From: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org (deltagreen-digest) To: deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Subject: deltagreen-digest V2 #13 Reply-To: Delta Green List Sender: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Errors-To: owner-deltagreen-digest@nocturne.org Precedence: bulk deltagreen-digest Tuesday, July 27 1999 Volume 02 : Number 013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:10:45 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: Re: DG: Meat, Slime and Bacteria [was DG: A new urban myth ] >It was there long enough to rot if it got to 30 months, I would imagine 8 >months is pushing the envelope for non-freezing storage. As to why the >rotting was atypical - I imagine there is a biological agent affecting the >tissue, perhaps amicroorganism which likes the temperature envelope. Lets see. Low temperature storage (I'd guess at nearer 4oC than 10oC for commercial meat packing facilities), so that puts it in the range of some cold tolerant bugs (technical term, psychrophiles IIRC). Growth would be slow for most organisms at this temperature, but then again so would autolytic digestion (tissue enzymes dissolving the meat itself). The cold temperature would keep insect activity low (probably prevent it) so no maggots. Leave it enough time (a couple of months) and I'd be expecting the meat to go somewhat rancid, then a bit drippy. Yum. Note that the environment would not be sterile (totally eliminating bacteria and fungi from a room is very difficult indeed), but the cold would prevent the growth of most of the bugs, and reduce the _rate_ of growth for the cold tolerant ones significantly. This could lead to the popsicle effect described in earlier posts. Closest thing I've seen from personal experience is "hanging" of game birds. Think pheasants hung by a wire around the neck in a cool room. There is an element in the "upper classes" in the UK which considers game birds to be ready to eat (ie. to have the most flavour) when they've been left long enough for the head to fall off. Seriously. Leave the birds hanging another few days and the meat would definitely be regarded as rotten. This practice isn't as common as it used to be (what with health and safety considerations), but is apparently still done on some estates. Hmm. Wonder what's for dinner? Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:10:05 PDT From: "Stabernide -" Subject: DG: Mythos Corporations This was mentioned a while back by the guy in the sharp black suit;- I've since gone away, seen a re-run of 'Stark' on Uk Gold, poached plenty of cyberpunk-esque material from assorted novels/comics, pondered, mused, and finally knocked this up when i really should have been doing some real work today. - --- The Consortium For the last 25 years, the World Economic Forum has been attended by thousands of the world's most influential business leaders, media moguls, politicians and scientists. People who have previously received invitations include Directors of the FBI, Presidents of the World Bank and Bundesbank, PLO Leader Yasser Arafat, Toyota executives, oil company management and the late Israeli Prime Minister, Shimon Peres. It is unlikely that you've heard of this event as even if the media could afford to attend, they are discouraged from covering it by their corporate owners who are also attending. The leading international futurist organisation is a relatively small company from San Francisco known as the Global Business Network. The GBN is another invitation only group ­ this time of diverse and innovative thinkers from across the social and technological board ­ whose expertise in predicting the future is hired out for millions by organisations such as Shell, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff and the American Express bank. The major concern here is perhaps not the information itself but the influence. The GBN is possibly the most highest regarded consultancy in the world. Flying visits by network members are afforded unparalleled access to high level corporate and government administrators and their proposals are unquestioned. Critics baulk at the amount of power such multi-corporate agencies/cabals are capable of exercising; all totally unelected and answerable to no one. In theory, such bodies are perfectly capable of ruling the known world in every way but the most cosmetic and superficial. But surely this is just run-of-the mill conspiracy fodder? Multi-national corporations don't work together. Everyone knows that. - --- The Consortium was formed in the mid-seventies. The events of the cold war and rising tension in the middle east had resulted in a period of economic instablitity and uncertainty; the leading economic lights of the western world decided they could no longer afford to let the governments of the world run themselves, and decided to pool resources in order to manage and affect political change to serve the needs of the capitalist free-market. In the beginning, that's all it was. The world at large owes the Consortium a great deal. They are directly responsible for the end of the cold war; their influence prevented the Middle East situation from degenerating into a bloody, expensive slaughter, even when relations were at their most frayed. The Consortium are the reason wars in this day and age are generally small, manageable affairs. Nothing must intefere with the progress of capitalism and the spread of the free market. A roll-call of the Consortiums 'representatives' reveals a number of the usual suspects. Theresa Chandler of NWI sits on the inner circle; as are at least two ex-heads of the CIA, a former British chancellor of the ex-chequer and two former American and French presidents. Justin Kroft is an 'associate' member. Majestic-12 is just one of several government projects (not just US based) that the Consortium has 'gifted' private funding to. As a consequence, they are fully briefed on the details of 'the Accord' and act as brokers for the advanced technology that the group obtains. One interesting sideline the group maintains is 'the Vaults' located at a private facility in Tunisia. Here technologies or discoveries that are deemed too advanced, too uncontrollable or even too beneficial are stored for safe-keeping, and perhaps later review. Everything from rechargable batteries to bio- mechanical war liquid and crashed UFOs. The Vaults are maintained by a special interest group called AEGIS. It is unclear where these individuals are recruited from. Sometime in the eighties, however, the scope of the organisation changed. The Consortium enjoys resources that no other in the world can boast;- their intelligence database is without a doubt the most comprehensive in existence. The Consortium know more about the world and the way things are than anyone else, anywhere. At some point, the group's self-styled 'inner-circle' became aware of 'the big picture'; or have at least arrived at their own interpretation of it. The Consortium analyse the mythos in purely corporate terms- threat and opportunity. They are happy to exploit 'exotic' technologies and 'black' science for profit, no matter the source, yet are blatantly aware of the risk that the forces they meddle with pose to the status quo and their own existence. They also realise that the Earth is effectively doomed, and estimate that they have between twelve and fifteen years left before the end of the world. To counter this, they have formulated a contingency plan. Quite a simple one really;- Strip the Earth of every useful natural resource. Bleed the planet dry. Then re-locate off-planet and do the same all over again;- spreading across the universe like some kind of vampiric virus. Exodus is tentatively scheduled for the year 2009. The Consortium estimates that they will kill off a fifth of the human race putting their plans into effect- although they believe they can lose up to a third without severely hindering their plans. The Consortium have targeted Mars as the most likely first settlement. Having commandeered the Mars Observer from NASA, they have begun planning their Corporate escape plan. Indpendent launch facilities have been constructed in the Pacific and Australia. The initial test flights have been, for the most part, succesful. Great emphasis has been placed upon bringing in the Russian element in order to exploit the tattered remenants of the Soviet's space program. Another point of interest is the extent of extraterrestrial activity in this solar system. The Consortium are not convinced by the Grey's claims (although this suspicion is kept from Majestic-12, so as to fully exploit the Accord), and are preparing for the possibility of conflict with more than one alien race after making planetfall. They are extremely interested in MJ's anti-Grey weaponry, and have begun to apportion the lion's share of the funding they contribute to these projects. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:44:49 MST From: "D.L. Serius" Subject: Re: DG: Kennedy campaign musings I just saw on a news broadcast that investigators are still collecting wreckage from the crash. Locals have been advised to turn over any wreckage they find along with "unusual pieces of metal" that might wash up along the beaches. I seem to have a fuzzy recollection of reports that the luggage that was strapped in was found a goodly ways away from the main site. Delivery job just popped into my head when I heard it, so: Quick idea: A retired navy man finds an "unusual piece of metal" along the coast. He knows it's sure as hell not off of some plane, makes a few calls and presto, DG's in on it. Whether or not the Kennedy's are involved is another matter. I lean towards the red herring aspect- see how far the players will push it trying to prove *something crooked* about the Kennedy's before political pressures turn their careers into doggy-doo. Big D _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:01:43 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Kennedy campaign musings In a message dated 99-07-26 18:47:30 EDT, you write: << I lean towards the red herring aspect- see how far the players will push it trying to prove *something crooked* about the Kennedy's before political pressures turn their careers into doggy-doo. >> It occurs to me that IF the Kennedy's were\are players in the Mythos, they aren't terribly successful. Or rather, their opponents always seem to get the last word. So Joe, Sr. was an unscrupulous racketeer/businessman. His eldest son and heir was killed in WWII. His second son was almost killed in WWII, but not even being President could save him from the *forces* the family (which could arguably trace it's roots back to Brian Boru, Caennedi becoming Kennedy) had apparently pissed off. So the second son was murdered in broad daylight in front of hundreds in circumstances that stink on ice. Then the third was murdered damn near on-camera in a situation that reeked of that heady MKULTRA bouquet. The fourth son was neutralized before he could become anything other than a well-connected Democratic Party animal. It seems to me that, to an outsider, the trail left by people fighting or victimized by the Mythos would be hard to distinguish from the trail left by a cult. Ahem. When JFK was campaigning for the Presidency, one of the accusations he had to answer was the assumption that a Catholic President would be obligated to do whatever the Pope said. Perhaps the Kennedy's have connections to Jerry's Kids and some other cabals don't like it. Just a thought. Mark McFadden Ich bin ein Angeleno ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:13:08 +0900 From: "David Farnell" Subject: Re: Meat, Slime and Bacteria [was DG: A new urban myth ] From: Eckhard Huelshoff: > In the air conditioned storage facility [ about 10 Degrees Celsius cool, but NOT > freezing ] of a company that is bancrupt for already three years they found 150 > tons of ROTTEN MEAT! [horrific description snipped] Meister Eckhard, you actually made me MOAN OUT LOUD in revulsion, and my somen noodles almost came back up. Thank goodness I didn't eat any meat for lunch! Which is pretty damn strange if you think about it--all those descriptions of dead babies had less effect on me than the image of 150 tons of rotten meat. > Is there any cult that needs large amounts of rotten meat? Why sure--to build the Rotten Meat Golem! Imagine 150 tons of anthropomorphic rotten meat shambling towards you. Croaker Daddy pointed out the possibility of raising baby DYoSN from At Your Door--don't forget the A.P.T. from the same book. Rotten, gelatinous A.P.T.! Geh! > Is there any mythos-creature that only feeds on ROTTEN meat? Well, Ghouls, of course. But later descriptions of the manner of rotting make me think of another post today which brought up genetically-engineered food products. Maybe these farm animals were geneered clones that went horribly bad. Maybe they haven't been in the storage facility for many months, but only for a day or two. And maybe the same starts happening to people...well, you are what you eat, you know. David Farnell -- Fukuoka, Japan "Ua mau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:12:49 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Fwd: DG: Kennedy campaign musings - --part1_f88d8d9.24ce99d1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --part1_f88d8d9.24ce99d1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: LizardRoi@aol.com From: LizardRoi@aol.com Full-name: LizardRoi Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:01:43 EDT Subject: Re: DG: Kennedy campaign musings To: deltagreen@nocturne.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 In a message dated 99-07-26 18:47:30 EDT, you write: << I lean towards the red herring aspect- see how far the players will push it trying to prove *something crooked* about the Kennedy's before political pressures turn their careers into doggy-doo. >> It occurs to me that IF the Kennedy's were\are players in the Mythos, they aren't terribly successful. Or rather, their opponents always seem to get the last word. So Joe, Sr. was an unscrupulous racketeer/businessman. His eldest son and heir was killed in WWII. His second son was almost killed in WWII, but not even being President could save him from the *forces* the family (which could arguably trace it's roots back to Brian Boru, Caennedi becoming Kennedy) had apparently pissed off. So the second son was murdered in broad daylight in front of hundreds in circumstances that stink on ice. Then the third was murdered damn near on-camera in a situation that reeked of that heady MKULTRA bouquet. The fourth son was neutralized before he could become anything other than a well-connected Democratic Party animal. It seems to me that, to an outsider, the trail left by people fighting or victimized by the Mythos would be hard to distinguish from the trail left by a cult. Ahem. When JFK was campaigning for the Presidency, one of the accusations he had to answer was the assumption that a Catholic President would be obligated to do whatever the Pope said. Perhaps the Kennedy's have connections to Jerry's Kids and some other cabals don't like it. Just a thought. Mark McFadden Ich bin ein Angeleno - --part1_f88d8d9.24ce99d1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:32:51 +0200 From: EHuelshoff@t-online.de (Eckhard Huelshoff) Subject: Re: Fwd: DG: Kennedy campaign musings LizardRoi@aol.com schrieb: > Ich bin ein Angeleno > By the way: During the summit in Cologne, Clinton tried to copy Kennedy's "Ich bin ein Berliner" by shouting to the people of Cologne: "Ich bin ein Koelsch!!" Nice try, but the result was amusement. The reason: The correct phrase would have been "Ich bin ein Koelner". "Koelsch" is the special beer of the Cologne area. ECKHARD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:09:27 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Kennedy campaign musings In a message dated 7/27/99 6:35:24 AM EST, EHuelshoff@t-online.de writes: << Nice try, but the result was amusement. The reason: The correct phrase would have been "Ich bin ein Koelner". "Koelsch" is the special beer of the Cologne area. ECKHARD >> Ich bin ein bagel! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:42:09 +0200 From: Davide Mana Subject: Re: Fwd: DG: Kennedy campaign musings Greetings. Eckhard unhearted another snipped of forgotten Clintoniana >Nice try, but the result was amusement. The reason: The correct phrase would have >been "Ich bin ein Koelner". "Koelsch" is the special beer of the Cologne area. On the other hand, "Ich bin ein Berliner" was also considered amusing by some - "Berliner" being some kind of pastry/pretzel/whatever. I'm too lay to go and dig up the correct reference in an old Len Deighton book. Possible DG slang: beer & pretzels - of, about or related to Democrat presidents/administrations. Just being silly (it's been along day, and I'm only thorugh half of it) Cheers! Davide Mana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: The Looker gun On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Davide "Sunglasses at Night" Mana wrote: > - in "Andromeda" (the movie, at least) a brief blank-out of one of the > characters induced by her gazing at flashing red writing on a screen is > part of the plot devices Crichton throws in. > Always made me vonder at that cursed tag in HTML. That blink crap is a legacy from 16-32 color displays. Users of TSR Color computers, 8088 motherboards and C-64's know what I mean. Also, here in the Good Ole' USA that movie was called "The Andromeda Strain" pretty good, IMHO. The Man in Black is : aware that there is a fire. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:02:27 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Kennedy campaign musings On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 USFORREC1@aol.com wrote: > With these organizations having their own agendas that would be passed > on to MJ with their personnel moving into the group, it is easy for me > to see projects and influence outside the sphere of aliens. That's the point, most of the Steering Committee have lots of other responsibilities that have nothing to do with MJ. You seem to think that everything MJ does from the very beginning has to be corrupt, evil, and organized for destruction. People are not that way. Most of the original Steering Committee members would and should view this alien crap as another burden to their already too busy schedules. It's historical and world-shattering, but essentially better left to the scientists and security killers. I doubt the Committee would meet more than once a month (with lots of absentees doing other stuff) unless some imminent crisis was developing. That's how vile guys like Kroft and Lepus were able to work their way up the structure I like to think of Majestic as a group originally ruthlessly dedicated to an overall good, but gradually corrupted (by Alzis, Nyarlathotep, Black Brotherhood etc) into the villainous conspiracy they are today. This is also my plan for Delta Green in the ENDTIMES. Starting out as a shield against the Mythos, but turning into something a little more sinister. Majestic will be gone (exposed) by then. A kind of "Organizational SAN Loss" sort of concept. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:10:19 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: Biological Weapons (Was: Re: DG: Mentos) On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Crossingham, Adam wrote: > Hey it's not just bananas you damn yankees are making us buy, it's your GM > Soya beans too - which is cunningly mixed with non-GM Soya so that the > customer can't identify it easily without labels or tests. The manufacturers > obviously have *great* faith in their product - Agri-chemi-imperialism at > it's best. It's not exactly the USA, it's a symptom of emerging Multinational Corporations controlling Agriculture and everything else. Archer-Daniels Midlands is the one that most immediately pops to mind when I think of Genetic Engineering and the crushing of small organic farms. Korps like ADM and NWI are becoming the Invisible Empire that the KKK wishes they could be. One day, I'll produce an gaming essay on this which will get me killed by the International Syndicate. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:26:36 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Eckhard Huelshoff wrote: > If you wanted to poison large numbers of the world population, wouldn't > it be "easier" or rather more efficient to change the ingredients of > Coke or Pepsi by adding some new secret and poisonous ingredient. You > could say the same about the world-wide fast food suppliers like McD, or > Burger King. And the result would not even have to be death, they could > add something that would first make people addicted to the product and > then it will just make them feel good, be happy, ignore global > conspiracies, etc... Nope, cause at least with Pepsi in Hawaii, they sub-contract or something with local companies. The local bottler here in Hawaii is called Apcoa, and they get their ingredients from all over, not just from Pepsico, which would be franchising. I know this from drinking (not Pepsi :) with the supplier for the 50th State Fair, and they say JayCee networking isn't worth the $50 bucks a year. On a related note, the Sabbat in a nearby Storyteller game hunted the Camarilla/Indepentants/Failed Sabbat and ground up the bodies to make hamburger patties at a local fast-food drive thru. If that wasn't gross enough for you, these patties were basically self-frying in the sun :) Adjusting ingredients globally would be rather difficult, as even with the extensive cattle mutilations going on in the MidWest, the logistics demand too much. McWorld gets beef from all over, preferably local. So adding the "special sauce" from a central locale or a bunch of regional locales just doesn't seem palatable or possible. The Man in Black is : skipping the special sauce at Jack-in-the-Box. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:35:07 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 LizardRoi@aol.com wrote: > Mark McFadden > The Fresh King of Lizards You know that Mentos was invented by a Dutch based Multinat right? You may have to wear those silly wooden clogs and put a tulip in the label of that goofy white suit of yours. It's not too late freshmaker, you can return to the DarkSide (TM). Come with me (no, not like that!) and we can rule the Galaxy together! The Man in Black is : eating a Milky Way right now. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:32:05 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth I like the self-frying burgers. Nice touch! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:38:56 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 ScottSaylo@aol.com wrote: > How about Blowfish venom: fugu - exotic, lethal, fairly long onset time - I think Marine Neurotoxins decay pretty fast in the open air. Some pretty fancy chemistry would have to be involved to get the fugu to bind to sticky gooey adhesives. I'll ask my Neurologist. The Man in Black is : wondering "You ate the WHOLE THING?!" Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:50:59 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth In a message dated 7/27/99 2:36:18 PM EST, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << You know that Mentos was invented by a Dutch based Multinat right? You may have to wear those silly wooden clogs and put a tulip in the label of that goofy white suit of yours. It's not too late freshmaker, you can return to the DarkSide (TM). Come with me (no, not like that!) and we can rule the Galaxy together! The Man in Black is : eating a Milky Way right now. >> I don't know, mib - is this a Freudian slip? Not your referebnce (no, not like that) and the secnd dissonant statement (eating a milky way right now). Listen, guy, I've got an empty couch, I'd be happy to sip brandy, smoke cigars and have you pay me $100 for thera[y. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:14:54 +0200 From: G_H_O@t-online.de (Heiko Aulbach) Subject: DG: Re: The Burning Man Festival >I just returned from court to see the last minutes of a documentary about >something called the "Burning Man Festival", some strange happening somewhere in >the Southern part of the US. I missed most of the documentary, but what I saw >seemed pretty cool for DG. Sometime during the climax of the ritual the start to >burn some giant wooden statue of a man and then many the freaky visitors of this >festival are setting fire to themselves. I think Iīve seen this, too (Pro 7?). As far as I remember it this thing happens every year in some desert in Arizona. One of the things I remember from it, is something called "The cult of flesh", which are some guys who place raw pieces of meat, even bovine heads and such things and eat them during a show in the early hours of the night, still raw, but due to the heat, insects and other nasties mostly rotten. They offer it to the audience, too, but most of the people simply stay to vomiting, while they see it. The strangest thing, I found, was that this whole cult didnīt seem strange or disturbing to me, more like something impressive or nice to perhaps at least try out once. >Does anybody out there know more about this strange happening? >Come on, Baby, light my fire, >Eckhard >Burn, motherf****r, burn! Bye then, Heiko PS: Please send me some molerats, mjamjamjam! (Already preparing my kitchen tools) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:01:54 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Meat, Slime and Bacteria [was DG: A new urban myth ] On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Eckhard Huelshoff wrote: > NOT freezing ] of a company that is bancrupt for already three years > they found 150 tons of ROTTEN MEAT! Experts say that the meat has been > put there AT LEAST 8 Months ago, but it seems more realistic that it has > already been there for TWO YEARS. Sounds like someone in charge of the post- bankruptcy lock up wanted to leave a surprise for the new landlord. HEE HEE! Sounds like something I might do. HEE HEE! I heard that certain University dormitories had food left in the fridges and hidden in places like above the foam tiles in the roof. However, the 150ton load pretty much takes the lead away from those petty incidents. > Now I'd like to make a scenario out of this incident. > > Is there any cult that needs large amounts of rotten meat? Ghouls, you silly fool! > Is there any mythos-creature that only feeds on ROTTEN meat? Ghouls, you silly fool! But seriously folks, I like the idea of a Shoggoth hiding amidst the 150 tons of yummy maggoty goo. Doesn't that sound like the makings of a wonderful scene. A bunch of temporary employees with firehoses and gasmasks, a few HAZMAT supervisors, and one Shoggoth. Let your cell play the doomed NPC's like pawns in a Cheapass Game (TM) before letting their regular investigators take up the "real deal." "Dieses Spiel sollte in keiner Spielesammlung fehlen und wir hoffen, dass Autor und Verlag noch viele empfehlenswerte Spiele herausbringen werden." - - http://www.cheapass.com The Man in Black is : a Cheapass Pimp! Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Ghouls, you silly fool!" http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:19:39 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Kennedy campaign musings On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, D.L. Serius wrote: > beaches. I seem to have a fuzzy recollection of reports that the luggage > that was strapped in was found a goodly ways away from the main site. > Delivery job just popped into my head when I heard it, so: Luggage that don't open up, floats. Water crashes spreads wreckage everywhere, currents, even on pieces headed for the ocean bottom. NTSB sometimes want to reconstruct the plane from scratch so every little piece od scrap metal helps. That's above and beyond the regular attention to detail required during investigations, a kind of "leave no stone unturned" sort of thing. It does leave a lot of tradecraft opportunity tho'. The Man in Black is : holding onto that little golden Bissette ring. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:31:20 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 ScottSaylo@aol.com wrote: > I don't know, mib - is this a Freudian slip? Not your referebnce (no, not > like that) and the secnd dissonant statement (eating a milky way right now). > Listen, guy, I've got an empty couch, I'd be happy to sip brandy, smoke > cigars and have you pay me $100 for thera[y. Hey, I LIKE girls. Maybe you're coming onto me (No, not like THAT!) I'm not being defensive, you're the one who's being defensive! Is it me or is it him? It's Stephan Alzis that's Nyarlathotep, stupid gay god! The Man in Black is : downloading internet porn. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:35:05 +0200 From: EHuelshoff@t-online.de (Eckhard Huelshoff) Subject: Re: DG: Meat, Slime and Bacteria [was DG: A new urban myth ] The Man in Black schrieb: > > > > Is there any cult that needs large amounts of rotten meat? > > Ghouls, you silly fool! > > > Is there any mythos-creature that only feeds on ROTTEN meat? > > Ghouls, you silly fool! Yep, the silly fool thought of ghouls but reading my following posting will explain to you that there was something awkward to that meat, something different from the rotten meat I know from the corpses I've seen in autopsies. This made the idea of Ghouls seem less appropriate to me... > But seriously folks, I like the idea of a Shoggoth hiding amidst the 150 > tons of yummy maggoty goo. Doesn't that sound like the makings of a > wonderful scene. A bunch of temporary employees with firehoses and > gasmasks, a few HAZMAT supervisors, and one Shoggoth. Let your cell play > the doomed NPC's like pawns in a Cheapass Game (TM) before letting their > regular investigators take up the "real deal." Yeah, that's about the thing I thought of... ECKHARD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:49:35 -0400 (EDT) From: The Man in Black Subject: Re: DG: Re: The Burning Man Festival On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Heiko Aulbach wrote: > I think Iīve seen this, too (Pro 7?). As far as I remember it this thing > happens every year in some desert in Arizona. One of the things I remember > from it, is something called "The cult of flesh", which are some guys who > place raw pieces of meat, even bovine heads and such things and eat them Sounds like a bunch of Cattle Mutilators on the Hoof. What could the morphology of such a cult be? You've got Cthonians, DYoSN, maybe both? Hmmm... > PS: Please send me some molerats, mjamjamjam! (Already preparing my > kitchen tools) Go ahead, make some Meat Jam (TM), I dare ya. First I send Fuzzy Lumpkins of "PowerPuff" fame to whuppass on you... (http://animation.acmecity.com/coloredpencil/331/villians.html) Then I'll manipulate the Powerpuff Girls (TM) into tracking that Lumpkins crumbbum right toward YOU! That just might result in the beating of a lifetime. Those three little ladies can dish out almost as much Smack-Down (TM) as yours truly. The Man in Black is : funding Utonium Institute research. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum Code Z: 233,1,42; 140,39,23; 91,3,7; 5,52,3. http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:47:07 EDT From: ScottSaylo@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: Meat, Slime and Bacteria [was DG: A new urban myth ] In a message dated 7/27/99 3:02:39 PM EST, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << Sounds like someone in charge of the post- bankruptcy lock up wanted to leave a surprise for the new landlord. HEE HEE! Sounds like something I might do. HEE HEE! I heard that certain University dormitories had food left in the fridges and hidden in places like above the foam tiles in the roof. However, the 150ton load pretty much takes the lead away from those petty incidents. >> A bit of urban myth from the Berkeley Free Speech Movement days. A no good rotten hippy type came into the major banking institution in the area with a package. He paid for 3 months of safe deposit box access. He put his package in the box and left, never to be seen again. The stench in the vault room became unbearable. For 90 days they had to apologize to their patrons for the god awful aroma. At the end of that 3 months they were able to open the abandoned box to take out the whole, uncleaned eight pound codfish that had been put away for safekeepin. How about a small shoggoth? a baby fungi from Yuggoth, a dead baby ghoul? Surely there is a mythos critter that would do well to get the local DG people called in. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:02:31 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth In a message dated 99-07-27 15:36:18 EDT, you write: << It's not too late freshmaker, you can return to the DarkSide (TM). Come with me (no, not like that!) and we can rule the Galaxy together! >> Get thee behind me, MiB! No, wait....stay in plain sight. And I don't wear no steenkeen' white suit. That was the Man From Glad. Mark McFadden Every day in every way, I'm getting fresher and fresher. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:36:41 -0400 From: graemep@immagene.mcg.edu (Graeme Price) Subject: DG: Safety deposit [was: Re: Meat, Slime etc] >How about a small shoggoth? a baby fungi from Yuggoth, a dead baby ghoul? >Surely there is a mythos critter that would do well to get the local DG >people called in. Or how about a dead Grey? Put it in a jar of formaldehyde, which leaks and releases fumes. Bank then _has_ to open the box and finds the body. FBI is called in, but DG takes over the investigation (subtle-like). Owner of the box could be traced (not too easily) back to an MJ-12 lab (looking like a researcher stashes body as "insurance")... with a few obvious leads. Just the sort of thing that MJ-12 would use to draw a cell out into the open. Follow this up with a nasty ambush type scenario with men in dark suits etc. Of course, the body would be a mock up (and hence disprovable) in case DG didn't take the bait... or maybe not. It would have to look real _enough_ to pass inspection. Of course, this little set up might just be a little bit terminal for most investigators. Cthonian eggs also leap to mind. But that's just nasty. Anyway, just some thoughts. Graeme graemep@immag.mcg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:33:55 EDT From: LizardRoi@aol.com Subject: Re: DG: A new urban myth In a message dated 99-07-27 15:39:47 EDT, you write: << > How about Blowfish venom: fugu - exotic, lethal, fairly long onset time - I think Marine Neurotoxins decay pretty fast in the open air. Some pretty fancy chemistry would have to be involved to get the fugu to bind to sticky gooey adhesives. >> What everyone is forgetting is that this is for an urban myth. It doesn't have to be accurate or possible. Traditionally, they usually aren't. What makes an urban myth (or rumour, or crafted disinformation) is how well it melds with our preconceptions/prejudices. So AIDS in a mosquito bite will take off like a big ol' bird, regardless of the facts. Ditto deep-fried rat at KFC and ground earthworms at McD's. Is fugu toxin on a deposit envelope really harder to believe than Richard Gere putting gerbils up his ass? When plotting the action in a scenario, verisimilitude is a plus. In urban myths, the sizzle is much more important than the steak. Mark McFadden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:41:33 -0500 From: "Benada, Rob" Subject: RE: DG: Meat, Slime and Bacteria [was DG: A new urban myth ] ScottSaylo@aol.com did say How about a small shoggoth? a baby fungi from Yuggoth, a dead baby ghoul? Surely there is a mythos critter that would do well to get the local DG Rule 1 of Horror: hint a lot, show a little. DG starter seed: A safety deposit box from an abandon account containing: 27 wallets/purses, with money and ID's (DL's from all over the country, demographic mix of race, genders and ages; Newest DL is 1980); A 8.5" Floppy titled "Test #15"; A title to a local warehouse; and a sealed glass vile containing gray ooze and a chunk of something vaguely familiar (a human tongue). At the tightly sealed warehouse, parts are found, hanging, for 36 people and countless animals, all very runny. The warehouse was lined with plastic and sealed so that no moisture could get in or out. Taxes and the Box fees have been paid from an escrow account that has been drained and closed. I see this as something that would get the attention of any Number of parties, including DG. I can't wait to see the Agents Having all kinds of fun trying to read the disk, Could be worse: how about a 20 meg disk pack. Warming up his pdp-11/a.k.a. space heater Snork - -- Snorkey: is really not THAT old. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:22:04 +0900 From: "David Farnell" Subject: Re: Fwd: DG: Kennedy campaign musings From: Eckhard Huelshoff : > Nice try, but the result was amusement. The reason: The correct phrase would have > been "Ich bin ein Koelner". "Koelsch" is the special beer of the Cologne area. I think this is now a tradition among American presidents--go to German cities and announce in all seriousness that they are, indeed, local snacks. As traditions go, at least it's harmless. (Pesky German grammar.) David Farnell -- Fukuoka, Japan "Ich bin ein Frankfurter!" (No, really--drop the "ein" and it's true.) ------------------------------ End of deltagreen-digest V2 #13 *******************************