbies should undoubtedly be another sanity loss. And > a pretty sizable one at that... > > *shudder* > > Yuda ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:36:28 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: Re: DG: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars >Panspermia is the theory that life on Earth was seeded from space >(bacteria-carrying comets--make sure your comets have all their shots). >One of the basic premises is this: if evolution is truly random then life >hasn't existed on earth long enough to account for the diversity we see. I >guess the idea isn't too well accepted. Anyway, it's all pretty good >fodder. [snip!] Yeah, this is one idea that Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramsinge have floated around for about the last 25-30 years. Biologically it's got a few flaws (like how do the bugs withstand UV-light, solar radiation, deep freezing for X-billion years, re-entry, impact, hostile atmospheres, etc.), but it's one of those hypotheses that has it's proponents because it soudns good and can't be disproven. Also note that Hoyle and Wickramsinge have proposed that 'flu pandemics come from space amd seem to correlate with sunspots (this is total cobblers as various virologists have pointed out at great length over the years, and if you look closely, the data falls apart as we have many more sunspots than 'flu pandemics, but still...). Personally, I wish that astronomers would stick to astronomy and leave the virology to us virologists [sigh!] For a much more interesting idea try reading "Invasion" by Robin Cook (which with a little work could be a perfect DG mini-campaign - especially as the plot gets totally ridiculous about 2/3 of the way through [e.g. "Oh look, it's a totally unguarded biological weapons research facility.. lets break in and try to find a cure". I mean, puhleese!]) or Fred Hoyle's classic "The Black Cloud". Still, that's my 2 pennies. Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu By the way, I'm back (and I didn't even need my brain surgey kit whilst in the UK!). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:27:44 EDT From: theherald@juno.com (Michael Layne) Subject: DG: Re: TV SAN Loss (was Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI)) On Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:03:27 -0700 Christian Conkle writes: > Speaking of Sanity Loss, I was watching SPEED tonight on FOX with my >girlfriend when, after it was over, they showed a commercial for the >Guiness >World Record Show. Now, I've never considered myself squeamish, and >I've >seen some cool stuff in my time, but when they showed rapid-fire shots >of >the world's fattest baby, a man swallowing a live tarantula, and then >that >horrible woman who could unpop her eyeballs out of her sockets and >roll them >around, I began screaming in revulsion and horror and quickly turned >off the >TV set! I was horribly shaken and lay panting as my other-half >alternatively >laughed and tried to comfort me. All the while, I couldn't SKAHE THE >IMAGE >OF THOSE HORRIBLE EYEBALLS! There must have been a good 3-4 minutes as >I >slowly recovered from the shock! > >I figured I'm about average POW, so I give myself a 10. Therefore, I >have 50 >SAN. I obviously failed my roll and took over 5 Sanity loss! Had I >taken >more, I may have lapsed into indefinite insanity! I must be more >careful >what I watch on TV and go back to good old, safe, Faces of Death >movies. > >Oh, and how much therapy do you figure watching Teletubbies will >provide? >Heh, I might allow that in my campaign. How about the Smurfs? I'd figure they would be a Lesser Independent Race, and that it would cost 1/1d6 SAN to see a Smurf. Barney is quite another matter! He is obviously a servant of Nyarlho, er, Narlho -- on, heck, you _know_ who I mean! It costs 1/1d10 SAN to see and/or hear Barney! (Of course, you regain that much SAN by destroying him!!) Not sure about Ewoks... Michael theherald@juno.com "Her Majesty's officers do not run from the enemy! However, it is sometimes tactically necessary to proceed to a new, more defensible, position... Very fast!" -- Major Hampton, 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys), upon encountering a huge herd of jackelopes. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:23:22 -0700 From: alank@shermanloan.com (Alan L. Krause) Subject: Re: DG: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars At 01:38 AM 7/23/98 -0400, Maninblack wrote: >Chance is the only factor in evolution. Evolution is defined as a process >of natural selection in which less well-adapted creatures die and >well-adapted creatures thrive. Daniel Harms replied: >Not to get too far off-topic, but evolution is not merely due to natural >selection. A number of other effects, including mutation (which may >be of a neutral nature), genetic drift (fluctuations in gene frequency between >generations), and gene flow (migration and interbreeding between >populations), also cause evolution, and are in fact much more powerful >than natural selection in the process. I think that the word 'chance' in the first paragraph is mainly referencing random genetic mutations from one generation to the next. IIRC, the mutation itself is normally a random mutation due to such factors as exposure to radiation, or a mRNA -> DNA duplication miscue. However the mutation occurred, natural selection will have a large degree in determining whether or not this modified individual will possibly pass this trait on to the next generation. I like to think of evolution as a blind, raving lunatic who tinkers with working models to produce new variatons, and then throwing these newer models out into the world to see how they do. 99.99% may die or be unable to reproduce, but that other .01% may produce some very interesting results. Please note that I am NOT a biologist, nor do I play one on TV. The above stuff has mainly been dredged up from my old AP biology memories, so if they are flawed, please forgive. Alan - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan L. Krause Network Administrator / Programmer Extraordinaire alank@shermanloan.com Sherman and Associates, Inc. "When all is said and done, more is said than done." -Unknown ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:48:21 -0700 From: Christian Conkle Subject: RE: DG: RE: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars Of a similar nature, there is UFO folklore that speak of an alien type called "the Nordics" or "Blondes" due to appearing as caucasian humans with blonde hair. They come from Sirius and are enslaved by the Greys. The Omnipotent Highness Krill report goes into detail on these. (http://www.europa.com/~conkle/cthulhu/krill.txt) as does the MJ-12 Briefing (http://www.europa.com/~conkle/cthulhu/mj12.txt). Some accounts say they are slaves of the Greys, others say they are at war with the Greys. Also, the aliens from the Pliedes are Blondes, possibly of the same species. Their contention is that homo sapiens are genetically related to these species. In a mythos context, perhaps the Elder Things, not of this Earth after all, engineered the evolution of homo sapiens on Earth, as they have done on many planets in the galaxy, to act as an alternative to the Shoggoths, perhaps leaving in their wake many planets with human or humanoid life (Protectors from Star Trek?). Maybe the Outer Ones (Fun Guys) have enslaved a few of these other human species, and fought with a few, and now Earth is next. I know that Wakeley said in his reports to Wilmarth (Whisperer in the Darkness) that they are benign to human affairs, but maybe Wakeley was only TOLD that. Hmmm... - ----------------------------------------------------- Christian Conkle Web Development Specialist Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory work: conklec@nwrel.org home: conkle@europa.com - ----------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Joseph Ellis [SMTP:sje1@st-andrews.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 8:15 AM > To: Delta Green List > Subject: Re: DG: RE: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars > > > Hi, > > Panspermia, is a theory that I've seen fictionalised before, in the ever > cheesy "Space: Above and Beyond". We find out that we are actually related > to those Greys that were destroying our colonies, only that they 'evolved' > faster in their part of space. > This could be used as an additional layer to the Grey/Fun > Guy cover up for DG Keepers. They (the Greys) do after all claim that > human and Grey DNA is similar enough for it to be worth 'collecting'. If > used, I'd insert this lie in between the "We are here peacefully one" and > the "We are a construct race who are very desperate" one. > > Hope this sparks ideas. > > SJE > > "Sometimes I think that war is God's way of teaching us Geography." > > -Stephen Fry > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:50:28 +0100 From: "Winkelman, Mark" Subject: RE: DG: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars I thought the element of chance in evolution is the combination of circunstances, e.g. muating a new skin collouration which will actually be useful and act as camolage for teh habitat you live in. Out on the savanna the zebra mutates stripes which provide camogfalge in the grass, the zebnot mutates luminous purple skin and promptly gets eaten and doesn't breed, thus the purple skin dies out. Mark Winkelmann ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:38:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "G. Wyckoff" Subject: Re: DG: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars > > Daniel Harms replied: > >Not to get too far off-topic, but evolution is not merely due to natural > >selection. A number of other effects, including mutation (which may > >be of a neutral nature), genetic drift (fluctuations in gene frequency > between > >generations), and gene flow (migration and interbreeding between > >populations), also cause evolution, and are in fact much more powerful > >than natural selection in the process. And Alan wrote: > > I think that the word 'chance' in the first paragraph is mainly referencing > random genetic mutations from one generation to the next. IIRC, the > mutation itself is normally a random mutation due to such factors as > exposure to radiation, or a mRNA -> DNA duplication miscue. > > However the mutation occurred, natural selection will have a large degree > in determining whether or not this modified individual will possibly pass > this trait on to the next generation. This is actually not specifically true. A biologist named Motoo Kimura put forth the idea that most, if not all, mutations at the molecular level are in fact "neutral". That is to say that the mutated copy doesn't do _anything_ differently from the non-mutated copy. So, in this case, the mutation will just "drift" through the population, eventually either going extinct or becoming the predominant (or only) form of the gene in the population. If the gene is neutral, the probablity it will fix (ie, be present in almost 100% of the individuals in a population) is equal to the original frequency of the mutation in the population. If there are 10,000 diploid individuals, and a mutation occurs on one chromosome, the probablity under a neutral model that it will fix is therefore about 1 in 20,000. A very small chance. So the smaller the population, the larger chance that drift will randomly fix a neutral mutation. Now, many molecular evolutionary biologists use this "neutral hypothesis" as a "null" model. The trick than is to prove that a gene that you are looking at is under selection: either positive selection that will increase a mutations frequency or negative selection which will tend to keep the gene mutation free. This is _not_ a trivial matter (trust me on this: I have spent so far about 3.5 years on my Ph.D. working on this), becuase the neutral model is _extremely_ robust and seems to explain evolution at the molecular level pretty well. So selection either to increase the frequency of a mutation or to smote the poor mutation from the face of the earth is not really frequent. However, the selection that most people _do_ find at the molecular level tends, in fact, to work _against_ new mutations: the mutations do not fix in the population. But a large percentage of the mutations that do arise either are neutral or _act_ as if they are in fact neutral. > > I like to think of evolution as a blind, raving lunatic who tinkers with > working models to produce new variatons, and then throwing these newer > models out into the world to see how they do. 99.99% may die or be unable > to reproduce, but that other .01% may produce some very interesting results. Probably even fewer that .01% of new mutations are actually selected for, the majority are probably neutral or nearly neutral, and the rest are deleterious (selected against). But a lot of mutations get by the tender minstrations of selection. > > Please note that I am NOT a biologist, nor do I play one on TV. The above > stuff has mainly been dredged up from my old AP biology memories, so if > they are flawed, please forgive. Well, hope this helps. :) Jerry Reference: Kimura, 1983 "The Neutral theory of Molecular evolution" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:49:33 +0900 From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes) Subject: Gorilla my dreams (was Re: DG: Alien in sex) > As for communication: Many possibilities exist in wildlife, many other forms >are possible, think of it! Ranges from changing colors to lowfrequency >communication and so on... >Some years ago a scientist taught a gorilla how to communicate in a new language >with her, I always asked myself what would happen if you taught a whole tribe of >gorillas, would they just forget....? or would they use it? I think so... Re: Primate communication. Although there seems to have been some success in teaching apes to communicate with pictograms and hand signs, the successes have primarily been in the area of semantic communication, which is to say that they have been taught words, not language. This in no way demeans such research, as semantic communication really is communication, but it lacks the syntactic structure that is required to have the benefits of full language. Syntax, so far, seems to be wholly a human achievement that gives us the ability to talk about things, actions, and situations that either existed in the past, will exist in the future, or have never existed at all, in a very structured manner. Semantic communication is more robust, and occurs in human language in those instances when contact languages (or pidgins) are formed between two cultures that do not share a common language: e.g. the Caribbean (sp?) pidgins that formed amoungst the slaves during the era of colonization (these later creolized into full languages, although they kept the label "pidgin", another story entirely. Another example of semantic communication is that used by "feral" children, who weren't given a chance to learn a language before puberty -- a time slightly before which the brain seems to alter to make it difficult to acquire semantics -- and who spend the rest of their life using semantic communication rather than full language. As for apes communicating amoung themselves, there have been reports of groups of apes using sign language with each other, but there hasn't really been a big enough group returned to a natural environment to see what would really happen. It _would_ be interesting though, and if anyone else has any further information on that particular subject, I would be happy to hear it. I did read a short story a long time ago about a group of apes in such a study who led a rebellion agaist the humans doing the research. Jay - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum Terry Pratchett, "Interesting Times" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:49:21 +0900 From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko Noyes) Subject: RE: DG: D. Skies etc >Speaking of Lovecraft Movies, I'm fortunate that I live in Portland, Oregon, >home of the annual Lovecraft Film Festival. Each October we are treated to a >collection of the best short films and one long film. Some of the most >faithful are the short ones, including "The Outsider" by some film-maker >from Chicago with whom I got drunk with afterwards, "The Music of Erich >Zann" which was perfectly done (almost word for word). The first year I got >to meet and speak to Jeffrey Combs, star of "The Reanimator", >"Necronomicon", "The Outsider" and now Weyoun on "DS9". Grr. Envy. > The second year I >got to meet those wonderful guys from Pagan and The Darkest of Hillside >Thickets (great band!). I've always been fond of "Six-Gun Gorgon Dynamo." And you get great reactions from people if you quietly sing Thickets' music in public. English-speaking public, that is. Most of the people around here would say "Ee? Nani? Wakaranai!" jay - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum Terry Pratchett, "Interesting Times" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:41:55 +0100 From: "Winkelman, Mark" Subject: DG: RE: Tubby lunacy A player in my campaign maintains that the Teletubbies is a post nuclear apocalyptic dystopian vision of the future. clearly the Tubbies are cybernetic (TVs in their stomach) and mutated (don't they look a bit like the mutants in Beneath the Planet of the Apes) they live in an underground bunker where their lives are controlled and coordinated by a computer (shades of the Paranoia RPG) they eat strange reprocessed food (Soylent pink is teletubbies). Mind you this friend of mine does actually go and buy tubby-toast for his breakfast at the weekend, every weekend. Hmmm, I've just checked with him and he gave me the following: "Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa Laa and Po are, of course, mutants. Generations of exposure to the after-effects of a nuclear holocaust, and subsequent genetic tinkering at the hands of what's left of Earth's masters, safe underground in their fallout shelters, have rendered them docile and weak- minded. The race of Teletubbies is nurtured with Tubbie-toast and Tubbie- custard, and from time to time a Teletubbie is culled to provide dietary variation for the hidden overseers." from Moose's webpage, and there's much more. This really isn't going to help anyone's deltagreen campaign. I am going to stop sending such rubbish after this. Mark Winkelmann >---------- >From: Christian Conkle[SMTP:ConkleC@nwrel.org] >Sent: 23 July 1998 16:15 >To: 'Delta Green List' >Subject: RE: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) > >WAY off topic.. maybe. > >But I'd beg to differ. Watching Teletubbies is about the most serene, >relaxing, mind-numbing thing you can hope to do. Hmm, on the other had, they >DO have some really hallucenogenic trips from time to time ("Time for >Teletubbies.. Time for Teletubbies.. Schwoo Schwoo Schwoo!"). Perhaps there >should be a roll.. one to see if you gain back Sanity, and one to see if you >lose Sanity. > > >Big Hug! > >----------------------------------------------------- >Christian Conkle >Web Development Specialist >Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory > >work: conklec@nwrel.org >home: conkle@europa.com >----------------------------------------------------- > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John P. Yuda [SMTP:jyuda@omegafinancial.com] >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 2:39 AM >> To: deltagreen@nocturne.org >> Subject: Re: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) >> >> > Oh, and how much therapy do you figure watching Teletubbies will >> provide? >> >> Watching Teletubbies should undoubtedly be another sanity loss. And >> a pretty sizable one at that... >> >> *shudder* >> >> Yuda > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:10:46 -0700 From: pkapera@juno.com Subject: Re: DG: D. Skies etc > I saw "The Mouth of Madness" recently: clear Lovecraft >influences but essentially a load of rubbish, are there any decent >Cthulu inspired films/tv? Well, there's "The Ressurected" (released on cable in the states a few years back and on video now), which is a pretty damn good translation of "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward". It was a pretty low-budget modern-day version, but don't let that get in the way of your watching it. Good stuff. Starring John Terry, Jane Sibbet, and Chris Sarandon! Directed by Dan O'Bannon (once lauded as the only man who could ever bring the original CoC story to the big screen properly). - P. Controlled chaos is cool. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:30:52 -0700 From: pkapera@juno.com Subject: Re: DG: computer viruses >>> Great stuff, that. Also, TUO had an article some time back about a >>Mythos >>> computer virus. Don't remember the details, though. But I like the >>idea of a >>> virus that slowly but inevitably reconfigures the computer into an >>alter to >>> some Old One or another, while simultaneously addicting the user >and >>> corrupting the mind. On Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:53:25 +0100 "Winkelman, Mark" writes: >You probably know it already but the adventure "Fractal Gods" concerns >such amtters its in "The Stars Are Right" which is generally a really >good collection of scenarios. > >Mark Winkelmann Nope. It was "The Swaner Virus", located in TUO #13, p. 17. - P. Controlled chaos is cool. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:24:37 -0700 From: Christian Conkle Subject: DG: RE: RE: Tubby lunacy For more Teletubby-DG connection, check out http://moose.spesh.com/teletubbies/secret.html. There are photos that clearly show a link between the Teletubbies and MJ-12. Teletubbies, Lesser Independent Race STR 2d6 CON 3d6 DEX 2d6 INT 1d6 EDU 1d6-2 POW 1d6 APP 3d6+3 Attacks: none Armor: none Spells: "Time for Teletubbies", same as Glass from Leng SAN loss: 1d6-3/2d6 Okay, I'll cease this madness now. - ----------------------------------------------------- Christian Conkle Web Development Specialist Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory work: conklec@nwrel.org home: conkle@europa.com - ----------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Winkelman, Mark [SMTP:Mark.Winkelman@daff.irlgov.ie] > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 9:42 AM > To: 'Delta Green List' > Subject: DG: RE: Tubby lunacy > > A player in my campaign maintains that the Teletubbies is a post nuclear > apocalyptic dystopian vision of the future. clearly the Tubbies are > cybernetic (TVs in their stomach) and mutated (don't they look a bit > like the mutants in Beneath the Planet of the Apes) they live in an > underground bunker where their lives are controlled and coordinated by a > computer (shades of the Paranoia RPG) they eat strange reprocessed food > (Soylent pink is teletubbies). > > Mind you this friend of mine does actually go and buy tubby-toast for > his breakfast at the weekend, every weekend. > > Hmmm, I've just checked with him and he gave me the following: > "Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa Laa and Po are, of course, mutants. Generations > of > exposure to the after-effects of a nuclear holocaust, and subsequent > genetic tinkering at the hands of what's left of Earth's masters, safe > underground in their fallout shelters, have rendered them docile and > weak- > minded. The race of Teletubbies is nurtured with Tubbie-toast and > Tubbie- > custard, and from time to time a Teletubbie is culled to provide dietary > variation for the hidden overseers." from Moose's webpage, and there's > much > more. > > This really isn't going to help anyone's deltagreen campaign. I am going > to stop sending such rubbish after this. > > Mark Winkelmann > > >---------- > >From: Christian Conkle[SMTP:ConkleC@nwrel.org] > >Sent: 23 July 1998 16:15 > >To: 'Delta Green List' > >Subject: RE: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) > > > >WAY off topic.. maybe. > > > >But I'd beg to differ. Watching Teletubbies is about the most serene, > >relaxing, mind-numbing thing you can hope to do. Hmm, on the other had, > they > >DO have some really hallucenogenic trips from time to time ("Time for > >Teletubbies.. Time for Teletubbies.. Schwoo Schwoo Schwoo!"). Perhaps > there > >should be a roll.. one to see if you gain back Sanity, and one to see if > you > >lose Sanity. > > > > > >Big Hug! > > > >----------------------------------------------------- > >Christian Conkle > >Web Development Specialist > >Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory > > > >work: conklec@nwrel.org > >home: conkle@europa.com > >----------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: John P. Yuda [SMTP:jyuda@omegafinancial.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 2:39 AM > >> To: deltagreen@nocturne.org > >> Subject: Re: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) > >> > >> > Oh, and how much therapy do you figure watching Teletubbies will > >> provide? > >> > >> Watching Teletubbies should undoubtedly be another sanity loss. And > >> a pretty sizable one at that... > >> > >> *shudder* > >> > >> Yuda > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:28:44 GMT0BST From: Robert Thomas Subject: Re: DG: Alien Evolution and the Correct Stars (Graeme Price) (wrote) > By the way, I'm back (and I didn't even need my brain surgey kit whilst in > the UK!). Most of us in the UK seem to have avoided brain surgery as well not that we've got anything to operate on its all shan ;-) Rob. J.R.E.Thomas. Science Library PC Room Advisor ext 6135 / 5128. MScII City and Regional Planning Student. ThomasR@cardiff.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:38:16 -0400 From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr." Subject: Re: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) > WAY off topic.. maybe. > > But I'd beg to differ. Watching Teletubbies is about the most serene, > relaxing, mind-numbing thing you can hope to do. Hmm, on the other had, they > DO have some really hallucenogenic trips from time to time ("Time for > Teletubbies.. Time for Teletubbies.. Schwoo Schwoo Schwoo!"). Perhaps there > should be a roll.. one to see if you gain back Sanity, and one to see if you > lose Sanity. > > Okay...I almost hate to open up this particular can of worms...but what are the Teletubbies and can we expect the MiB to be having a conversation with them anytime soon? I can almost imagine the dialog between them and Buzz.. > Big Hug! > And Skwunchdiddilyunchies to you too! - -Jim (who is probably beyond recovery now...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:02:43 -0400 From: "Eric Brennan" Subject: Re: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) Mr. Pop Culture doesn't know who the Teletubbies are? It's like a Barney for the pre-school set, with four elfin monstrousities doing various things that are interesting to the audience. I have to honestly say that I don't get it, but at that age I was really into more destructive acts than merely watching television. Some kids think it's great. (Little, little kids.) By the way, does anybody think we're raising a nation of wierdoes? I'm an "average" American, and it took hours upon hours of cheesy sitcoms (Night Court, for instance) and ultra-violent, jingoisitic cartoons and shows (A-Team, GI Joe, Transformers, Robotech) to forge me into the man I am today. Where are kids these days going to get that type of influence, surrounded by Beetle-Borgs and Ellen? Barney and the Teletubbies? I pity the fool... Sincerely, Agent WALLACE The Lord of free Real Estate Magnets that are on your fridge but you don't remember putting them there. aka Eric Brennan - -----Original Message----- From: Jimmie Bise, Jr. To: Delta Green List Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 1:51 PM Subject: Re: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) >> WAY off topic.. maybe. >> >> But I'd beg to differ. Watching Teletubbies is about the most serene, >> relaxing, mind-numbing thing you can hope to do. Hmm, on the other had, >they >> DO have some really hallucenogenic trips from time to time ("Time for >> Teletubbies.. Time for Teletubbies.. Schwoo Schwoo Schwoo!"). Perhaps >there >> should be a roll.. one to see if you gain back Sanity, and one to see if >you >> lose Sanity. >> >> > >Okay...I almost hate to open up this particular can of worms...but what are >the Teletubbies and can we expect the MiB to be having a conversation with >them anytime soon? > >I can almost imagine the dialog between them and Buzz.. > >> Big Hug! >> >And Skwunchdiddilyunchies to you too! > >-Jim (who is probably beyond recovery now...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:15:02 -0700 From: Christian Conkle Subject: RE: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) For the official story, go to http://www.pbs.org/teletubbies/ For the REAL story, go to http://wkweb4.cableinet.co.uk/alford/tubbtheo/tubbtheo.htm or http://moose.spesh.com/teletubbies/index.html or http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~palindrome/comedy/Tubby.htm There's aliens, a government cover-up, and insane Gods. DG material if'n I ever heard it. WAIT! I thought I was to end this madness! Aagh! IA! IA! Tinky Winky! Tinky Winky! - ----------------------------------------------------- Christian Conkle Web Development Specialist Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory work: conklec@nwrel.org home: conkle@europa.com - ----------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Jimmie Bise, Jr. [SMTP:jimmiebjr@olg.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 10:38 AM > To: Delta Green List > Subject: Re: DG: TV SAN Loss (wasRE: Re: useful documents (CIA, FBI) > > > WAY off topic.. maybe. > > > > But I'd beg to differ. Watching Teletubbies is about the most serene, > > relaxing, mind-numbing thing you can hope to do. Hmm, on the other had, > they > > DO have some really hallucenogenic trips from time to time ("Time for > > Teletubbies.. Time for Teletubbies.. Schwoo Schwoo Schwoo!"). Perhaps > there > > should be a roll.. one to see if you gain back Sanity, and one to see if > you > > lose Sanity. > > > > > > Okay...I almost hate to open up this particular can of worms...but what > are > the Teletubbies and can we expect the MiB to be having a conversation with > them anytime soon? > > I can almost imagine the dialog between them and Buzz.. > > > Big Hug! > > > And Skwunchdiddilyunchies to you too! > > -Jim (who is probably beyond recovery now...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 19:20:32 GMT0BST From: Robert Thomas Subject: Re: DG: Tellytubbies > >Okay...I almost hate to open up this particular can of worms...but what are > >the Teletubbies and can we expect the MiB to be having a conversation with > >them anytime soon? > > > >I can almost imagine the dialog between them and Buzz.. > > > >> Big Hug! > >> > >And Skwunchdiddilyunchies to you too! > > > >-Jim (who is probably beyond recovery now...) > Hello All, Tellytubbies are the result of the BBC looking to find a replacement for that classic childrens show Playdays now admittedly I'm 24 but I have been a student and what else am I supposed to do with my mornings! Anyway I bet you don't get them shown every bloody day at 10 in the morning, its worse for me you know my sisters a school teacher and so she tapes the bloody things and watches it at night when something else should be on! Can't we get a request in to MJ-12 via a round-about route for the sanctioning of the tellytubbies and the woman that created them! Yours old enough to remember proper childrens TV like Dangermouse, and Rhubarb and Custard anyone remember then? Rob J.R.E.Thomas. Science Library PC Room Advisor ext 6135 / 5128. MScII City and Regional Planning Student. ThomasR@cardiff.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:12:50 EDT From: SGlancy12@aol.com Subject: DG: Pagan Publishing Product Announcement Pagan Publishing will be releasing a limited printing book for GenCon: Machinations of the Mi-go Everything you never wanted to know about the "fun guys from yuggoth" but were not meant to know. 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