From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Daniel Harms [dmharms@acsu.buffalo.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:45 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Alternatives to Glaaki At 06:05 PM 2/2/2000 -0800, you wrote: SPOILER FOR ROGER MOORE SPOILER FOR ROGER MOORE SPOILER FOR ROGER MOORE THIS MEANS YOU, ROGER MOORE REALLY NOW, MR. MOORE! >In any case, I plan on introducing my investigators to a >not-quite-ready-to-wake-up GOO that was the driving force behind a _way_ >pre-Columbian death-haunted civilization run by an undead priesthood. >I'll >skip more details, but I just can't stand to use Glaaki, and would prefer >to use an entity I find more suitable. >So, any GOO one could reasonably identify with reanimated bodies with not >much of the original habits and personality (just enough to be a SAN >draining mockery of the living version), that are at least somewhat zombie >like in appearance (I plan on letting them remain animated until most of >the flesh rots off), would do. You know, I never got that "undead/Mythos" thing. I mean, if I'm a vastly powerful being who comes to a planet whose inhabitants mean next to nothing to me, the last thing that will occur to me is to take some of the dead bodies of these inhabitants and make them walk around in a slow, shuffling gait. Unless I plan on initiating... Plan 9! I'd actually give Glaaki a try on this one. The only other one is Huitloxopetl, who is supposedly worshiped in Mexico and stars in his own round robin here: http://www.toddalan.com/~berglund/huit01.htm >From what I understand, though, you're not fond of Glaaki's appearance. Change it. Don't like his name? Change that, too. It's, um, an avatar. Yeah, that's the ticket. Nothing personal, my friend - it just strikes me that you've got a GOO tailor-made for your scenario, so you may want to start from there and alter him a bit. Yrs., Daniel Harms dmharms@acsu.buffalo.edu The Internet: Learn what you know. Share what you don't. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Diego Garcia [dgarcia@ta.telecom.com.ar] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:07 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: In wich language is this?/strange website. -|- DELTA GREEN SECURE SERVER v24.6 -|- PGP CODING ENABLED -|- TO: Agents and Case Officers FROM: Diego Garcia DATE: Feb 03, 2000 In the weekend, while researching on the web for a nephilim adventure, I typed the following URL www.lilith.com ( typing url with intresting names (without searching) is a method that generally is not useful but sometimes is funny) and found a page written in 3 languajes without links or other contents. The name that appears in title of the window is 777. An excerpt of the page follows: .....................an excerpt of the first text a thousand two hundred and threescore days (1) Potem wielki znak siê ukaza³ na niebie: Niewiasta obleczona w s³oñce i ksiê¿yc pod jej stopami, a na jej g³owie wieniec z gwiazd dwunastu. (2) A jest brzemienna. I wo³a cierpi¹c bóle i mêki rodzenia. (3) I inny znak siê ukaza³ na niebie: Oto wielki Smok barwy ognia, maj¹cy siedem g³ów i dziesiêæ rogów - a na g³owach jego siedem diademów - (4) i ogon jego zmiata trzeci¹ czê?æ gwiazd nieba: i rzuci³ je na ziemiê. I stan¹³ Smok przed maj¹c¹ rodziæ Niewiast¹, a¿eby skoro porodzi, po¿reæ jej dzieciê. .....................an excerpt of the second text. 12: 1 æÙåÑÊ ÂíÉ ÚÙíãÉ Ýí ÇáÓãÇÁ ÇãÑÃÉ ãÊÓÑÈáÉ ÈÇáÔãÓ æÇáÞãÑ ÊÍÊ ÑÌáíåÇ æÚáì ÑÇÓåÇ Çßáíá ãä ÇËäí ÚÔÑ ßæßÈÇ 12: 2 æåí ÍÈáì ÊÕÑÎ ãÊãÎÖÉ æãÊæÌÚÉ áÊáÏ. 12: 3 æÙåÑÊ ÂíÉ ÇÎÑì Ýí ÇáÓãÇÁ. åæÐÇ Êäíä ÚÙíã ÇÍãÑ áå ÓÈÚÉ ÑÄæÓ æÚÔÑÉ ÞÑæä æÚáì ÑÄæÓå ÓÈÚÉ ÊíÌÇä. 12: 4 æÐäÈå íÌÑ ËáË äÌæã ÇáÓãÇÁ ÝØÑÍåÇ Çáì ÇáÇÑÖ. æÇáÊäíä æÞÝ ÇãÇã ÇáãÑÃÉ ÇáÚÊíÏÉ Çä ÊáÏ ÍÊì íÈÊáÚ æáÏåÇ ãÊì æáÏÊ. .....................an excerpt of the third text (this text is in the original in greek (symbol) font ) 12:1 kai shmeion mega wfqh en tw ouranw gunh peribeblhmenh ton hlion kai h selhnh upokatw twn podwn authV kai epi thV kefalhV authV stefanoV asterwn dwdeka 2 kai en gastri ecousa ekrazen wdinousa kai basanizomenh tekein 3 kai wfqh allo shmeion en tw ouranw kai idou drakwn puroV megaV ecwn kefalaV epta kai kerata deka kai epi taV kefalaV autou epta diadhmata 4 kai h oura autou surei to triton twn asterwn tou ouranou kai ebalen autouV eiV thn ghn kai o drakwn esthken enwpion thV gunaikoV thV melloushV tekein ina otan tekh to teknon authV katafagh I hope a DG Operative more califfied in linguistics could help me with this. Thanks. Diego Garcia -|- DELTA GREEN SECURE SERVER v24.6 -|- PGP CODING ENABLED -|- From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Robert Thomas [ThomasR@Cardiff.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 11:18 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: In wich language is this?/strange website. Hi All, While I can't translate the language, the numbers ring bells, does anyone else like me think they are psalm or proverb numbers from the bible? Incidentaly does anyone know if any other religious texts have a numbering scheme, the Koran for instance? The possibility exists that this page could be the internet equivalent of a "Number Station" the method used by British intelligence to send signals to agents all it consists of is a specific frequency, (read url in this instance), and then blocks of numbers, in this case the 12:1 etc. Could be an interesting method of communication for DG cells CHRISTOPHER assigns each cell a URL on one of the secure servers and bang instant secure communication for one time messages, just log in in an internet cafe and browse to it. Later Rob. > The first looks like Polish to me, although we have several Poles on > the list who should be able to confirm or deny. The second is > probably Cyrillic which is coming across as ASCII gibberish since your > system is not equipped to display it properly. It may be that the > Greek is just that --Greek. Unfortunately, I don't believe we have > any Greek-speakers on the list. So, Alex, what's the Polish say? > > Diego Garcia wrote: > > > .....................an excerpt of the first text > > > > a thousand two hundred and threescore days > > .....................an excerpt of the second text. > > > > 12: 1 From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Konrad Talmont-Kaminski [ktk@silas-1.cc.monash.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:03 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Newbie write-up The obligatory newbie write-up Name: Konrad Talmont-Kaminski Occupation: Academic (Philosophy) Colleges, Degrees: B.A. (Hons), M.A., Ph.D. (within sneezing distance of finishing the Ph.D.) Citizenship: Polish/Australian Location: Melbourne, Australia Mental Disorders: None that I am aware of Sex: M Age: 29 STR: 13 DEX: 9 INT: 18 Idea: 90 CON: 11 APP: 13 POW: 14 Luck: 70 SIZ: 15 SAN: 70 EDU: 22 Know: 110 Damage Bonus: +1D4 Accounting 15% Did some in undergrad Anthropology 5% Broad reading Architecture 5% Ditto Archæology 5% Ditto * Art: Writing 45% All I ever seem to do is sit and write Astronomy 15% Another thing I like to read about Biology 15% Ditto Botany 5% Ditto * Cartography 45% I have been called 'Map-Man' at times Chemistry 10% The dregs of final year high school Computer Use 20% Windows is the mother of invention Cryptography 5% More reading Cthulhu Mythos 0% It doesn't exist and, anyway, what's a Korfuloo? Electrical Repair 15% Like to open things up and look inside Electronics 5% Just don't ask me to put them back together Fast Talk 15% Debating has to be good for something Geology 5% A good friend is a geologist * History 45% Ancient Greek, Medieval and Polish Law 15% Too many lawyer friends and having to do probate * Library Use 65% Eleven years of humanity degrees at work Mathematics 20% More years of study than I care to think of Mechanical Repair 25% More looking about in the inards of things Medicine 10% I hate the sight of blood Own Language: Polish 85% Haven't been using it as much Other own Language: English 110% * Philosophy 65% How could that be DG-useful? Photography 15% My brother is a photographer Physics 15% I would like to understand it and did some at uni Psychoanalysis 5% Reading Psychology 15% Ditto Rifle 25% .22 in high school Zoology 5% More reading Combat skills such as 'punch'? Let's be honest - I'm a non-combatant. If faced by any threat larger than a small dog the response will invariably be a hasty retrograde maneouver, i.e. bugging on out of there. Appearance: Six foot two. Two hundred pounds. Causasian. Long straight dark brown hair. Blue eyes. Casually dressed in a long-sleeved shirt, trousers and dark brown boots. Out of shape. Location: Most often found in front of computer, either at home or at university, typing the almost finished doctorate. DG usefulness: Some research and writing skills. Could be used to examine sundry english or polish texts and write up reports, translations or summaries. Can't think of any possible DG use for the philosophical knowledge though the analytical skills would be sure to be useful. Likely to be very sceptical of any paranormal claims. Possibly will even argue the point after actual experience of the paranormal. Unlikely to be willing to maintain secrecy due to personal beliefs. Cheers, -- Konrad Talmont-Kaminski Men are disturbed not by things, ktk@silas.cc.monash.edu.au but by the view which they take of Dept Philosophy Monash Uni things. Clayton 3168 AUSTRALIA Epictetus, _Enchiridion V_ From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Marco S.Subias [MSubias@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:11 PM To: Delta Green Subject: DG: Fractal Gods outdated? Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only I'm thinking of running Fractal Gods, from The Stars are Right, as an opening scenario, before starting my home-grown campaign, but not being well informed about computers, wish to ask a question of my fellow keepers better informed about computer related matters; Is it still reasonable for computer centered fanzines to be sent out on hard disks? Or are such things now distributed on line or in some other manner? This is a scenario from 1992, so perhaps this is an anachronism. In addition, if anyone has suggestions about the strengths or weaknesses of this scenario, and/or how it might be tweaked, I'd certainly be interested in ideas. Thanks much Marco From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Carlos Marti Tortes [cmartitortes@altavista.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:31 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Fractal Gods outdated? On Mon, 07 February 2000, "Marco S.Subias" wrote: > > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > I'm thinking of running Fractal Gods, from The Stars are Right, as an > opening scenario, before starting my home-grown campaign, but not being > well informed about computers, wish to ask a question of my fellow > keepers better informed about computer related matters; > > Is it still reasonable for computer centered fanzines to be sent out on > hard disks? Or are such things now distributed on line or in some other > manner? This is a scenario from 1992, so perhaps this is an > anachronism. It is a really anachronism today (and for some years). Now you can download e-zines using explorer, netscape or whatever you use for surfing the net. Of course, it also depends on your modem :-) > In addition, if anyone has suggestions about the strengths or weaknesses > of this scenario, and/or how it might be tweaked, I'd certainly be > interested in ideas. Take a look at Allan's write-ups. He has a very good conversion of this scenario to DG: >Allan Goodall agoodall@interlog.com >Goodall's Grotto: http://www.interlog.com/~agoodall/ Good luck, Carlos. ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Andrew Kenrick [andrew.kenrick7@virgin.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 1:27 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Re: Fractal Gods outdated? > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > Keepers' eyes only > I'm thinking of running Fractal Gods, from The Stars are Right just picked up a copy myself to pillage for DG! > Is it still reasonable for computer centered fanzines to be sent out on > hard disks? Or are such things now distributed on line or in some other > manner? This is a scenario from 1992, so perhaps this is an > anachronism. you might like to check out the Allan Goodalls DG write ups at: http://www.interlog.com/~agoodall/index.htm he adapted Fractal Gods to DG, including an MJ12 side plot. he also updated it, so that the magazine was an e-zine, distributed by email. this makes much more sense than distribution by disk. on a side note, has anyone adapted any of the other scenarios from the Stars are right to DG? i'd be interested in any ideas they might have. Andrew From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Marco S.Subias [MSubias@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 12:15 AM To: Delta Green Subject: Re: DG: Recovering data (keepers eyes' only) Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only Keepers' eyes only Anyway, assuming the evidence (an e-mailed fractal graphics program) was on a computer, and the computer was destroyed, and great effort was made by a skilled programmer to erase the program, how can the investigators recover the data and find out (part of) what's going on? "If the program was emailed, there is a much simpler way to recover it. Just about all email is kept in a lot of places on the Internet. There are lots of caches, mail forwarding servers and others who maintain archives dating rather far back." Yes, but the pcs have to know what they are looking for first, which is why somehow finding the data in the destroyed computer seems more practical. If the pcs don't know that a graphics program delevered via e-mail started the process that drove the computer owner to madness, suicide, and the destruction of his computer, how can they know what to look for in caches, mailing servers, etc? "The only real defence against this is strong cryptography. This also has weaknesses, users commonly choose weak passphrases which will compromise security. A skilled computer security specialist will be able to break most naively applied encryption." Might a very skilled computer enthusiast who limits his mailing list to a small number of individuals not be able to enact strong security? > I seem to remember a Tom Clancey novel claiming that even after a > disc was deliberately disrupted by a magnet, the data could be > recovered. Is this true? If so, how would this be done? "This can be done. There are laboratories that specialize in recovering data from physically damaged and even destroyed (as in chopped to granules) hard disks. With the proper equipment they claim to be able to recover six layers of information from a hard disk." > Our pc group includes an extremely skilled computer/electronics > person. "Skill isn't enough here. Specialized lab equipment would be needed. It's not unfeasible that this person has contacts who can help him do this, and if he's got enough of a rep he may even be permitted to be there while they do it, to make sure they don't inadvertedly access any of the recovered material." The player sees her pc's as being on the cutting edge of developing computer software, and working for some sort of high tech company. What sort of companies or government organizations would maintain such a lab? The pc might already work for a company that maintains that sort of equipment. Marco From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Jesper Anderson [jesper@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 11:19 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Recovering data (keepers eyes' only) On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 04:58:29AM +0100, Jesper Anderson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 08:06:38PM -0800, Marco S.Subias wrote: > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > > > > > Anyway, assuming the evidence (an e-mailed fractal graphics program) > > was on a computer, and the computer was destroyed, and great effort > > was made by a skilled pogrammer to erase the program, how can the > > investigators recover the data and find out (part of) what's going > > on? Replying to myself here, as I forgot a couple of evident points. If both the sender and receiver of the fractal graphics program are highly skilled at computer security procedures and sufficiently paranoid, the software is impossible to recover without access to the originating computer or "persuasion" of the receiver. A properly done encryption will for all practical purposes be unbreakable, and a paranoid decryption will take place in the target computers physical memory _only_, with no traces of the decrypted data making it to disk (not even to virtual memory). It's also possible to run a program completely from and in physical memory. Thus, there will be nothing to recover from disk. This is standard procedure with encrypted mail, with the exception of Wintel machines. For game purposes and if you wish the players to recover the data, just have the receiver be less paranoid than this. Then the software can be recovered in a laboratory or by hacking the target computer. Jesper -- Assassination can seldom be employed with a clear conscience. Persons who are morally squeamish should not attempt it. -- CIA, "Operation PB Success" training files From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Carlos Marti Tortes [cmartitortes@altavista.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 2:49 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Recovering data (keepers eyes' only) On Mon, 07 February 2000, "Marco S.Subias" wrote: > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > > Keepers' eyes only > > > BTW, I tried the link, and found some good content, but could not find > any content related to Fractal Gods. If anyone has the link handy, I'd > like it, but if not, I'm sure I can run the scenario just fine. http://www.interlog.com/~agoodall/dg15feb1998.htm http://www.interlog.com/~agoodall/dg15mar1998.htm http://www.interlog.com/~agoodall/dg26apr1998.htm > I seem to remember a Tom Clancey novel claiming that even after a disc > was deliberately disrupted by a magnet, the data could be recovered. Is > this true? If so, how would this be done? Our pc group includes an > extremely skilled computer/electronics person. I think the FBI has a lab dedicated to this. Try to read the FBI text at Delta Green home. Also, I am quite sure the NSA will have something similar at least. Carlos. ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of didier garcia [didier1gar@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:37 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: RE: DG: Enolsis in France The "Interministerial Mission for the Fight against sects' means : 'Mission Interministérielle de lutte contre les sectes'. But this is not really an agency, this is managed by different officials linked with the 'ministére de l'intérieur', and I think the 'Renseignements généreaux' are not so far. Their goal is to identify sects, and to present their report to the Prime Minister, with the help of different 'juges d'instruction' (judges) directing sect trials. Their main target is of course the scientology church, but also the remnants of the 'temple solaire'. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of PM [mermoud@easynet.fr] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 4:28 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: RE: DG: Enolsis in France >Jerome, this French official body "Interministerial Mission for the Fight >Against Sects" in the Reuters quote, what's its name in French? Mission interministerielle de lutte contre les sectes. >I'm only asking in the interests of further research (I smell an agency >template perhaps), Not really an agency more like a congress investgative comission. >and as a Frenchman you might be able to answer another >question as well: does this mission use intelligence collected by the >Renseignements Généraux? As far as is known, no. The RG are used on more specific information missions, supposed to have a shorter-term effect. ============================================= Patrice Mermoud (Paris - France) mermoud@easynet.fr ============================================= From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of box_nine@ix.netcom.com Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:59 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Re: Dodgy High Tech Companies Someone asked: > The player sees her pc's as being on the cutting edge of developing> computer software, and working for some sort of high tech company. What > sort of companies or government organizations would maintain such a lab? Los Alamos is heavily into supercomputing and advanced computing applications. Check out http://aha-public.lanl.gov/cgi-bin/tools/aha/aha.cgi?category_path=%2FComputing%23Information_Sciences%2FSupercomputing for materials on supercomputing specifically. Steven From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Jesper Anderson [jesper@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:32 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: More Computer Questions (keepers' eyes only) On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 10:53:55AM -0800, Marco S.Subias wrote: > keepers' eyes only > > > > keepers' eyes only > > > > keepers' eyes only > > > > keepers' eyes only > > > > keepers' eyes only > > > > (1) by using government authority, the pcs should be able to access > phone records. [snip] > By accesing the distribution point, can they determine where all the > copies of the mailing list have been sent? If the distribution has been done via email, the involved mail servers will have all needed data to find out who received the mail. It might take some digging, and maybe waving some badges around, but it's all available. After recovering the email addresses of those who received the program it's possible to trace them all the way to their physical location. This can be guarded against, but it's extremely difficult to maintain a government proof secret digital identity. Unless there is some extremely pressing reason to do so, it's unlikely any of the mailing list recipients have done so. Naive protection, like connecting through an anon server and using anon connection proxies, will make it more difficult to find the recipient and effectively block casual intrusion, but it will not stop a determined, government enforced attempt. This attempt will most likely violate several laws, but that's hardly a problem for DG operatives. A skilled, paranoid recipient using several layers of protection will still be impossible to locate. However, it's very difficult and limiting to maintain this level of security. > (2) Assuming the pcs deduce the origin of the fractal program, and > locate the web page where it is available, by hacking properly, can they > figure out who accessed the fractal program so they can contact the > downloaders and warn them of a "virus" in the program, and/or make sure > the other computer fans have not been damaged by the mythos? If the distribution is done solely through a mailing list, the program won't be available on a web page. > In other words, will (can) the web page keep track of the e-address > to which the fractal program has been downloaded. If the program has been published on a web site _in addition_ to being distributed by email, it is very likely the web site will contain records of all machines who have downloaded the program. As long as there number in the tens, or at most hundreds, it's definitely possible to trace them all. Here even a naive protection such as an anon proxy will help tremendously in keeping the downloader's identity secret, unless the maintainer of the proxy can be persuaded to give up the log files (very high profile and extremely unlikely to work). The exception is if the publisher keep their own permanent Internet presence, with their own web server. In this case it's unlikely there are any log files, unless the site maintainers are unskilled or have some use for log files. One problem for the agents, if the program is published on a web site, is cache servers. A lot of Internet service providers (ISPs) use large cache servers to reduce strain on their networks. The program may have been cached on one or several of these cache servers. Finding those and tracking those who download from them will be a major undertaking. > I suppose they can just post a message on the mailing list, but I'm > curious if this would work too. If the program has been made available on a web server, the downloaders do not necessarily have to be on the mailing list. > (3) Assuming the pcs want to try, would it be fairly easy for a > skilled computer person to hack into the web page and destroy the > mythos fractal program in order to prevent anyone else from > downloading it? If the program is available on a web server, an official phone call to the web server maintainer explaining that the material is porn and/or illegal will quickly take care of the problem. Not even the most liberal foreign web hotels allow illegal material. If the program is on a privately owned and maintained web server, it can still be blocked. Those who keep the server buy their Internet connection from someone who can be "persuaded" to stop selling them the service. They will also be able to provide the agents with the location of the server. Of course, if the creators of the program wish to spread it to the world, there is no way to stop them. They'll simply dump it on lots of web servers, news groups and anon ftp sites and it will be just about impossible to locate all copies. > Any information that can help me understand how the pcs can track the > mailing list, the origin of the mythos fractal program, and destroy > the program itself, will be greatly appreciated. In summary; If the program is sent out by email _only_, the emails can be traced and the recipients found, or at least contacted. To do this requires some hacking of email servers, cross checking log files and some phone calls to various service providers. If the program is made available on a web site, tracking those who have it takes more work and some may slip through the cracks. Most can be found and contacted, but the program can have spread to various cache servers and will be difficult to wipe off the Internet. In short, the shit has hit the fan and mopping up will be very difficult. If the players walk through the scenario too easily, an evil twist would be to let one of the recipients of the original email publish it on various Internet channels. This will escalate the problem severely. Jesper -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 2:26 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Secure Comm CD In a message dated 00-02-09 01:19:07 EST, you write: << Two passwords would be preferred. One for starting the program and one for connecting to the server. For connecting to the server, a one time password should be used. This ensures maximum safety. A one time password works once, then a new password is needed. Usually the passwords are calculated using a paper or electronic crypto key. Even if the key is compromised, the procedure to generate the password is unknown and the data is safe. Properly done security does not depend on secrecy of the software and algorithms used, so even if the CD software is compromised the impact to other users of the system is minimal.>> Yes indeedy. Possession of the CD should not equal access to the system. The CD system seems like a good 'McDonald's cash register" approach to secure communications among various entities. RL has taught me that if a user can foul themselves up, they will. And DG does recruit rocket scientists who would naturally want to tweak their tools (I'm buddies with all kinds of security folk, so I hear the stories). As for one time codes and such, I've been looking into hide-in-plain-sight (HIPS) methods. "My" operatives check into various newsgroups to get their daily code; the CD could include the encryption program that utilizes it. Naturally, these newsgroups will be places like alt.binaries.erotica.plumpers, seasoned with the occasional alt.discussion.whitesupremacy, or possibly a B&D mailing list. Maybe a mailing list of Lotto fanatics, that would be a great place for people swapping series of numbers to hide some kernels among the chaff. Incidentally, a great place to hide a long string of numbers and letters is in the PGP signature. Hehe, I love the idea of the security being the message. << > The program automatically connects to a local server, sends and receives email, and does all the encryption for you. This should work, given either a networked Internet connection or a modem attached to the target computer. In a corporate or government environment it might require a computer use check to get the settings right, as firewalls and other pesky annoyances may be in effect.>> Good point. Reemphasize it. Don't do this stuff at work. Get your agents laptops or home PCs (of whatever flavor) but it is never a good idea to shit where you eat. <> Porno is always good for a distraction. The more embarassing socially and professionally, the better. Also consider a bootleg import CD of one of the agent's favorite bands. With the OS software being minimal, there could really be some music tracks. The "expensive hard to find CD" would explain why the agent takes such good care of it and won't lend it out. But he could make a tape of the songs, or play them for anyone curious. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 1:10 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: SPOILERS for 1980 'Virus' (was Re: DG: cthonian news flash?) Greetings. Jay cast his own version of the resurrection spell on something banned and unameable. > Though I risk resurrecting the oft-banned movie thread, do you mean >the recent movie with Jamie Lee Curtis and Donald Sutherland? No. The movie in question is Fukkatsu ni Hi, Japan 1980, Hiroyuki Kodokawa Films 155 minutes (yep kids, two hours and thirtyfive!) Distributed in the west as 'Virus' Featuring - Masao Kusakari, Olivia Hussey, Bo Svenson, Chuck Connors and many others. As it is self-evident that less people than I believed were exposed to this depressing masterpiece, spoilers follow, then a capsule plot overview. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER OK, here goes. An East German-developed biological weapon gets accidentally released and wipes out most of humanity. Only 800 people survive, the members of internatuional expeditions to Antartica (where the bug can't spread because of the cold) and the crew of a Brit sub. These build a miniature society in the former American base and start making plans for the future. A few years pass. Then the plot thickens. When increasing seismic shocks are registered by automatic devices in the now deserted Washington DC area, the polar guys start getting nervous. The US defence computers (possibly still running) might mistake a strong enough shock for a nuclear attack, and coupling this with the lack of human activity in the area, decide that DC has been nuked and start a retaliation automatic attack on Russia. As soon as Russia gets hit, the russky computers will click likewise, and shoot their own missiles - one of which is aimed at the Antartica base. To avoid the risk of being nuked by mistake, two volunteers (Kusakari and Svenson) are sent to DC (courtesy of the British submarine) to turn off the computers before the big one hits. They do not make it. BANG As I said, it's a slow-moving, overserious and outright depressing movie. And yet - think about the possibilities as an alternate Endtimes scenario..... Just an Idea. Sorry for the long post. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@libero.it The Ice Cave - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/ice_cave.htm From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Colin Creitz [cocst6+@pitt.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 4:20 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Recovering data (keepers eyes' only) On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jesper Anderson wrote: > Two passwords would be preferred. One for starting the program and one > for connecting to the server. For connecting to the server, a one time > password should be used. This ensures maximum safety. You mention the use of a duress password leading to the honeypot system later, but two passwords aren't any more desirable than one long one, really. The idea of using a one-time password, though, is a good one. I remember when I was doing reasearch which involved accessing a medical records database at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center; they gave me a little credit-card sized (but rigid, and thus annoyingly unstorable in my wallet) gizmo which generated a password based on a synced clock every 10 seconds or so. I guess that if that had been a military app, the little device would be easily breakable by bending it or dropping it - but the idea is that it is easier to secure a physical key than a notional one. Better would have been to use a linear-congruential generator with secret parameters and use successive passwords generated by it. I imagine a good PK system could be put to work here, assuming the physical security of the medium on which the agent's private key is stored. > Properly done security does not depend on secrecy of the software and > algorithms used, so even if the CD software is compromised the impact > to other users of the system is minimal. But of course 'security through obscurity' can't hurt either. Might as well lay down barbed wire in front of the 50mm emplacements, right? > Virtual memory may use the hard disk to store data; the program should > use the CD and physical memory *only* to ensure irrecoverability of > data. This makes the hardware requirements more stringy (3 megs should > do it, 6 megs on a PPC) but ensures safety. Of course, this is only practical from a bootable CD which can ensure that no silly OS abstraction writes its sensitive data to disk during a swap. Plan on a reboot for the system using this CD. > If a second layer of confusion could be useful, old or less dangerous > information may be encrypted and steganographed into the visible data. Stegnography, for the unintiated, is hiding your sensitive data inside nonsensitive data. The most easily accomplished case is using jpged images or mpegged movies (or any lossily-compressed file, say mp3 music) for their extra bits, imperceptibly hiding a couple of K of data in a meg of (essentially) noise. Problem here is that you'd need to keep the stegno algorithm on the disk, compromising it. You could theoretically use a long password to determine the distribution of the bits through the stegnographed data, but that's still crackable. But the idea of having the disk show up differently when it's simply loaded into an already-booted computer than when it's booted is a good one, probably more effective and more practical. We could also mention data thresholding - Dr. Dobb's Journal ran an article recently (April 98) on the use of thresholding methods for splitting data securely among multiple parties, and while I won't go into detail unless there's serious interest (this discussion could get very long), the high-level abstraction is that striping/thresholding methods allow data to be securely split among multiple parties such that only if some critical number of them put their data together can even a single bit be recovered (striping, traditionally, would give 1/n bits of the data to n parties, maybe with some redundancy; this is more secure). For instance, of three members of a cell are in on threshold-secured data, it can be arranged such that only if two of them are together can they read the data, or only if all three of them are together. Using the visual scheme described in the DDJ article would also allow agents to identify themselves to members of other cells in a way as secure as any physical-key method, and very dramatically to boot. DDJ will sell you a virtual copy of the article online for $4-5 IIRC or mail you a physical copy of the magazine for a bit more; technical information (I cannot vouch for its readability but it comes well recommended) can be found at http://www.cs.uwm.edu/faculty/desmedt/topics-threshold.html ...by following the link through the security arrangements to the survey article. You might do better searching for information on threshold security schemes than I did; all I found were course listings for CS department security courses at dozens of universities... ------------------------ Colin Creitz [cocst6@pitt.edu] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of aranwyth@dnet.co.uk Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 4:50 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Trouble in Greendale USER WALT, WELCOME TO FILE VIEWER 3.1a >Load 061324.adv pgp LOADING FILE 061324.adv PGPY ================== <<< IMMEDIATE ADVISORY >>> ================== FROM: A Cell To: Cell W Team leader PRIORITY BETA TWO END OPERATIONS In relation to the Jessup family disappearances are connected to the Mi-Go's ongoing operations on Earth. They have been taken to Yuggoth for "testing". They have been successfully breeding human Mi-Go hybrids for the last 200 years. There is now a whole town of Jessup hybrids. The town is an exact replica of Greendale, New Hampshire. In the case of Linda and Clancy Jessup, both have accidently crossed one of the boundries between the 2 towns. Linda returned via the portal in the barn's cellar room. Neither of these girls was meant to be taken. The Mi-Go assure us that they are finished with the Jessup family. They are not invloved on the ransom note. Clancy will be returned via the same portal. Addendum: One further piece of information during the tranmission we picked up some background 'chatter' . The techies managed to lift the following phrase from the recording; 'Who is your Mi-Go daddy' be seeing you, Alphonse From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Chris Pencis [cpencis@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:08 PM To: Delta Green Subject: DG: Nazi grail thread Anyone have the Nazi/Grail hunting thread archived somewhere? I can really use it for prep for a DG 1930's middle eastern type scenario I'm working up.... Chris --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:49 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Nazi grail thread Greetings. Chris writes >Anyone have the Nazi/Grail hunting thread archived somewhere? Hell, no. I was between providers at the time and I lost the final part of it. So, if someone has it stashed away and mails it to Chris, could please make me a carbon copy? Thanks! Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@libero.it The Ice Cave - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/ice_cave.htm From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Colin Creitz [cocst6+@pitt.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:15 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Glove Cleaner post I know I should have gotten a copy of a post discussing this phenomenon, but I didn't. I couldn't find it in either of the archives (the old one at Nocturne and the Ice Cave) I checked. Could someone either repost it or point me to an archive? ------------------------ Colin Creitz [cocst6@pitt.edu] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Nick Brownlow [stabernide@netscape.net] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 6:51 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: [DG: Night of the Lepus] >So I am asking: any good guess about what the 'flying things' that >attacked >the first mission's choppers were? I'd always assumed (most likely incorrectly, given the information/disinformation hinted at in RoE) that the entities in question were Flying Polyps, summoned up from some underground site they frequented locally. Perhaps some Yithians could be worked into a scenario at this stage as a consequence; displaying both obstructive and bizzare behaviour towards the DG investigation as required. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:37 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: An Item of Mutual Interest Greetings. Something suggestive surfaced as I was researching some fiction I'm writing, and I guessed some of our list members (expecially those residing in Japan) might be interested. I quote from an old text: . An outstanding feature of Japanese archeaeology is that cultura A appears to have been a higher one than Culture B, which is represented by Ainu artifacts. Culture A is that of a pre-Ainu found inhabiting parts of the archipelago, and called the Koro-pok-guru. The name signifies 'the people having depressions', and is usually rendered by western writers as 'Pit-dwellers'. In the Japanese writings the Koro-pok-guru are referred to as 'the small people' and 'earth spiders'. During the winter season the Koro-pok-guru lived in pit-houses, with conical or bee-hive roofs. the depth of these houses was greater on slopes and exposed heights than on low-lying ground. [some snippage of pottery descriptions] . [The Ainu] claim to have exterminated the Koro-pok-guru [...] a people of short stature, with roundish heads, the men having short, thick beards, and being quite different in general appearance from the 'hairy Ainu' with long, flowing beards. [more snippage of various issues, including the Ainu being 'the hairiest people in the world' - LOL] . It is of special interest to note that mummification was practised by some Ainu tribes or families. Wheter or not they acquired this custom from the Koro-pok-guru is uncertain. The book then briefly describes the Dragon Mother myth (the DM being a sort of fish-woman), as possibly derived from the Koro-pok-guru religion, and as clearly connected to . the various fish forms of Greek and Oriental religions, the dagon and Derceto of the Philistines, the Oannes of the assyrians, Eurynome of the greek legends, and the like. All quotes are from 'Myths and Legends of China and Japan', Donald A. Mackenzie, no first printing data but the latest quoted reference is a 1915 book, so there. >From an archaeological POW, even an amateur like me can smell the fishiness of much of the theories expounded by the author. On the other hand, all of the above reminded me of the old discussion about Japan-based Tcho-tcho tribes. I expecially love the bit about "earth spiders". Spiders from Leng, anybody? Now I'll just have to weave the lot in my narrative. End of post. Take care. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@libero.it The Ice Cave - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/ice_cave.htm