From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V1 #364 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Tuesday, March 16 1999 Volume 01 : Number 364 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:06:29 EST From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A bit on the Yakuza In a message dated 99-03-15 05:52:17 EST, you write: << I almost didn't believe this, but I should've known better. The paper yesterday carried a story about the newest big hit, "3 Dumpling Brothers on a Stick." It's about, well, 3 dumplings on a stick, a common snack, and how they're such good brothers because they've got a stick shoved through them a la Vlad the Impaler (synchronicity). It was just another song on an NHK (like the BBC, kind of) kids show, but it took off and is now the top seller in the country. The article went on to note that the same thing happened in the 70s with "Swim, Fish Cookie." >> When an animated rhinocerous starts pimping a snack food on Japanese TV, and the jingle goes platinum, we'll have come full circle. Of course, I'm still visualizing the daisy-chained Dumpling Brothers and trying to work in a Viagra theme. Hey, it's got a beat and you can dance to it. Mark McFadden Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. Must not sleep, rhinos will get me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:57:50 +0200 (TSI) From: "OIR : Otostopcunun Internet Rehberi" Subject: DG: DG : Bischofe : Gunther Staatsrat [INTRO] : He sometimes goes out at nights. To haunt the bars and discotheques around. You don't feel respect for him. Or pity. You think how can a man let himself turn into that shape. Bloated body shambles, as he barely moves. Even the slightest motion sends ripples across his veined skin which folds and folds on mounds of fat. One thing fills your heart when you see him. Disgust. Then comes hatred. He turns to you. In his eyes tenfolds of the disgust and hatred you felt resides. The amount crushes you. Never I saw a man who didn't flinch under his gaze. And only when you turn away from him, you realize. Not the foreigners or the newcomers, but the ones who know him stops laughing and talking. You sense the respect that their fear feed. Reputation feeds fear and it's in turn fed by whispers and rumours. "...I swear to you goddammit, he was just about to cum, and the one of his awful tatoos started to suck my breast...See here ? " One night he was too drunk. He wanted to show me his tattoos and took of his shirt. It was a bit dark but somewhere between his countless tattoos, I saw the face of dog. It barked to me all of a sudden. ...come on, dickhead. Yes, I was drunk but not that much..." He always wears the same green t-shirt with huge sweat marks at armpits. He smells of sweat, vomit, blood and vodka. Some say they can get his smell minutes before him. He knows a lot of people and known by all the big asses of the city. He's called The Pig. "One time he's talking to you, then the other, a bloody bite mark appears on his arm." Sometimes I see a dwarf black woman leave his room. Her tattoo is on his back. When I was naive I wondered how she got around him. Then one day I saw the tatoo blink." In the cold Russian nights of Stalingrad, vodka flows. His wrath comes in many forms. Strange beings walk the streets in the cold Russian nights of Stalingrad. [BACKGROUND] : Gunther Staatsrat was the son of Rudolph Staatsrat, an important politician in National Socialist Party. Gunther still remembers several visits of Adolph Hitler to their house. He patted his father's back, smiled at his mother. He even asked Gunther about what he think about war. He answered, "War is an opportunity for the strong to get rid of the weak." Such a laughter he caused. That night he loved the Fuhrer. Gunther is an educated man and has been in many European countries. He speaks several European languages and Russian. Life was bright and happy for him. But all changed when he registered to the Army. Because of his father he could have a nice and comfortable position in the army but he rejected. He was young and heroic. He had young ladies to impress. Gunther was assigned to a Sixth Army engineer squad. Then, white turned to black. Light to darkness. In the winter of '42 Sixth Army was besieged in Stalingrad by Russian forces. Once the proud and rich son of Staatsrat family, now under the falling snow and Russian shells stole his friend's ration. Once the charming and enjoyable gentleman of ballrooms, killed a wounded soldier because he couldn't stand his moaning. What he lived in Stalingrad on December '42 killed his soul. It was like soaking red hot steel in ice cold water. He's hardened to the limit, but lost the light in him. In December 19 as a part of Winter Tempest offensive, the trapped Sixth Army in Stalingrad started the Thunderclap operation. They were to breakthrough and meet with the German forces coming to rescue them. Gunther and his engineers team went under the city to search an escape route in the sewers. Over them General der Panzertruppe Friedrich von Paulus decied to give a chance to the Thulegesselschaft members in his army. They initiated the first use of the resussicated casualties against the advancing Russian infantry. But what made the Russians flee in horror, brought some unexpected visitors. The charming smell of rotting flesh pulled the Ghouls. Gunther and his team were ambushed in the sewers. He managed to escape, but only to the deeper underground. He came across to an opening encircled by stones bearing carved symbols. As the cries of his man ceased and meepings of ghouls drew closer, he took a step into that opening. He returned back from that opening 40 years later covered with tattoos. [TATTOO MAGICK] : He found himself in a cold plateu away from Stalingrad He doubted even if he is in Russia. Wind howled and tribals emerged. For countless years he's tortured by the disfigured and fearsome men of this alien plateu. They made tattoos of creatures on him. In his dreams he's chased by those creatures. They caught him and bit, clawed, shredded not his flesh but his soul. He managed to stand against them. He opened his soul to their fangs. His soul accepted them and they accepted him. In anger the tribals tattooed him more. He mastered them all. After uncountable time of slavery, he's freed with respect. [TODAY] : 40 years after WW II, he emerged once again in Stalingrad. He hid his tattoos as best as he could and used his newly gained power to adapt the changed world. At first he killed to survive. He needed time. As his tattoos claimed many victims, he got fatter and fatter. He quickly made his way deep into Organyzatzia and became a feared more than respected member. Once again things changed when he killed a Karotechia Ritter. Reinhard Galt, himself came to Russia to inspect the situation personally. Galt tracked the Ritter`s killer and found Gunther. After their bloody confrontation Galt nearly escaped death. Impressed, Galt took a more diplomatic action and so, Gunther learned about Karotechia. Gunther by the help of the ghouls started to dig for fallen soldiers of Sixth Army. The corpses sent to La Estancia. Galt persuaded others for raising Gunther to the Bischofe status. He was German, Hitler`s friend`s son, successful and powerful. Gunther was called to La Estancia. Karotechia was excited about the tattoos and Gunther should be thaught about the ways of Karotechia. The abnormally fat man caused great shock at La Estancia. He was beyond all acceptable anatomic aesthetics. Although he was granted for Bischofe status, Gunther understood that it would be better if he conducts his business personally. He returned to Russia. [HAVE YOU FED YOUR TATTOOS LATELY ?] : The tattoos are living creatures imprisoned in the victim`s skin to devour his soul. Gunther`s will was so strong that he managed to suppress them for some extent. Though he should set them free occasionally to let them feed upon other humans. This is quite a painful expereince. Hence the creatures are imprisoned in his skin, they took a patch of skin everytime they leave. This is why he can not send more than a few creatures at the same time. The tattoo creatures are immune to all non magical weapons but the patch of skin is not. The only way to destroy them is to harm the skin they are imprisoned. They left a messy carcass of the victim behind them. The eaten parts are digested by Gunther when the creatures return. That`s why he never eats, his tattoos eat more than he needs. He sometimes loses his control over them. Especially when he is drunk or angry. In those times, tattoos can be seen moving across his body, biting his flesh and extending a claw or tail outside. Normally a person who is as fat as Gunther can not carry his own weight but Gunther is carried by his tattoos. He`s strong and fast. Seeing him move in this manner is a hell of a surprise. [END] Tolga >from Istanbul. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:18:37 +0900 From: "David Farnell" Subject: DG: GF: Arm Reattachment Surgery >Will be necessary if you shoot the pistol version--without a doubt THE >most powerful handgun in the world... > > http://www.prairienet.org/guns/big/mg.htm Matthew D. Hutzell Sent to me by a good friend of mine--definitely a gunfondler's wet dream. (The guns, I mean, not my friend.) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:25:33 -0500 (EST) From: The Man in Black Subject: RE: DG: Mythos Vampires 1 (long) On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, David Farnell wrote: > all the details, politics, etc from V:tM is distracting--at least in my > kind of CoC campaign. But I was trying to design these vamps to be > easily modified, as all that stuff could be added back in easily if you > wanted. By introducing the intrigue from the beginning, you allow a smoother transition to a regular vamp game should you run one of those later on. > Losing 1d6 per day may be a little high--I'll have to playtest it. I estimate that fresh spawn would have to feed every two to three days, (if not every day), and elders with (30-40 POW) would have to feed maybe every week. > And the Diablerie Ritual was just for flavor, I'll admit--it's not > really necessary. It is if more than one lick is going to benefit from the blood of elders. The Tremere have a ritual called Bitter Rose, where the heart is ground up and devoured by all. It's a secret, don't tell 'em I told you. > In CoC, you might have to boost STR by 7, 8 points or more to get a > higher damage bonus. So? Too bad for them. You can say that they can only spend up to their POW on all four combined stats, that's a bit more generous. Note that WWGS has stated that you cannot go above generation stat limits with blood. I ignore this rule, it's 5 dots or double your original score. I don't quite understand the rule at the end > there--do boosted attributes last 1d6 turns, or do vamps make a POWx3 > roll--and what does the POW roll determine? The boosted attributes last for 1d6 turns. Only the Keeper knows the exact duration for sure. The POWx3 roll is in case the vamp wants to take a turn concentrating on "feeling the burn" in order to guess how long the blood boosted stats will last. > Another good idea. I think I'll stick with an increase of 1 POW per 10 years > (or incident of Diablerie--and that's actually how I had it originally, but > that increase was too wimpy combined with the Life Point system), but if you > use the vamps as PCs, you'll have to have some quicker increase so the > players have a carrot to chase. There's always Diablerie, but the punishment > is too high. Add some stronger limitations (like the greater damage from > sunlight) and it should balance out. There are other ways to get POW besides Diablerie, Mythos ways... Also, Mythos vamps should not get POW just by aging. That's just too easy. The POW bonus from aging should represent number of humans killed by exsanguination, and the accumulation of blood, and general exposure to weirdness that happens when you're dead. It should be random. perhaps roll a d6 for every 10 years, on a 4 add a POW, on a 5 add two POW, on a 6 add three POW, on a 1 *subtract* a POW (slow year). > Oh, sure, you and Mark are right--now that I look back, I see I left out the > line in my notes that this is just one of many kinds of vamps. I also wanted > to have the ones from KULT--very alien types. You mean the ones from Rifts? :) > Heh heh. Vampires are free to experiment. This could be a source of new > mutations of vampires. And what about a vamp taking the Unspeakable Oath? The word for "new mutation" in the WWGS Lexicon is "bloodline." MUAHAHAHA! The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum [3.3.3.3.3.3] [Girard was Right!] [the sphere tesselates] [5d4/1d20 = the star of time] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:37:01 -0500 (EST) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: unknown batceria species (fwd) On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, Andrew D. Gable wrote: > The researchers noted that termite bellies should not be ignored, as many new > species of bacteria have been discovered by studying what lives inside the > insects' guts. Wasn't there a guys in the Hot Zone who would keep termites in his lab freezer and munch on 'em like sunflower seeds? Mmmmmm... Chew Germs... The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum [3.3.3.3.3.3] [Girard was Right!] [the sphere tesselates] [5d4/1d20 = the star of time] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Mythos Vampires 1 (long) On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 LizardRoi@aol.com wrote: > Dean R. Koontz goes into the details of a rare genetic disorder that makes > exposure to sunlight AND electric light dangerous and cumulatively deadly in > "Fear Nothing." Cancers, blindness, etc., etc., but without albinism. Sounds like Porphyria (SP?) or something. Light sensitivity, gum necrosis (thus "fangs"), etc... The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum [3.3.3.3.3.3] [Girard was Right!] [the sphere tesselates] [5d4/1d20 = the star of time] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:02:06 PST From: "Adam Marler" Subject: DG: Der Thule Gesellschaft Does anyone happen to have any info about Der Thule Gesellschaft? Or can point me in the direction of some good links? This may turn into something for Emerald Hammer, but Im not quite sure yet. - -------------------------------------------------- __ (oO) "Brevis esse laboro, obscurus fio" /||\ "Illegitimis Non Carborundum" - -------------------------------------------------- Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: Cyber Vampires of the Lost Decade~! On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, David Farnell wrote: > Anyhow, this sourcebook was one of a series of "spooky" supplements for > Cyberpunk (or whatever game it was). I had a couple of supplements like this with a dreaming AI before I sold off my non-GURPS CyberPunk. I think these were from Atlas Games or the precursor to Dream Pod 9, or perhaps some gnarled and fleshy eidolon of the two companies, intertwined in inchoate eternal evil. Then again, maybe it's Nightshift? The RPG where the World of Insufficient Light meets CyberPunk 2020? The Man in Black is : unsure which paragraph above has the scarier text. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum [3.3.3.3.3.3] [Girard was Right!] [the sphere tesselates] [5d4/1d20 = the star of time] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:04:25 EST From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: DG: Tales From The White Hart As you can tell from the close resemblance of The Green Box to Callahan's Place, I'm a sucker for the bar story sub-genre. And the White Hart is the place that got me started. Some of the stories could be easily adapted to DG, such as: 1) The engineering and logistical project to turn off an "anti-gravity" device in the Australian desert. Substitute glyphs for black box (or not) and you've got MJ-12 doing a very difficult salvage operation. 2) The Osmotic Bomb! 3) The device for countering any ambient sound with a tone precisely out of phase, resulting in perfect silence. With an unforseen technical glitch. Incidentally, the technique is used in high-end pilot's headphones to eliminate cabin noise. Clarke once again decades ahead. 4) The California vs Florida Chambers of Commerce operation involving the fake iceberg got me thinking about open sea camo. Does normal satellite IMINT track the movement of icebergs? What does a surfaced sub pushing a hollow 'iceberg' sound like to the SOSUS array? Does the Karotechia know about this? I also loved the White Hart's location: convenient to universities and the government/military research going on there, and to publishing houses. A nice eclectic bunch of regulars. If PISCES doesn't have a man there every night, collecting HUMINT and casing possible recruits, they are slacking. I like the idea of Harry being a kind of agent provocateur, telling tall tales and creating an "I can top that" dynamic. "What did you think o' Harry's story? I thought it was fookin' daft. Is it my round?" "Well, he got some of it right........shite. Uh, forget I said anything will you? I'm half-pissed." "Say no more, say no more. A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat, eh? You ready for another of the same? (pause) So...your job. Is it a goer? Know-what- I-mean, Know-what-I-mean nudge nudge wink wink? Oooo, wicked! Eh? Eh?" Mark "Snapper" McFadden ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 03:01:15 +0100 (CET) From: alex@bofh.torun.pl (Janusz A. Urbanowicz) Subject: Re: DG: Mythos Vampires 1 (long) > Hello All, > > > In a message dated 3/13/99 2:59:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > mib@cyberspace.org writes: > > > > << Mythos vampires should have *many* possible origins, like superheroes. > > Botched sorcery, star vampire virii, possession by crazed spirits, and > > alien parasitism are all good possibilities. Perhaps it's some spooky > > combo of all of the above. >> > > Mark then replied: > > > Purely biological origins for 'Ghoulism' have been batted around this list, > > I'm all for trotting them out for Vampires as well. > > Personally I always liked the approach to "an" origin of vampirism I > came across in of all things a Star Trek novel. Chemical / > Biological weapons researchers come up with a disease vector whose > symptoms manifest as classic vampirism, the need to drink blood, > hyper sensitivity to light etc. The 'benefits' of vampirism strength There IS such a disease. It is called 'porphyrism' (sp ?) and its symptoms are: white skin, oversensitivity to sunlight etc. AFAIR it is a genetical disease. Probably Graeme could elaborate. > Perhaps Graeme would like to offer some hypothesis on vampirism's > possible biological origins. I am currently (still) running a scenario where vampires invade city and the players are the one aware that there is something wrong. The public thinks it is our town's first serial killer. The point is that the vampires are humans who had contact with an Mythos being, which leaved a 'trail' - a slimy parasite (little similarity to MESSIAH described in ADG.RM-0077 ("The Miracle")), that slowly replaces his host tissue giving him extraordinary powers (strength, speed and mind-control, and some others). This creature is known to local counterpart of DG as BLOODWORM, and is _purely_ biological. Grown-in BLOODWORM has some nervous system, its primary task is to force host to drink blood which is BLOODWORMs food. BWs aren't sentient, their hosts remain sentient, but BWs needs influence is noticeable. BWs host doesn't grow fangs, nor tongue sting. If anyone interested in details I intend to write full report for posting on the list (and I thought of submitting it for the DG Web) but I have to refresh my Write English skill, and get some free time (I have to embed some attractors for my MSc thesis RSN). Alex PS> I remember I promised to summarize a book, too. - -- * | Janusz A. "Alex" Urbanowicz, \ Home: --+~| | http://eris.phys.uni.torun.pl/~alex/ \ Work: `_|/ | \____ RSA: 512/0xAB425659 | | Dog needs home. Eats everything. Loves children. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:27:50 +0100 From: G_H_O@t-online.de (Mein Name) Subject: Re: DG: Mythos Vampires 1 (long) Moinmoin, I can understand your view of "The Omega Man"! One site you could find some Mythos Vampires would be the "Opifex Bi-monthly Random Universes" by Michael LaBossiere, which can be found at http://user.aol.com/ontologist/web/opifex.obm.html Somewhere on this site is a link to the older issues of it, in which you will find Wood Vampires, Old Aztec Vampires,...... Currently I´m running "The Hum" from issue 17 and with some luck: I´LL FINALLY INTRODUCE DG WITH OR WITHOUT THE SOURCEBOOK! If the link isn´t correct anymore (My old HD with it crashed about a week ago), i´ve found it via http://www.rpg.net. Bye then, Heiko (GF#5) - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: LizardRoi@aol.com Betreff: Re: DG: Mythos Vampires 1 (long) > That was also Richard Matheson's take in "I Am Legend" (made into movies as >"The Last Man On Earth" and "The Omega Man"). His 'secular' vampires are >probably the template for the Marvel Universe vamps and most every other sci- >fi explanation for vampirism. >Mark McFadden >"The chicks don't know > but the little boys > understand" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:02:41 EST From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: DG: Vampirism:Not porphyria In a message dated 3/15/99 3:51:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << Sounds like Porphyria (SP?) or something. Light sensitivity, gum necrosis (thus "fangs"), etc... >> Just got home and looked it up. The condition Koontz writes about is xeroderma pigmentosum - XP for short - a rare and frequently fatal genetic disorder. Quote: "XP victims are acutely vulnerable to cancers of the skin and eyes. Even brief exposure to sun--indeed, to any ultraviolet rays, including those from incandescent and fluorescent lights--could be disastrous for me. "All human beings incur sunlight damage to the DNA in their cells, inviting melanoma and other malignancies. Healthy people possess a natural repair system: enzymes that strip out the damaged segments of the nucleotide strands and replace them with undamaged DNA. "In those with XP, however, the enzymes don't function; the repair is not made. Ultraviolet-induced cancers develop easily, quickly--and metastasize unchecked. (snip) "Fewer than a thousand Americans have XP, and fewer than a hundred are born with it each year. (snip) "A handful of XPers are older than I am, a few significantly older, though most if not all of them suffered progressive neurological problems associated with their disorder. tremors of the head or hands. Hearing loss. Slurred speech. Even mental impairment. "Except for my need to guard against the light, I am as normal and whole as anyone. I am not an albino. My eyes have color. My skin is pigmented. Although certainly I am paler than a California beach boy, I'm not ghost-white. The UV damage is cumulative, like exposure to X-rays. XP is no smoking gun pointing to vampirism, but it does illustrate another mechanism for making sunlight toxic. The character had to put on heavy-duty sunscreen and 100% UV proof shades and wear long sleeves to enter a hospital at night. The fluorescents. Mark McFadden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:52:12 EST From: DHammann@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Der Thule Gesellschaft There is a very well researched book called THE OCCULT ROOTS OF NAZISM, which you can find in the German history section of Borders. Anything from the occult section will be unreliable. Here is some of my own information. In the late 19th century Theosophy was the major occult influence in Germany, but by the early Twentieth century had made many splits. Those Theosophists who believed in Christian mysticism turned to Rudolf Steiner and the Anthroposopy Gesellschraft. Those who preferred eastern mysticism turned to Mazdaznan. There was a large Mazdaznan cult in the Bauhaus school. The Theosophists who preferred to study Hermetic magic turned to the OTO or Ordo Templi Orientis. Thanks to Aleister Crowley, even the OTO split into other smaller occult groups. Then German nationalist and racists turned to Guido von List who created his own Aryan Theosophy, or Ariosophy. Members of the List Gesellschaft formed their own Ariosophic secret societies, including one in Berlin called the Germanenorden. An occultist named Baron Sebbottendorf formed another sister society of the Germanenorden in Munich after WWI called the Thule Gesellschaft. The Ariosophic groups like Thule were very dangerous because they were fronts for counterrevolutionary militia, terrorist and assassination activity. Their leadership also consisted of German upper class snobs with little popular support. The Thule funded the German Workers Party to try to gather some proletarian support, and Hitler stole it away from them. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:33:18 -0800 From: Phil A Posehn Subject: Re: DG: Tales From The White Hart Hi, It's great to know someone appreciates the classics! I've actually run the one where the formless mass that seems to defy gravity and have a mind of its own turns out to be a large swarm of bees...with wonderful results! Phil ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:13:02 -0000 From: Ward Phil Subject: DG: RE: EH Fiction: optional PISCES problem sidebar. Mmm, nice, I'm sure Rob won't mind :) "..Young Charlie Higson..." , I wonder do we know what we're letting ourselves in for when the UK brigade play this :) OK guys, I'm back, and ready for action, after a short break in sunny but flooded Paris, let's get some EH work in so I can start to put things up on the site, I'm talking to myself too of course (after all, I am in the UK...). Let's see what we can do :) Later Phil Ward DG-GF 2/1 and E-H StandartenUnterGruppefuehrer > -----Original Message----- > From: Stabernide - [SMTP:stabernide_@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 2:09 PM > To: deltagreen@nocturne.org > Subject: DG: EH Fiction: optional PISCES problem sidebar. > > For Emerald Hammer;- a nice optional sidebar to explain why and how > PISCES might get involved even if they all have giant bugs in their > heads and want to plunge the planet into nuclear chaos. Apologies to Rob > for using the names of some Emerald Grotto characters without asking him > first. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:49:00 -0000 From: Ward Phil Subject: RE: DG: Re: Aum Shinrikyo (long) Forgotten, you have, the first F.O.E. Hall-of-Famer and three times winner of outstanding-villain-of-the-year: [Ominous pause] the Hooded CLAW! "Curses, I'll get you next time Penelope Pit-stop" ...A-hem. So, do people like individual master-minds for their cult leaders and fonts of all evil, or do we find that insidious and small prevailing evil is more effective for our simulation exercise. The former is good for quick ready-to-eat adventures, but the latter is better for showing off the hopelessness of DG's actions in the face of the ever-approaching end-times when we will all kill and revel in depravity under the eyes of the Great Old One's. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: The Man in Black [SMTP:mib@cyberspace.org] > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 1999 11:08 PM > To: Delta Green List > Subject: Re: DG: Re: Aum Shinrikyo (long) > > On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, G M wrote: > > > This is also recommended as SOP for a pesky member of Her Majesty's > Secret > > Service who always manages to pop up when it's most irratating for heads > of > > major terrorist or criminal organizations. > > Ah yes, Mr. Bond. I often thought he would make an excellent addition > to... > > (ominous fanfare) > > ... S.P.E.C.T.R.E. > > (another ominous fanfare) > > > obDG: Whenever one of you keepers create a leader you want to be a > > particullarly nasty bast-ahd, be sure he does *not* follow the > > proscribed Evil Overlord blunders...have this demonstrated on a group of > > frindlies or another cell. > > WHAT! Have you no respect for TRADITION! For the excellence of craft that > villains strive for in the perfection of evil! You need to attend the > F.O.E. lecture series entitled "I'll get you next time!" presented by... > > (yet another ominous fanfare) > > ... M.A.D. luminary Dr. Claw. > > (FOE lecture series 006-009 available on videocassette, DVD and CD-ROM for > only $55,555 in one dollar bills buried in your backyard between those two > oak trees. All charges are final and non-refundable. Offer valid in 49 > states, SOOORRRY Tennessee!) > > The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins > Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum > [3.3.3.3.3.3] [Girard was Right!] > [the sphere tesselates] [5d4/1d20 = the star of time] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:25:06 GMT0BST From: Robert Thomas Subject: DG: FOE / SW / EH / WTFDTM > Forgotten, you have, Star Wars fever getting to you Phil? Loved the EH story BTW no problem about the NPCs either I'm going to have to come up with some more I think and do some more work on EH which has slid a bit recently in the words of another minor 'real world' bit of evil: "lets go to work" Rob. J.R.E.Thomas. ThomasR@cardiff.ac.uk Our kind. Us people. All of us that started the game with a crooked cue, that wanted so much and got so little, that meant so good and did so bad. Jim Thompson 'The Killer Inside Me' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:01:43 +1100 From: "Matt Stewart" Subject: DG: Re:Mythos vamps/Recommended reading Evening all For an alternate source for vampires you could do worse than check out Brian Lumley's 'Necroscope' series.It was a few years since I read it but I recall the vampires in that were psuedo-Lovecraftian..all amorphous and icky.The series also had a lot of interesting uses for psis in the various secret services.The writing wasnt Shakespeare but the ideas were pretty cool. Possibly the DG vamps might be off-cuts from MJ-12's Sub project BOUNCE?MJ-12 has reproduced the vampiric process that has occurred throughout history as some kind of Mythos-related event?What happens when the old vamps meet MJ-12's Turbo Vampire Alpha? Matt (Prefers his vampires looking like Salma Hayek a la Dusk till Dawn) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:49:59 -0000 From: Ward Phil Subject: DG: RE: Cyber Vampires of the Lost Decade~! I'm pretty sure it was cyberpunk, and I have one in a series of three adventure, which I believe had non-vampire cybered PC's waking up at night with a terrible interest in blood. Is anyone interested enough for me to go and dig them out of the attic? Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: The Man in Black [SMTP:mib@cyberspace.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 12:02 AM > To: Delta Green List > Subject: DG: Cyber Vampires of the Lost Decade~! > > On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, David Farnell wrote: > > > Anyhow, this sourcebook was one of a series of "spooky" supplements for > > Cyberpunk (or whatever game it was). > > I had a couple of supplements like this with a dreaming AI before I sold > off my non-GURPS CyberPunk. I think these were from Atlas Games or the > precursor to Dream Pod 9, or perhaps some gnarled and fleshy eidolon of > the two companies, intertwined in inchoate eternal evil. > > Then again, maybe it's Nightshift? The RPG where the World of Insufficient > Light meets CyberPunk 2020? > > The Man in Black is : unsure which paragraph above has the scarier text. > Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum > [3.3.3.3.3.3] [Girard was Right!] > [the sphere tesselates] [5d4/1d20 = the star of time] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:52:08 -0500 From: "Eric Brennan" Subject: DG: Re: RE: Cyber Vampires of the Lost Decade~! - -----Original Message----- From: Ward Phil To: Delta Green List Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 9:14 AM Subject: DG: RE: Cyber Vampires of the Lost Decade~! >I'm pretty sure it was cyberpunk, and I have one in a series of three >adventure, >which I believe had non-vampire cybered PC's waking up at night with a >terrible interest in blood. Is anyone interested enough for me to go and dig >them out of the attic? > >Phil These were the Night's Edge adventures for CP2020, which used the Night's Edge sourcebook and Grimm's Cybertales. They were released by Janus games (or alternatively on one book, Ianus..same thing in classical latin) which was the predecessor of Dream Pod Nine. Some good ideas, some bad ideas...a mixed bag with a lot of potential for those looking for horror-cyberpunk. Along with the "World of Future Darkness" articles in White Wolf magazine, (written by Dierdre Brooks, if memory serves, not related to the Janus stuff in anyway) they allowed a lot of cross germination between CP2020 and the WoD, if you wanted to kludge. The WoFD articles used Storyteller stats and the Night's Edge stuff used CP. A game-hacker's dream. Interestingly, an issue of Interface (I can look up which one once I get home) had a lot of Call of Cthulu/CP crossover stuff at one point, including Mythos-cyberware. I still haven't seen GURPS Cthulupunk, but the GURPS Cyberworld setting left me cold after the inspired insanity of R. Tal's Cyberpunk, and I heard it was Cyberworld with the Mythos. Anybody know anymore? By the way CP fans, imagine Rache Bartmoss as a Mythos investigator...what do you lose when your sanity is gone already? --a very tired Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:28:24 -0500 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: Re: DG: RE: EH Fiction: optional PISCES problem sidebar. Phil wrote: >"..Young Charlie Higson..." , I wonder do we know what we're letting >ourselves in for when the UK brigade play this :) I think we know _exactly_ what will happen. Viz.: "Ohh! Suits you, sir. Is he a large man, sir? Are you are large man, sir? Are you sir? Like the ladies, sir? Can't get enough of you can they, sir? Ohh! Suits you, sir!" etc. etc. Later Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:07:22 +0900 (JST) From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko ) Subject: RE: DG: A bit on the Yakuza >I almost didn't believe this, but I should've known better. The paper >yesterday carried a story about the newest big hit, "3 Dumpling Brothers on >a Stick." It's about, well, 3 dumplings on a stick, a common snack, and how >they're such good brothers because they've got a stick shoved through them a >la Vlad the Impaler (synchronicity). It was just another song on an NHK >(like the BBC, kind of) kids show, but it took off and is now the top seller >in the country. The article went on to note that the same thing happened in >the 70s with "Swim, Fish Cookie." Ah, Dango San Kyodai. It's making fun of the resemblance between the words "dango" (dumplings) and "tango" (the dance). The words rhyme in Japanese. Naturally, it's sung to a tango beat. It's cute, and, therefore, irresistable to Japanese. God, I need a way out of this country. Jay - ------------------------------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." Dave Barry, _Twenty-five Things I have Learned in Fifty Years_ - ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:37:57 EST From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Aum Shinrikyo (long) In a message dated 99-03-16 06:51:11 EST, you write: << the Hooded CLAW! >> Or, for us Get Smart fans: Craw? No! Not Craw. C..raw. You know (makes clawing gesture) C...raw. That's what I said, Craw. No! Not Craw! C...raw. Craw. Craw! Now you're saying it. I am not! Minions? Jawohl! Yes! Ja! Da! Si! Mark McFadden Diehard Buck Henry fan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:50:42 EST From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A bit on the Yakuza In a message dated 99-03-16 12:10:23 EST, you write: << "dango" (dumplings) and "tango" (the dance). >> When I was in Spain a short time later, apparently "Last Tango in Paris" had struck some cultural chord. I don't speak Spanish (yet), but you get the joke anyhow when a stick of butter is the recurring prop. There were no less than three nightclubs in Palma de Majorca with a major musical number with butter and conga lines as the dominant theme. Hehe, winter in Palma, and apparently every 20ish babe (do only the hotties know about Southern Spain or something?) in Europe has a vacation about then. One week off and a relentless Spring Break determination to have fun before time's up. And a US aircraft carrier anchors in the harbor. Can you say critical mass? Mark McFadden If you live long enough, you'll have nothing but good memories. For the life of me, I can't remember what work I did in the daytime. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 17:49:49 +0100 From: G_H_O@t-online.de (Heiko Aulbach) Subject: DG: Estonia If some of you still remember the Estonia incident some years ago, where a ferrie (spelling?) sunk due to "leaking cargo doors". Well today there was a newsflash about the Estonia: According to them, the Estonia was sunk by a russian millitary agency to prevent the russian mafia from smuggling great amounts of illegal weaponry. Have there been any Nukes stolen lately? Bye then, Heiko (GF#5) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:02:10 +0100 From: G_H_O@t-online.de (Heiko Aulbach) Subject: DG: Estonia Do you still remember the Estonia? It _was_ sunk in July(?) 1994 on it´s way toStockholm(?), (sorry, but I missed a few details) killing 852 people. Today there was a TV feature which made some interessting claims about that incident: - -The Swedish agency that should have solved the puzzle, why it sunk withholds information from te crash(?)site. - -Recently a Videotape with part of the withheld data was given to one of the lawyers concerned with the rights of the victims´ relatives, showing explosive packages near the place, the hole in the ship´s body is assumed to be. - -Some passengers who´s cabins were below the carlevel claimed that water came from _below their_ cabins, which would have been impossible if water had only entered through the car ramp. Based on this, some members of the comission assumed that there must have been a hole in the right side (looking forward) of the ship, at the lowest level. - -The producers of the feature offered two possibilities, who placed the packages there: -A mafia clan from Estland, to damage their russian counterpart -Or by the russian millitary, to prevent the smuggling of russian hi-tech weaponry (what was that about missing Nukes?) These claims were supported by the videotape, some survivors, unnamed russian agents (They brought the Estland-theory up) and some members of the comission, which stated that there was data withhold. Bye then, Heiko (GF#5) ------------------------------ End of deltagreen-digest V1 #364 ********************************