From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V2 #8 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Thursday, July 22 1999 Volume 02 : Number 008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:27:32 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Blades and Blair... On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Barry Hill wrote: > It reminds me of a comment in a UK wargaming mag that the US has banned > lead in metal models . It pointed out that this was not the most > numberous way kids in the US died as the result of the effects of lead. > Being shot came somewhat higher. Yes, this was the NYC Health Dept, who after ONE complaint and no research, decided to set a precedent affecting an entire niche industry. Thus everyone had to switch to pewter. I presume that GW in the UK might have done this as well, but I hate GW for many many reasons, so PISS ON THEM. Basically the whole point was that lead minis are toys and kids are too stupid not to chew on these brightly colored munchies. This is believable, as most GW players have the mentality of a toddler. Why we need to protect them from natural selection is another matter entirely. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: DG: Sex in America On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Eckhard Huelshoff wrote: > What I find pretty remarkable about this topic is the American > TV-censors' ovious obsession whith the female breast It can easily be understood through history. Back in the day, we had three types of folks in North America; Indians, Puritans, and other assorted scum; including prison colonies and spillover from wherever. Thus lots of the original culture is Puritan in nature. These were the folks too stuffy and uptight for England. ENGLAND! fer cryin out loud! Eventually new waves of immigration (and slavery) changed society enough so that things like sex could be made legal again. The Man in Black is : gonna go look at boobs and have sex right now. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:42:06 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Eyes Wide Shut On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Phil A Posehn wrote: > In regard to the current thread on cencorship, has anyone remarked on the > fact that iin American television and magazines the breasts of white > women are obscene but black women in Africa or South America can be shown > in full frontal nudity? > I once remarked with my tongue firmly in cheek that this policy was at > least partly responsible for the death of the taboo on racially mixed > marriages since the first photographs of naked females available to the > adolescants of the generation that grew up in the early '60s were in > National Geographic. Good Gawd man! I think you've stumbled upon a conspiracy by the liberal mass media to pollute our racial essence! Someone go inform the Karotechia at once! The Man in Black is : the product of a mixed marriage. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:44:58 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Eyes Wide Shut On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 ScottSaylo@aol.com wrote: > And now you have permanently croosed eyes and terminally hairy palms - God! > The things we do for scholarship! (Having done much same in research for a > paper in Hisotry of Journalism) I suppose you're wondering why we MiB's wear gloves and shades. WELL NEVER YOU MIND~! JUST KEEP WATCHING TV AND SURFING THE WEB~! The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:49:53 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Eyes Wide Shut In a message dated 7/22/99 8:43:42 AM EST, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << The Man in Black is : the product of a mixed marriage. >> When you come right down to it, skin color, religion, political - what can be more mixed than the sexes? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Book choice On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 LizardRoi@aol.com wrote: > Mark McFadden > for tradecraft, buy a used Penguin Classic from a college bookstore. > Dog-eared and hilighted with notes in the margins. Looks like you are finally > getting around to reading your college literature. Nope, you guys have it all wrong. Choices for Book Codes have only one consideration, and that is how symbolic they are to the themes in the plot. So if you have a scenario involving Deep Ones, use "The Old Man and the Sea." If you're doing Majestic, use "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire." If you're doing Karotechia, "Mein Kamph," or one of Time-Life's series. You get the idea. Other Themes: Crime and Punishment Alive! - the one about Cannibalism The Golden Bough Encyclopedia Cthulhiana ("How to use this book in CoC" now needs revision) Kafka's Metamorphosis Being Digital, Negroponte First Light, Preston (of Hot Zone fame), a book about Azathoth. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:23:45 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Mentos On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 LizardRoi@aol.com wrote: > Thank you Alphonse. You have reduced my cerebral itching by a hefty amount. > Now I can focus on the mission. Tell me more about this cerebral itching, I may know some doctors here in Hawaii who can help you... ObDG: (for the first time in centaposts) My Neurologist is Dr. Micheal Watters, and his little brochure says he was Chief of Neurology at Tripler Army Medical Center from 85-98, (TAMC http://http://www.tamc.amedd.army.mil/) placing him essentially in command of all military brain docs in the Pacific Ocean (sans California). He's specialized in "marine neurotoxins." This hints that he was involved in chemical and possibly biological warfare activities in the three year gap in his record between 1982 and 1985. Why else would a military doc specialize in fugu; in case Bush pukes on some more VIP's? I think not. I'm not going to ask him a damn thing about any of this however. Not a damn thing... PS: I wish to assure our foriegn associates that US biological weapon programs are purely defensive in nature. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:48:02 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Book choice In a message dated 7/22/99 9:04:12 AM EST, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << If you're doing Karotechia, "Mein Kamph," or one of Time-Life's series. You get the idea. >> Perhaps, the best general all-purpose book would be Dianetics, by L. Ron Hubbard? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Intra-species Shan Infestation On 21 Jul 1999, Peter Devlin wrote: > For DG purposes Mi Go infestation would allow the Shan to gather intel > from the other worldwide conspiracies. The presumption that the Shan are > only interested in one thing (getting off Earth) may be erroneous. I considered this, and even posted it to the list long and long ago. Read the description of Mi-Go physiology from DG p. 17, 18: "The Mi-Go have the ability to transform themselves in simple ways, altering their limbs, extending their sensory apparatus, etc. This is accomplished by altering the tiny colonies of fungal matter that comprise their bodies...An average of 40% of their mass...is devoted to intellect." I conclude that any Shan entering a Mi-Go (even if the transdimensional nature of both species allows such an interaction) will be consumed or otherwise rejected by the Mi-Go, who simply has to rearrange some brain'shroom with teeth'shroom. Cows, Deep Ones, Ghouls etc are open season as far as I'm concerned. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:27:27 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Intra-species Shan Infestation On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Eckhard Huelshoff wrote: > I once had a Shan infestested cat and several infested monkeys in my campaign. A Shan is pigeon sized which means maybe 1/2 pound (260g) for the little grey skyrats, to about 3lbs.(1.6kg) for the wedding birds and couriers. This is a little large for cats and monkeys. Anyway, what happened? Sounds like cruelty to animals in some NWI labs or such. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:36:18 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Re: Kennedy campaign musings On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 USFORREC1@aol.com wrote: > Everybody in the loop is happy (and not being in the know leads to those > accusations of "vast right wing conspiracies" as they attempt to label > the unseen forces coming at them). Ahem! I'll have you know the the VRWC is alive and well. It even has it's own INWO (Illuminati : New World Order) card. It even has a website: http://www.vrconspiracy.com/ The Man in Black is : not in possession of any "wings" Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:38:58 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Re: Kennedy campaign musings On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Eckhard Huelshoff wrote: > I think my all-time-favourite-anti-mythos-hero and DG ally Libya's Col. > Muammar Ghaddafi could fit pretty well into this background. The Reagan > times may be over, but the Colonel may still have some helpful > information from that time. And there must have been some reason, why > he or rather his palace was directly attacked by US Bombers in '86. ENOUGH ALREADY! We are diverging from Conspiracy Horror into the uncharted waters of Political Satire. What's next, NPC illos with big heads and exaggerated features? The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:47:33 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Jelly babies (was: Re: RE: Re: Book choice) On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, David Farnell wrote: > Something I am more sure of is the rash of babies born with no brains in the > towns on both sides of the Texas / Mexico border in recent years. The term for this is "hydrocephalic" cause the skull is filled with water/cranial fluid. They test for this by shining a flashlight into the back of the fetus' head, if the head and eyes light up, you've got a winner. > ObDG: Perhaps not necessary, but maybe the babes aren't losing their brains > to the pollution after all. Mi-Go surgery would be undetectable if you don't > know what to look for, and they could easily do it in the womb. What would > they use fetal brains for? Ah, this is depressing me... YIKES! The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:57:27 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Eyes Wide Shut On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Juergen Hubert wrote: > And something else about Sailor Moon in the USA: At the end of each > episode, a feature called "Sailor Moon Says" was added because > apparently a certain percentage of cartoons is required to have a "moral > lesson". The time for this was gained by cutting lots of scenes from the > rest of the episode... As mentioned previously, everyone using the public airwaves in a big way (TV and Radio) needs to provide airtime for Public Service Anoouncements - PSA's and Educational programming. Some skanky broadcasters like to use things like "Sailor Moon Says" in case they don't meet the quota. Punk ass bitches, I plan to smack them up soon, but the list is getting pretty long, may have to use Weapons of Mass Destruction. ObDG: You gradually poison someone in a sensitive position. They go nuts and use Weapons of Mass Destruction. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:59:35 -0500 From: "Shane Ivey" Subject: DG: Sailor Moon & American TV Ah, the infamous moral lesson on American children's television. This is what you get when too many voters become convinced that since some kids just aren't getting enough moral guidance and education from their parents, we need to make sure they get their minimum daily requirements of moral guidance and education from local government employees and Saturday morning cartoons. A disgustingly visible proportion of parents, consequently, breathe a sigh of relief that they don't have to spend so much time teaching their kids now that the schools and Winnie the Pooh and Sailor Moon are on the job. And for those kids that somehow escape the lessons of self-control and discipline so carefully crafted into each animated episode? Well, no normal kid would be so impaired, right? Naturally, every family that I know in Alabama has a child on Ritalin or has been recommended to put a child on Ritalin by Child Care Professionals. We are looked at dubiously when we express reluctance to medicate our children's brains. ObDG: The Child Care Professionals certainly mean well, even if they tend to be befuddled about just about everything, but what about the people that made Ritalin? What if it was another drug, something out of research labs funded by MJ12 and NWI and guided by visitations of the Greys; or perhaps something out of the unknown biomedical labs of NWI's British affiliates, something which prepared human minds somehow to be more amenable to the Insects from Shaggai? Coming Soon: SANDMAN II: THE SQUICKENING. ObNWO: A soothing, jovial voice-over announces its good intentions at the beginning of every show in ABC's Saturday morning line-up: "This is Illuminating Television." Fnord. ObPooh: Pooh fans, don't start after me. Pooh was terrific, funny and clever, in Milne and in Disney's first movie. The subsequent films and TV shows have been tedious pablum, dedicated to beating lessons into the heads of children with stories that any child could have written, rather than implying wisdom through stories just subtle enough to engage the mind of a child and entertain an adult. Our toddlers still love to watch them, of course; I just find something else to do while they're at it. SHANE IVEY Zealot: Sci-fi & Fantasy Fun http://www.zealot.com AOL Keyword: Z - -----Original Message----- From: owner-deltagreen@nocturne.org [mailto:owner-deltagreen@nocturne.org]On Behalf Of Juergen Hubert Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 3:15 AM To: Delta Green List Subject: Re: DG: Eyes Wide Shut And something else about Sailor Moon in the USA: At the end of each episode, a feature called "Sailor Moon Says" was added because apparently a certain percentage of cartoons is required to have a "moral lesson". The time for this was gained by cutting lots of scenes from the rest of the episode... - - Juergen Hubert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:02:10 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Financing On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Robert Thomas wrote: > Ok so answer me this, is Kajander a DG researcher not conducting his > experiments on mice but on Rhinos? Only so far as the linguistics are concerned. You see, Rhino is the root for "Nose." The Man in Black is : snort, hack, bleah! Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:13:54 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: DMSO On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 ScottSaylo@aol.com wrote: > Watch out tear gas! How about an aerosol of the acid which gives chili > peppers their HOTS mixed with DMSO? How about just regular tear gas and pepper spray (they don't work well in the bloodstream) people eat jalapeno's and habanerio's all the time. Peppers just irritate mucus membranes. Try liquid (and thus concentrated) Nerve Agents, sedatives, hallucinogenics, SPECTRUM biochemicals, biological weapons (?), and that experimental "turns blood to acid" stuff from MAJIC/PLUTO/ARC DREAM/CORE. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:15:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: : Re: DG: Breaking and Entering On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 ScottSaylo@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/22/99 8:17:47 AM EST, mib@cyberspace.org writes: > (MiB) : "...IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS~! DON'T EVER POST POETRY > TO THE LIST AGAIN~! IT HURTS MY BRAIN, AND THAT HURTS YOU~!" > Even HPL's stuff? (though his poetry sometimes leaves SOMETHING to be > desired)? That's not poetry, it's Mythos Fiction that rhymes. The Man in Black is : pretty sure about that. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:13:26 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Subject matter Look at the flip side. Different folks are on these lists for different reasons. Many gamers play in many different arenas. Mailing Lists are generally fun. Mailing lists are for sharing off the wall ideas. Mailing lists are for generating new ideas. Mailing listss are for looking at the dark side, the light side,a different side. Mailing lists are for reading stuff from folks with good knowledge whereof they speak. Mailing lists are for reading ideas from people who have NO bloody whereof they speak. Mailing lists are for entertainment. Mailing lists are for getting good use out of your gaming time. With that proviso: What matters the occasional digression? Take a valium. Relax, put your feet up and let the conversation go where it will. If you are being billed on your bandwidth use, be careful what lists you sign up for! Chill out! The digressions are as good as the rest. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:15:27 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Jelly babies (was: Re: RE: Re: Book choice) In a message dated 7/22/99 10:48:45 AM EST, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << The term for this is "hydrocephalic" cause the skull is filled with water/cranial fluid. They test for this by shining a flashlight into the back of the fetus' head, if the head and eyes light up, you've got a winner. >> The reference was not to hydrocephaly, but acephaly - there is no forebrain present at all. Hydrocephaly is unfortunate but generally correctable. Acephaly means the body functions because of the midbrain presence - sort of a human shaped lizard mentally. Bad stuff! NO hope! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:42:11 EDT From: Olaughing@aol.com Subject: DG: This "earthlight" nonsense... > The Japan Times today ran two-paragraph article about "a very peculiar," > unidentified body of light which was filmed floating over the Volcan de > Fuego. They say that its not a light that's emanating from an explosian. The > odd thing about it is that it only appears in two out of every thirty frames > of the video. Mexican experts are asking NASA for advice. > What do you think, should a NASA DG friendly be sent to investigate? Over strange lights over a volcano? Most likely it's swamp gas. > Jay and list, > > The geophysical phenomenon known as earthlights might account for this. > Usually associated with earthquakes and such, volcanoes are probably not > a far sight from said event. Energized/Ionized air molecules to plasma state. More likely what you saw was the planet Venus. -straight from the governor's mouth. John Goodrich Delta Green Friendly, and UFO expert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:45:52 +0200 From: EHuelshoff@t-online.de (Eckhard Huelshoff) Subject: Re: DG: Intra-species Shan Infestation The Man in Black schrieb: > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Eckhard Huelshoff wrote: > > > I once had a Shan infestested cat and several infested monkeys in my > campaign. > > A Shan is pigeon sized which means maybe 1/2 pound (260g) for the little > grey skyrats, to about 3lbs.(1.6kg) for the wedding birds and couriers. > This is a little large for cats and monkeys. > > Anyway, what happened? Sounds like cruelty to animals in some NWI labs or > such. Actually I chose a young Shan that was much smaller [ and in fact I did not really care about the size ]. This Shan was experimenting with several types of species and therefore different types of brains and thoughts. The scenario was set in a Zoo where several members of the staff and visitors had been injured or killed by some of the zoo's animals. This had of course been the work of the Shan. At the time when the PCs arrived to investigate the shan had chosen the Zoo owner's cat as a host. And while the PC investigated in the wrong direction [ the "wild" animals ] the shan / cat could go on with it's work.... ECKHARD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:45:53 +0200 From: EHuelshoff@t-online.de (Eckhard Huelshoff) Subject: DG: JFK jr. back in the Atlantic Good Evening. I just watched the latest news: The remains of JFK jr. and the women have been dumped in the sea today. What I find kind of strange is the fact that it's been only a couple of hours between finding the corpses, burning them and putting them back in the water. I mean, there seems to have been an autopsy, but now any possibility to check the remains for further evidence is destroyed. And something else: The anchorman in the news said that there is a certain saying among the Kennedys: "We came from the Water and we will return there!" ECKHARD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:45:53 +0200 From: EHuelshoff@t-online.de (Eckhard Huelshoff) Subject: Re: DG: Re: Kennedy campaign musings The Man in Black schrieb: > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Eckhard Huelshoff wrote: > > > I think my all-time-favourite-anti-mythos-hero and DG ally Libya's Col. > > Muammar Ghaddafi could fit pretty well into this background. The Reagan > > times may be over, but the Colonel may still have some helpful > > information from that time. And there must have been some reason, why > > he or rather his palace was directly attacked by US Bombers in '86. > > ENOUGH ALREADY! We are diverging from Conspiracy Horror into the uncharted > waters of Political Satire. What's next, NPC illos with big heads and > exaggerated features? Sorry, but this was definitely NOT intended to be satirical. [ I do agree that it might sound a bit like that ] Ghaddaffi's role in my campaign had it's roots in several adventures that dealt with incidents that took place during the Reagan era. Considering Reagan's role in MJ-12, I chose to have the president as a bad guy, or rather a tool of the bad guys. And, when looking back at the Reagan era, who was his personal enemy? Right: Col. M. Ghaddaffi. Therefore the connection seemed obvious to me! ECKHARD BTW: It's only a thin line between conspiracy horror and political satire! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:59:34 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: DMSO In a message dated 7/22/99 11:15:29 AM EST, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << How about just regular tear gas and pepper spray (they don't work well in the bloodstream) people eat jalapeno's and habanerio's all the time. Peppers just irritate mucus membranes. Try >> In concentrated form it is instantaneously incapcitating, and already available in self-defense sprays. DMSO makes it effective by skin contact DMSO is wierd stuff! if you mix a couple micrograms of DMSO and artifical vanilla flavoring and touch the mixture with your finger. Within about 1/10th of a second your eyes will water you sense of smell will be overloaded and you'll wonder if you'll ever get the taste of vanilla out of your mouth. Strange ddo-doo! It has other uses. Medical patches to accelerate the therapeutic effect of stimulants and pain killers for first aid. It must have some other problems or its use would be more common. But for a DG first aid kit, I wouldn't be without it. Nerve gases and other disabling agents that have effect through skin contact aren't going to be accelerated a whole lot by DMSO, but for something has to be swallowed, smelled or exposes to mucous membranes this is a pile driver! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:48:17 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: DG: Re: [OT] Mailing Lists and Lightbulbs..... In a message dated 7/21/99 11:29:49 PM EST, kx.henderson@qut.edu.au writes: a note from another list about digressions: << One of the guys here at work found the following while surfing the web on lunch. I thought it was as funny as all heck. (My apologies if it has be posted before.) Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? A: 678: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy. -Kelvin.... >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:52:20 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: DG: Diversions About digressions and diversions. I received this from the mailing list for GZG Games (Full Thrust, Dirtside, Stargrunt) Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? A: 678: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy. - -Kelvin.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:56:45 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Diversions Sorr, guys I got a mailer daemon telling me the first one had not bee delivered. I hang my head in shame over the duplication. May a Shan dwell in my left ear! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:59:44 +0200 From: Davide Mana Subject: DG: Spot the Mythos (again) Greetings. Lots of anime talk recently on the list - including the MiB's wicked tentacular hentai plans (nice, but is it worth the price of the Sailor Moon Rulesbook?) Anyway, here's something else. I've just finished reading what's been the Holy Grail of Italian anime fans for the last fifteen years: The Incredible Tide, by Alexander Key (1970) the short novel upon which Miyazaki based his almost perfect series "Mirai Shonen Conan". Key was a fantasist specializing in kids novels of an ecological persuasion - - today he'd be probably labelled a new ager of sorts. Disney made two movies out of his Witch Mountain books (good, gentle aliens chased by cynical govt. agents - sounds familiar?) The Incredible Tide is not overly good (IMHO), and it reads as a selection of highlits from the first half of a much larger and complex sf novel that Key had not the time, the intention or the skill to produce. The basic idea: after a huge cathastrophic war (Endtimes,anybody?), it's good guys vs bad guys again on a world submerged by waters where small islands are all that remains to support human life. The bad guys are of course faceless atheist technocrats (with clear Eastern Block characterization) while the good guys are environmentally aware (you have to take that on faith) and spiritually awakened - they practice and _teach_ thought projection. The story follows the (surprisingly mild) trials of Conan, a teenager destined to save his people as he goes looking for the Teacher. _BUT_ a - some of the main characters are guided by "a voice in their head". While some weak religious connotation is given to the thing - it's the voice of God, of the soul or of the Guardian Angels - it's still a pretty down to earth and definitive voice indeed. The kind that gives orders. Spending time sailing over the all-encompassing ocean "opens your inner hear" - so that you can start hearing the Guiding Voice if you did not in the first place. b - a psionic character can't look at the sea whithout suffering strong, unexplained phobic effects (pelagophobia?) Questioned about this about ten pages before the end of the book, she asks in turn "Can't you perceive the vast evil lurking beneath the surface and waiting to make its move?" It was this last phrase that penetrated the torpor and forced me to do a double take. Who knows what evil lurks beneath the surface of the oceans? Delta Green knows. In the end, all is for the best in Key's novel - the characters guided by their mysterious voice become leaders of the people (enforcing with a good whack their pacifistic philosophy) and the evil under the sea is never mentioned again. And it's back to nature and simple, plastic-free living, as a providential tsunami wipes out the last technological outpost on the planet. How quaint. I honestly closed the booklet with the strong impression of having witnessed the birth of a post-apocaliptic Cthulhu cult. How long before the psionic girl gets kicked out of the picture, fish men crawl out of the harbor to offer goods for exchange and the Inner Voice tells the new leader that it's all right, they are the Deep Ones coming to teach humanity some new games? Creepy. I just wanted to share this with all interested parties. Take care. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@iol.it ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:49:45 -0400 From: "Dan Chapman" Subject: DG: Re: JFK jr. back in the Atlantic I thought he might kidding about that quote...but there it is on the MSNBC front page (and you know they don't lie): "And when we go back to the sea, we are going back from whence we came." -- President John F. Kennedy, 1962 - ----------------------------------- Dan Chapman Network Analyst dchapman@myself.com - -----Original Message----- From: Eckhard Huelshoff To: deltagreen@nocturne.org Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:02 PM Subject: DG: JFK jr. back in the Atlantic Good Evening. I just watched the latest news: The remains of JFK jr. and the women have been dumped in the sea today. What I find kind of strange is the fact that it's been only a couple of hours between finding the corpses, burning them and putting them back in the water. I mean, there seems to have been an autopsy, but now any possibility to check the remains for further evidence is destroyed. And something else: The anchorman in the news said that there is a certain saying among the Kennedys: "We came from the Water and we will return there!" ECKHARD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:58:09 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Cryptography and the CIA In a message dated 99-07-22 07:21:04 EDT, you write: << All of these goodies can be traced back to Casa del Cucaracha or wherever. OTOH, you might want to leave a trail for disinformation purposes... >> North By Northwest. Cary Grant is mistaken for a spy, but the twist is that the spy is only a paper man, an identity maintained for Company business that is nothing more than a trail of receipts and dry cleaning. Mark McFadden ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:02:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Juneau Subject: Re: DG: DMSO On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, The Man in Black wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 ScottSaylo@aol.com wrote: > Try liquid (and thus concentrated) > Nerve Agents, sedatives, hallucinogenics, SPECTRUM biochemicals, > biological weapons (?), and that experimental "turns blood to acid" stuff > from MAJIC/PLUTO/ARC DREAM/CORE. Abbie Hoffman was suggesting LSD & DMSO in STEAL THIS BOOK as an anti-cop weapon for riots; it's in the bloodstream, yeah, but how long before the brain is affected? Simply spraying DMSO on the skin can make bad things happen; what kind of chemical goodies do *you* put on or encounter every day? "Not for internal application", forsooth! Potassium is a natural chemical in the human body, but excessive amounts in the bloodstream can induce cardiac events... usually, the needle puncture gives that away. Evil Idea: metallic sodium in microgranulated form? I'm not up on the total working of DMSO, but I kind of doubt that would work - instant SHC otherwise. (You just have to hope that the DMSO doesn't cause it to react, and that it stays isolated from the outside world. Hmmm... teflon-packed metallic sodium filling a thin casing ala a Glaser round?) Don, off to see the chemist... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:13:59 PDT From: "Christopher D. Nichols" Subject: DG: Re: SAILOR MOON (and other anime w/ Mythos) o/~ WEEEELLL..! It's the Big Show, It's The Man in Black's show tonight! o/~: >I am planning on purchasing the Sailor Moon RPG and running a group >of NegaVerse characters, complete with Tentacle Sex. I'm sure they >cut the TSX out of the Cartoon Network version. > >BTW, I have lots of Sailor Moon Hentai, if anyone is interested... Bah. If you're getting your Japanese pedo-fixation kick from Sailor Moon, I strongly recommend you switch tapes. Try Neon Genesis Evangelion, for a better looking, if smaller, selection. Further, this anime contains contain elements of interest to Keeper's, such as giant biological mecha, Ambrose Dexter (for The Shadow from the Steeple) -esque bastard Gendo Ikari, pseudo-mystic ramblings about the Dead Sea Scrolls, clones, giant divine alien things, the end of humanity, and a giant naked school-girl as an avatar of Shub-Niggurath, plus the usual rounds of murder, treachery and madness. A direct fusion of Neon Genesis Evangelion can be found at: http://www.uh.edu/~rpm/eva/index.html Other anime to watch for Mythos connections include... Urotsukidoji and La Blue Girl, the tentacle porn classics. Wicker City might be good, being tentacle porn framed by a Delta Green-esque supernatural espionage story. And, possibly Takahasji's Mermaid Saga manga/anime. Almost certainly there are other anime/manga with Mythos/Delta Green applications. I'm sure that the more astute members of this list can recommend something. Eh, but I'm preachin' to the choir. Anyhow, the Sailor Moon RPG is OK, if you really like the show. Otherwise, just buy the Big Eyes, Small Mouth basic system and bash out the stats for your favorite anime. Chris Nichols _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:10:37 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: DMSO In a message dated 7/22/99 2:04:29 PM EST, djuneau@io.com writes: << Abbie Hoffman was suggesting LSD & DMSO in STEAL THIS BOOK as an anti-cop weapon for riots; it's in the bloodstream, yeah, but how long before the brain is affected? >> From long-ago personal experience - LSD eyedrops are an almost instantaneous RUSH. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:21:52 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Book choice In a message dated 99-07-22 10:52:28 EDT, you write: << Perhaps, the best general all-purpose book would be Dianetics, by L. Ron Hubbard? >> Oooooooooooo. Good one. Also that copy of the Havah Nigela those Hairy Knishes pushed on me at the airport. I'm going to pimp Moby Dick again. Not only does it allow me to say Dick again and again, but the plotline is DGish. Monomaniacal character tangles with Leviathan and loses a limb. Dedicates his life to hunting and killing the beast that tasks him, and in the quest becomes monstrous himself. The cetology chapters I think of as the Tom Clancy interludes. Pre-acronym tech fodder. Mark McFadden ------------------------------ End of deltagreen-digest V2 #8 ******************************