From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V2 #2 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Monday, July 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:00:02 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A very disturbed thought In a message dated 99-07-16 06:26:55 EDT, you write: << And now we arrive to the most suspicious item: her huge hit song, MY HEART WILL GO ON (#4) >> My Heart Will Go On (After I'm Dead) Bumbum bumbum bumbum........ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 00:12:58 EDT From: CobaltZero@aol.com Subject: DG: Eyes Wide Shut Did anyone else get a creepy feeling thinking about either the King in Yellow or Shub-Niggurath during the orgy scene, or was it just me? Good stuff. Nice Delta Green fare, I'd imagine. brent. man on fire ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:16:55 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A very disturbed thought In a message dated 7/16/99 9:03:46 PM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: << My Heart Will Go On (After I'm Dead) Bumbum bumbum bumbum........ >> I always wondered about the secret of her singing style. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:18:07 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Austrian Mythos In a message dated 7/16/99 8:55:07 PM Central Daylight Time, shepherd@infocom.com writes: << Finally, the light at the end of the tunnel. . . . heh, heh, heh! Nightstar >> Tellme, dop you see the light BEFORE you hear the locomotive's horn? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:28:33 -0700 From: raven@mocha.iceinternet.com (Collins James D./Sarah H. Wood) Subject: DG: The War of the Worlds Hello: Does anyone have the stats for H.G. Wells' martians? I understand that they have been published (Creature Companion?), but if not, I'm interested in anyone's take... Also, somebody once wrote in that they had CoC write-ups of Scooby Doo and gang (but I'm not sure if it was here or on Strange Aeons), would someone like to post that as well? Thanks. Later. James D. Collins Painted Frog Productions ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:15:08 +1000 From: Rob Shankly Subject: DG: Ref. Scooby Doo (off topic) http://www.inzenity.com/sdmythos/ Describes the Scooby Doo characters and stories in terms of the Mythos CCG. - -- Rob Shankly ludo@bigpond.com.au Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you frantic. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:24:54 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: DG: Blades and Blair... > There is also a SE Asian legend of blades made with poison as part of their structure. > Maybe the TT blades might actually slowly sweat venom? Hi. Sorry to have kept so quiet, but work has been keeping my busy. First of all, the Ghurka Kukri "blade must draw blood before it's resheathed" is not unique to the Ghurkas--it was supposedly present with many of the more potent and magical Viking blades as well. However, a friend of mine who is SERIOUSLY into swords offers this explanation: It keeps the kids away from the sharp objects. If the kid is told he has to cut himself, he's MUCH less likely to play with Daddy's big, cool blade. As for poisoned weapons, the vast majority of early copper weapons were of this type. In the early days of weapon smithing, the easiest copper to get and work with was copper *cyanide*. I don't know if this contributed to the deadliness of the weapon, but it certainly explains who many legendary smiths (Weyland and Hapheistus spring to mind) were deformed cripples... Finally, I saw Blair Witch Project last night, and it's a very good film. Stays in the mind long after you're out of the theater, and makes it hard to get to sleep after you've seen it. The 'acting' is excellent--partially because a lot of the times the people on camera are scared, hungry, cold, and lost. It will probably have less of an impact on those of you who didn't grow up near large stands of forest with odd stories surrounding them (i.e., not East-coasters), but I found the hinting and implying much more frightening than all the bloody-squick films I've ever seen. Much for a good Keeper to learn from, and players, too. Well, C-YA John Goodrich POI #41 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:33:27 -0400 From: Steven Kaye Subject: DG: Those Kennedys Right now, there's major news coverage in the States about the apparent disappearance of John F. Kennedy Jr.'s plane en route to Hyannisport for his cousin's wedding. This strikes me as tailor-made for a Delta Green scenario. Consider: - - The large number of untimely deaths in the Kennedy clan, starting with Joe Kennedy's son - - Claims that JFK bought the 1960 Presidential election, with possible Mob involvement - - The theories surrounding JFK's assassination, including at least one which ties the whole thing into the rites of Diana described in GOLDEN BOUGH - - Plane of important cultural (if not political figure) goes down off the coast of Massachusetts. 'Nuff said. Are the Kennedys victims of a bargain with Nyarlathotep way back when Joe was doing insider trading? A hereditary cult of Y'golonac worshippers? What DOES Delta Green know about the Kennedy assassination? Lots to think about. Steven - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Kaye box_nine@ix.NOSPAM.netcom.com "Now, just let me fix this band on your head," I added, as I adjusted the electrode. -- William Hope Hodgson, "The Hog" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:08:58 +0200 From: EHuelshoff@t-online.de (Eckhard Huelshoff) Subject: Re: DG: Those Kennedys Steven Kaye schrieb: [ snip ] > Are the Kennedys victims of a bargain with Nyarlathotep way back when Joe > was doing insider trading? A hereditary cult of Y'golonac worshippers? What > DOES Delta Green know about the Kennedy assassination? I like the Idea of the Kennedy Bunch being Y'golonac worshippers, but it does not really explain their early good-byes. But, wasn't JFK the first Catholic president of the US? Could the Kennedy's catholicism be the reason behind their mysterious early deaths? Perhaps they're agents of some Catholic Anti-Mythos force, probably the Order of the Sword of St. Jerome? Perhaps Senator Kennedy drowned that poor little girl with his car because she was a priestess of Shub Niggurath. Probably that young Kennedy - whose name I do not remember - did not rape that other girl, it was probably some catholic ritual to clean her soul from her belief in Yog Sothoth, like some kind of sexcorcism ;-). And probably the reason is their Irish heritage. There's probably some leprechaun trying to get back his crock of Gold... ECKHARD ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:05:25 -0400 From: "Jimmie Bise, Jr." Subject: DG: Kennedy Crash Info For those of you who are interested, here's a pretty good site put together from the weather reporter's frame of reference. It contains weather conditions at the point of departure, point of arrival, and in betwen. There are also a couple very good maps, including one of the suspected crash site, or at least the site where authorities have located some items they believe may have been from the crash. The address is: http://www.weatherwatchers.org/1999/0716/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 06:52:26 +0900 (JST) From: ft203004@fsinet.or.jp (Jay and Mikiko ) Subject: Re: DG: Those Kennedys >Right now, there's major news coverage in the States about the apparent >disappearance of John F. Kennedy Jr.'s plane en route to Hyannisport for >his cousin's wedding. This strikes me as tailor-made for a Delta Green >scenario. Consider: Hmm. Has DG been sanctioning the Kennedys as they prove to be of Deep Ones' stock? They're from the right part of the country. And think of all of the Kennedy swimming and sea stories, such as JFK's WWII incident, and, hey, what about Chappaquidick? All right, own up people. - ------------------------------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." Dave Barry, _Twenty-five Things I have Learned in Fifty Years_ - ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:40:16 EDT From: USFORREC1@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Those Kennedys In a message dated 7/17/99 5:56:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ft203004@fsinet.or.jp writes: << Hmm. Has DG been sanctioning the Kennedys as they prove to be of Deep Ones' stock? They're from the right part of the country. And think of all of the Kennedy swimming and sea stories, such as JFK's WWII incident, and, hey, what about Chappaquidick? All right, own up people. >> And is it just coincidence that they took off from Fairfield airport on their trip :) ? - -Dave K ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:02:34 +0200 From: Davide Mana Subject: Re: DG: Those Kennedys Greetings. Jay wrote.... >Hmm. Has DG been sanctioning the Kennedys as they prove to be of Deep Ones' >stock? They're from the right part of the country. And think of all of the >Kennedy swimming and sea stories, such as JFK's WWII incident, and, hey, >what about Chappaquidick? I just got a quick rundown of the dirt on the Kennedys from my mother - thanks to many years of sensationalistic press and so on. Oh, boy! The DO connection looks promising, and has the mark fro a capital Ice Cave project. So, here's what I'm planning... a - get a Kennedy family tree (using the web should not be difficult) b - fill in the facts and factoids about family members and their friends [note to self: better befriend Elric of Melnibone than being friend of a Kennedy. More so if you're a woman] c - see how many steps are needed to connect the Boston Kennedys with the Innsmouth Marshes or, as an alternative, the Dunwich Whateleys. d - work out an Onassis tie-in appendix just for kicks and for completeness sake. e - expatriate and change my name as soona as the thing hits the web This afternoon I'll be busy due to previously taken mundane engagements, but I'll start working on this project as the sun sets (how appropriate). Opinions, suggestions, pointers and generic help more than welcome. See you later. Davide Mana DG Ice Delivery Boy Torino, Italy doctor.dee@iol.it ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:10:39 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Bomber Story and a Request On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, John Addis wrote: > The official story is that the flight "ran out of gas" while trying to > make it from Selfridge to Olmstead AFB (Harrisburg, PA). Let's see, the > range of a B-25 was around 1200 miles and the *driving* distance from > Selfridge to Harrisburg is about 500 miles. Yeah, I see how you could > run out of fuel that way. Almost inevitable, in fact. Well, they didn't have to top off their tanks, and as you point out below it was a training model, which might imply lower range. It could have just had leaky fuel tanks... Really the conspiracy had nothing to do with this. I swear. I promise and assure you that this was just another tragic accident in a world full of random torment. > Another thing to note is that this was not a "stock" B-25. It had been > retrofitted for "training" purposes. (This must explain the poor fuel > mileage from above.) The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:20:08 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: RE: Leo Marks Strange Days On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Ward Phil wrote: > S > > P > > O > > I > > L > > E > > R > > The serial rapist.killer in that uses the new and illegal for civillians > simsense technology to rape and murder women, while he's doing it, he > has a broadcast unit on himself, and a receiver on them, so while he's > raping/killing the, they can feel the pleasure he's getting from it. Neural feedback like that might cause some serious damage, not like the victims are going to have to deal with that. This also raises the question of brainwave amplifiers, fuses and other hard science (or at least non-soft science) neuralware. The most significant scene in Strange Days that I liked was when Our Hero finds and plays the braindance of the evil villain walking around the Hero's apartment with the knife used in the killings while he's sleeping. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:28:37 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Midgard Serpent > > Thinking of Loki as an early avatar of Nyarlathotep is an obvious and not too new > > idea. I already used him a couple of times that way, although not in DG but CoC > > in the 20s and the 1890s [ and even in an AD&D campaign with mythos influences I > > do not dare to call crossover.. ]. This only works if you have Nyarlathotep picking up the mantle of Loki after Loki joins the petty gods of Earth in the Dreamlands. This may explain the whole "cast into the pit, blinded by acid venom from the evil snake" thing. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:41:07 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Breaking and Entering On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 MSubias@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Oh, I forgot the obvious here. For simple alarm systems that just have > contacts on the doors and windows, one could basically cut a hole in a > wall. If the building has cheap stucco or plasterboard walls this could > be done quietly. Having cut holes in walls before (for various reasons) I would like to know how this would be accomplished "quietly." I suppose a lightsaber might do it with relatively few decibels, but hacksaws or whatever make enough noise to attract attention in most residential areas at night. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:47:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Those Kennedys On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Steven Kaye wrote: > Right now, there's major news coverage in the States about the apparent > disappearance of John F. Kennedy Jr.'s plane en route to Hyannisport for > his cousin's wedding. This strikes me as tailor-made for a Delta Green > scenario. Consider: I trust we've all seen "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man?" The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:54:49 +0100 From: Barry Hill Subject: Re: DG: The War of the Worlds In message <01BECFE2.EC92E140@PAINTEDFROG>, Collins James D./Sarah H. Wood writes >Hello: > >Does anyone have the stats for H.G. Wells' martians? I understand that they have >been published (Creature Companion?), but if not, I'm interested in anyone's >take... Also, somebody once wrote in that they had CoC write-ups of Scooby Doo >and gang (but I'm not sure if it was here or on Strange Aeons), would someone >like to post that as well? > Martians, invaders from Mars; str;3d6+6 ave 16-17 con;2d6 ave7 siz;4d6+12 ave26 int;3d6+6 ave16-17 pow;3d6 ave10-11 dex;3d6+6 ave16-17 hp; 16-17 av,damage bonus +2d6 weapons grapple 50%, special damage san loss 1/1d8 martian war machine str;80 siz;100 dex; as operator move 30 hp; 120/40 each leg weapons tenticle 30%, damage 10d3 or grapple heat ray 80%, damage 10d6 in 4 yard radius black smoke 100% pot 25 poison , damage death or 1d6 armour 30 san loss 0/1d4 also found in GURPS Warehouse 23- a must for all D-G keepers. I love the idea that they [ or something] invaded the east coast of the US on October 30. 1938 and the news of the invasion was broadcast live over the radio. After the invasion failed MG-12 undertook a huge cover up. The invasion bore a superficial resemblance to a story by HG Wells and so the radio company and Orson Welles were persuaded to say it had really been a radiio play based on that story and edited re-recording was published to support the story . However many listeners were convinced that this was quite different from the live broadcast they actully heard that night. \Barry Hill. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:38:17 +0100 From: Barry Hill Subject: Re: DG: Bloodying the Blade (was assorted Gurkhas threads) Thanks Marcos- I must admit I like blades too and collect them. The other weapons for the t-t would surely be tigers claws although these are indian . Perhaps the t-t have small knives grafted into the ends of their finger nails [ bet that stops you picking your nose]. And my book on exotic weapons also shows a 'tebotje-pacho' a sort of sword with a cutting edge of sharks teeth - used by the natives of the gilbert islands in the pacific - also panpope islanders and deep ones no doubt. So I come to the idea that the best cultist weapons are those which mimic animal attacks. And yes the use of a knife is very phallic . \Barry Hill. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:19:56 +0900 From: "David Farnell" Subject: Re: DG: Life Imitates the mailing list From: Juergen Hubert: > BTW, a recent issue of Newsweek (or Newsweak, or whatever...) had a > large article about the decline of organized religion in Western Europe. > I smell the work of Mythos forces here... (OK, that smell is > _everywhere_, so that's no big surprise.) OTOH, it could mean the opposite--the subconscious vibrations of the Mythos forces behind organized religion are finally driving people away. The only answer: DISORGANIZED RELIGION! Whoo-hoo! Pope SuperDave XXIII ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:08:47 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: DG: Kris blades > I disagree- a kris is by definition a dagger with a wavy blade from the > word creese. I rely on the Oxford English Dictionary. So perhaps we must > agree to differ on that. Well, I hate to disagree with anything Prof. Tolkien worked on, but the OED is wrong. According to "Swords and Hilt Weapons", a good general work on many sorts of non-modern blades, kris-blades can be straight or wavy. What makes them kris-knives is the manufacture, and the rather unique in that it is rough and grainy. Top-quality blades are made with five layers of metal--a steel core sandwiched with iron that has been folded and hammered several times, which was then overlaid with more steel. Obviously, wavy blades took a LOT longer to manufacture, and the grainy appearance is enhanced by soaking the blade in a combination of boiling water, rice, sulphur, and salt. The kris is not bright and shiny like European steel. John Goodrich Delta Green friendly, and blade fondler AKA the eight-fingered man ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:08:45 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: DG: Yog-Sothot and Shubby going at it... >> Shouldn't there be a bonus (penalty?) for seeing them mate? I can see it >> now: One investigator astonishingly manages to take tiny SAN losses for >> seeing each deity, but then..."Wha-what are they doing? OH FOR THE LOVE OF >> ... AAAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!!" Sends him right over the edge. > >>"OMIGOD~! They're not using condoms!" 1d6/1d20 Which leads us inevitably to: Being used as an inserted sex-toy of the Outer gods: 1d100/1d1000 SAN loss Hope that image stays with you ALL for a long time... John Goodrich Delta Green Friendly, and X-Phile ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:40:07 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: DG: Texas Rangers... > Little does he know what, Hoss? You can take those suspicions of yours > regarding the pristine, undefiled PURE state of the by God Texas Rangers and > just stick em where the moon don't shine. > Yankee. What the hell you doin' in Jap-an anyhow? > Your whole part of the world is on my shit list. Think we haven't noticed > those gray ass-packers that've been killing our cattle have those big eyes > like that Jap Anna Mae all the kids are gaga over? Start cooking your fish > pardner, maybe you'll snap back to your senses. Eat some bar-b-que. A man > can't think on that toe-fu. I have a friend whose grandmother is currently dating a Texas Ranger--the one who set up one of America's first forensics laboratories. I wish I could get Nicholas to do an extended interview with him, because he keeps dropping fascinating little tidbits about his time in the Rangers. The guy who was the best shot he'd ever seen held his guns "upside down" pulling the triggers (both guns at once) with his smallest fingers. He was also the guy who was shot seven times, and left for dead three times. Tough guy, apparently. Sounds like DG legend just waiting to meet your gun-findling weenie-ass PCs. More stories from this guy as we learn them... And have you hears that NASA's going to crash the Lunar Mapper into a deep where the sun's heat and radiation cannot reach? They are literally going to ram a satellite where the sun don't shine. John Goodrich Delta Green Friendly REAL friendly! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:41:14 -0400 From: BRUCE BALLON Subject: Re: DG: The War of the Worlds -Reply I think they did that in Buckaroo Bonzai Bruce >>> Barry Hill 07/18/99 07:54am >>> In message <01BECFE2.EC92E140@PAINTEDFROG>, Collins James D./Sarah H. Wood writes >Hello: > >Does anyone have the stats for H.G. Wells' martians? I understand that they have >been published (Creature Companion?), but if not, I'm interested in anyone's >take... Also, somebody once wrote in that they had CoC write-ups of Scooby Doo >and gang (but I'm not sure if it was here or on Strange Aeons), would someone >like to post that as well? > Martians, invaders from Mars; str;3d6+6 ave 16-17 con;2d6 ave7 siz;4d6+12 ave26 int;3d6+6 ave16-17 pow;3d6 ave10-11 dex;3d6+6 ave16-17 hp; 16-17 av,damage bonus +2d6 weapons grapple 50%, special damage san loss 1/1d8 martian war machine str;80 siz;100 dex; as operator move 30 hp; 120/40 each leg weapons tenticle 30%, damage 10d3 or grapple heat ray 80%, damage 10d6 in 4 yard radius black smoke 100% pot 25 poison , damage death or 1d6 armour 30 san loss 0/1d4 also found in GURPS Warehouse 23- a must for all D-G keepers. I love the idea that they [ or something] invaded the east coast of the US on October 30. 1938 and the news of the invasion was broadcast live over the radio. After the invasion failed MG-12 undertook a huge cover up. The invasion bore a superficial resemblance to a story by HG Wells and so the radio company and Orson Welles were persuaded to say it had really been a radiio play based on that story and edited re-recording was published to support the story . However many listeners were convinced that this was quite different from the live broadcast they actully heard that night. \Barry Hill. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:50:30 -0400 From: Daniel Harms Subject: Re: DG: Bomber Story and a Request At 07:10 AM 7/18/99 -0400, the MIB scribbled with his nifty new pen (see below): >On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, John Addis wrote: >> The official story is that the flight "ran out of gas" while trying to >> make it from Selfridge to Olmstead AFB (Harrisburg, PA). Let's see, the >> range of a B-25 was around 1200 miles and the *driving* distance from >> Selfridge to Harrisburg is about 500 miles. Yeah, I see how you could >> run out of fuel that way. Almost inevitable, in fact. >Well, they didn't have to top off their tanks, and as you point out below >it was a training model, which might imply lower range. It could have just >had leaky fuel tanks... Really the conspiracy had nothing to do with this. >I swear. I promise and assure you that this was just another tragic >accident in a world full of random torment. I should add that Kennedy Jr. just got his pilot's license a few weeks ago (before this, the only person he could get to go up with him was his wife!), and may have been flying in a different sort of plane than the one in which he trained. I second the MIB, though; my contacts with the Conspiracy indicate no involvement. They state that the fact that Kennedy's flight path took him past Montauk, Rhode Island, a possible site for military research into inter- dimensional travel a la the Philadelphia Experiment, is just one big coincidence, and that you should all keep drinking tap water and watching TV. (They also leaked me an interesting tape on which R&D attempts to convince the MIB that his nifty new pen is, in fact, a nifty new pen, but that's for later.) Yrs., Daniel Harms dmharms@acsu.buffalo.edu "I had come frighteningly near to the capture of an old secret which ventured close to man's haunts and lurked cautiously just beyond the edge of the known. Yet in the end I had nothing." - H. P. Lovecraft and Robert H. Barlow ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:19:08 PDT From: "Joseph Booth" Subject: Re: DG: Bloodying the Blade (was assorted Gurkhas threads) NO Barry Hill!!! The use of a knifee is not phallic. AT ALL!!!! Please don't let it be a phallic symbol. If it is then I don't know anymore. I mean thats the kind of stuff our group stops, Cannibal Corpse and what not. Just say it ain't so. IT COULD END ANY MINUTE __ (oO) /||\ AND IT IS THIS HOPE THAT MAKES LIFE WORTH LIVING _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:41:11 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: DG: Kennedys In a message dated 7/18/99 4:06:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, doctor.dee@iol.it writes: << c - see how many steps are needed to connect the Boston Kennedys with the Innsmouth Marshes or, as an alternative, the Dunwich Whateleys. >> One. During Prohibition, Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger. He brought booze in by boat from Canada. I would presume the services of a close-mouthed family of mariners from New England would help immensely in that endeavor. Also, for bonus fun, speculate on how many competitors ships could have sunk without any public record. After all, if they were involved in smuggling, they would not be where the Coast Guard would be looking. Kennedy connections to ocean: Bootlegging\smuggling. Recreation sailing Eldest son, Joe, lost in WWII. Bomber crashed (in ocean IIRC). If so, possible sacrifice to DOs. John becomes captain of PT boat in the South Pacific. Undistinguished war record other than heroic action after the sinking of his boat. Lots of really impressive swimming. Chappaquiddic. Nothing suspicious about the rest of the clan. Just the usual infidelity, substance abuse, suicide, assassinations, influence peddling, nepotism and bizarre sexual behavior at the various compounds. The Kennedy Compound. Everytime some reporter babbles live from The Kennedy Compound in XXXXXX, I'm reminded that compound is the term you would use to describe the dwelling of a militia group, or a barricaded cult. All the other rich, politically connected demiroyalty in America live on estates. Gangsta rappers have mansions, but only Kennedys and kooks get compounds. Mark McFadden La Casa del Rey del Lagarto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:17:06 PDT From: "Christopher D. Nichols" Subject: DG: Fwd: Re: [GreatWar] [Fwd: Big Bang machine could destroy Earth] Shan? Mi-Go? Some other force? You make the call... http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html 3395298 Chris Nichols >>July 18 1999 BRITAIN >>© >>Ready for blastoff: a Brookhaven engineer puts finishing touches to >the >>ion collider >> >>Big Bang machine could destroy Earth >>by Jonathan Leake >>Science Editor >> >>A NUCLEAR accelerator designed to replicate the Big Bang is under >>investigation by international physicists because of fears that it >>might cause "perturbations of the universe" that could destroy the >>Earth. One theory even suggests that it could create a black hole. >>Brookhaven National Laboratories (BNL), one of the American government's >>foremost research bodies, has spent eight years >>building its Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) on Long Island >>in New York state. A successful test-firing was held on Friday and >>the first nuclear collisions will take place in the autumn, building >>up to full power around the time of the millennium. >> >>Last week, however, John Marburger, Brookhaven's director, set up a >>committee of physicists to investigate whether the project could go >>disastrously wrong. It followed warnings by other physicists that >>there was a tiny but real risk that the machine, the most powerful >>of its kind in the world, had the power to create "strangelets" - a >>new type of matter made up of sub-atomic particles called "strange >>quarks". >> >>The committee is to examine the possibility that, once formed, >>strangelets might start an uncontrollable chain reaction that could >>convert anything they touched into more strange matter. The >>committee will also consider an alternative, although less likely, >>possibility that the colliding particles could achieve such a high >>density that they would form a mini black hole. In space, black >>holes are believed to generate intense gravitational fields that >>suck in all surrounding matter. The creation of one on Earth could be >>disastrous. >> >>Professor Bob Jaffe, director of the Centre for Theoretical Physics >>at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who is on the committee, >>said >>he believed the risk was tiny but could not be ruled >>out. "There have been fears that strange matter could alter the >>structure of anything nearby. The risk is exceedingly small but the >>probability of something unusual happening is not zero." >> >>Construction of the £350m RHIC machine started eight years ago and >>is almost complete. On Friday scientists sent the first beam of >>particles around the machine - but without attempting any collisions. >> >>Inside the collider, atoms of gold will be stripped of their outer >>electrons and pumped into one of two 2.4-mile circular tubes where >>powerful magnets will accelerate them to 99.9% of the speed of light. >> >>The ions in the two tubes will travel in opposite directions to >>increase the power of the collisions. When they smash into each >>other, at one of several intersections between the tubes, they will >>generate minuscule fireballs of superdense matter with temperatures >of >>about a trillion degrees - 10,000 times hotter than the sun. Such >> >conditions are thought not to have existed - except possibly in the >>heart of some dense stars - since the Big Bang that formed the >>universe between 12 billion and 15 billion years ago. >> >>Under such conditions atomic nuclei "evaporate" into a plasma of even >>smaller particles called quarks and gluons. Theoretical and experimental >>evidence predicts that such a plasma would then emit a >>shower of other, different particles as it cooled down. >> >>Among the particles predicted to appear during this cooling are >>strange quarks. These have been detected in other accelerators but >>always attached to other particles. RHIC, the most powerful such >>machine yet built, has the ability to create solitary strange quarks >for >>the first time since the universe began. >> >>BNL confirmed that there had been discussion over the possibility of >>"perturbations in the universe". Thomas Ludlam, associate project >>director of RHIC, said that the committee would hold its first >>meeting shortly. >> >>John Nelson, professor of nuclear physics at Birmingham University >>who is leading the British scientific team at RHIC, said the chances >>of an accident were infinitesimally small - but Brookhaven had a >>duty to assess them. "The big question is whether the planet will >>disappear in the twinkling of an eye. It is astonishingly unlikely >>that there is any risk - but I could not prove it," he said. > > > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >Congratulations MilitaryEFM. Our latest ONElist of the week. >http://www.onelist.com >How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:45:28 +0900 From: "David Farnell" Subject: Oh, the Yellow Sign of Texas... (was Re: DG: Two news items) From: : > Little does he know what, Hoss? You can take those suspicions of yours > regarding the pristine, undefiled PURE state of the by God Texas Rangers and > just stick em where the moon don't shine. Ah, the Texas Myth and the Texas Mythos--just why did Santa Anna kill everyone at the Alamo? Were Travis, Bowie, and Crockett desperately trying to release something trapped in the secret basements under the Alamo? And is it merely coincidence that Santa Anna entered San Antonio on February 23? I THINK NOT! What did Cabeza de Vaca find that he feared to record? What of the Secret of San Saba?! Were the fish-oil-smeared, cannibalistic Karankawa, on the coast, relatives of the feared Tcho-tcho? What of the Coahuiltecan in the south? With a name like that, they MUST have been practicing Mythos magic. And the brave, doomed Comanche, led by Chief Quanah, and the Apache, and others--what secrets did they take with them? What terrors did they seal away, only to be released later by foolish white settlers? In the Hill Country--what tiny communities of inbred German cultists formed during the past century? What horrors in the parched desert hills and mesas of Big Bend? Hm. Maybe we /should/ recruit a couple of Friendlies, or even a full Agent, from the Rangers. > Yankee. What the hell you doin' in Jap-an anyhow? Ah'll have you know, suh, Ah am a NATCHRALIZED citizen of Texas! It is not mah fault Ah was born and raised in foreign lands. > Start cooking your fish > pardner, maybe you'll snap back to your senses. Eat some bar-b-que. A man > can't think on that toe-fu. That's toe-food to you, boy! And I assure you, I fully intend to add several pounds of BBQ (get yer spelling right, boy!) and chicken-fried steak (with tons of greasy gravy) to my frame on my trip home next month. Be seein' y'all, Buffalo Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:19:19 PDT From: "Christopher D. Nichols" Subject: DG: Curse of the Blair Witch Just a reminder to all my fellow horror afficionados... "The Curse of the Blair Witch," a special preview of "The Blair Witch Project," will be showing tonight at 7pm and 12pm CST on the Sci-Fi Channel. I realize I'm sending this reminder out too late for y'all to catch the first showing. Sorry. Anyhow, the special is done to resemble a true life documentary on the Blair Witch, similar to the movie. I strongly recommend seeing this program. Chris Nichols _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:20:21 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: Return to the Black Hole http://home.swipnet.se/blueholes/news.htm#Black_hole There is a Canadian sonar research ship named Quest (http://www.drea.dnd.ca/overview/quest/quest_e.html) that is planning to support a scientific cave dive in the Bahamas. The cave's media savvy nickname is "The Black Hole," and it is a remote place far from civilization. This dive is part of the Blue Holes Foundation's program of underwater cave and cavern exploration. Note that this group does not reveal the location of Blue Hole dive sites to the general public for reasons of environmental preservation. We need to insert ourselves into this situation as soon as possible. I don't need to remind the group about the Lucayan Indian legend of the half-shark/half-squid Lusca creatures believed and still believed to be responsible for the creation of these Bahamanian blue holes, often referred to as "boiling" or "blowing" caves. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:33:33 -0400 From: "gable" Subject: DG: Re: Blades and Blair... > Finally, I saw Blair Witch Project last night, and it's a very good >film. Stays in the mind long after you're out of the theater, and makes it >hard to get to sleep after you've seen it. The 'acting' is BTW -- we've mentioned, I believe, how the backstory to this film (the witch, etc.) was probably created for the movie. Well, serendipitously, I was just down in Maryland (got back about five minutes ago) and was talking to people about it. Evidently, that *is* at the very least a real legend down that way -- part of the "fictional" speculations may come from the fact the story isn't at a town called Blair. It's Bel Air. Andrew D. Gable ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:46:36 -0500 From: Nightstar Subject: DG: Tiny Circuits Could Promote Fast Computers Found this in the paper. Thought someone might find it interesting. Palladium-Item ‘Saturday, July 17, 1999 Nation Tiny Circuits Could Promote Fast Computers From wire services REPORT SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Researchers have created computer circuitry in a single molecule a breakthrough that could open a brave new world of tiny computers billions of times more powerful than current PCs and sensors that could be injected into the bloodstream to diagnose disease. “What we are proposing is essentially building a computer in a test tube,” said Phil Kuekes, a computer architect for Hewlett-Packard. Researchers at Hewlett-Packard and the University of California at Los Angeles, in a paper published Friday in the journal Science, reported early success in combining computer technology with chemistry They have found a way to make part of a molecule operate like a switch that can be turned on or off the first step In basic computing. Currently, computers are run by semiconductor silicon chips that are increasingly jammed with transistors to make them faster and more powerful. Within about 15 years, scientists say, it simply won't be possible to push such chips any further. Scientists say such molecular based computers will be much smaller, more powerful and less expensive than silicon-based counterparts. obDG: MJ-12 agent approaches our intrepid DG agent in a crowd and injects him with a syringe full of molecular computers. Anyone care to speculate on the software? Finally, the light at the end of the tunnel. . . . heh, heh, heh! 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