From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:43 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Whole Earth Ent. In a message dated 00-04-14 10:25:02 EDT, you write: << Are the WE Enterprises people the folks who put out the Whole Earth Catalog? I saw that once when I was a kid, some ex-hippie friends of my parents were really into it ("ex-hippie" may have nothing to do with it, but I tend to equate faded 60's idealism and early 1980's close-to-midlife stress, as ripe ground for nutty life choices). You do speak of the WE'ers as being *like* a cult....are they actually? >> Whole Earth Enterprises was described in EOv2: The Fate. There were two pages about it, and not much detail given. No characters or personalities or plot threads. Whole Earth Enterprises was presented as more of a situation than a fully delineated organization. I hope that this is because expansion is planned for the future, because I found WEE to be one of the most evocative organizations in the DG pantheon. It's just ambitious monkeys being their usual sociopathic selves and screwing the world willy nilly to get a bigger office. I find WEE to be creepier than the basements of Club Apocalypse, because I've met the RW counterparts of the WEE hierarchy. I'm presuming that Whole Earth Enterprises was named that precisely because of the Whole Earth Catalogue and the mental associations named. There is something about a corporation called Whole Earth Enterprises getting deeply into toxic waste dumping in the Third World, and whaling, and scorched earth land clearing, and baby seal clubbing and Third World child labor sweat shops etc. etc. etc. that reeks of Toetapper "humor." And NO Mythos activity. The cult like stuffed described wasn't in EOv2, but that's the way *I* would use them. Incidentally, what I described was pretty much what happens in the RW, at least in the parts I've seen. If all you see in WEE is some evil Dilbert scenario, look closer. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:53 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: The Lyndon LaRouche seal of approval In a message dated 00-04-14 11:11:47 EDT, you write: << 23 Skidoo, man. He's so whacky, I'm not even sure he makes a good blind for whatever real conspiracy he's hiding. He's just all _over_ the place. Maybe the effects of a SAN-deficient quadruple-agent? >> Yep, he's so whacky that he makes conspiracy theory in general look suspect. I'd think that any conspiracy that wants to be dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic would do well to have a mysterious MIB visit Mr. LaRouche and spill all, exhorting him to tell the world before it's too late. Would you trust any information that came to you via a LaRouche handout? Would you trust info from other sources that say the same thing as a LaRouche handout? Mark McFadden Furthermore, if I was running a conspiracy, the first thing I'd do is create an organization dedicated to fighting my conspiracy and warning the world of my evil plans. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:02 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: AMWAY In a message dated 00-04-14 12:39:08 EDT, you write: << Humorous? Speak for yourself!! Carnivorously expanding, eating lives and economies, AMWAY is unquestionably the memetic/technological nucleus of a nascent but growing GOO that will make big C look like a cuddly toy. >> In our family, anyone who gets involved with Amway, or Shaklee or any of the other "NOT-a-pyramid-scheme" organizations is simply not invited over for the holidays until they come to their senses. Tough love. Mark McFadden I once wrote a story about a pimp that switched over to Amway sales. He was a roaring success because he didn't change his work habits or methodology. Actually, I don't think Amway is any worse than the usual run of businesses selling "independence and a guaranteed income", they just have the okeydoke down to a science. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:05 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics In a message dated 00-04-14 13:19:54 EDT, you write: << Of course I _don't_ think they use "steam engines". Instead, I suspect you have biological entities whose whole metabolism is based on exploiting differences in background temperature between adjacent Domains. >> Maxwell's Demon? Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of EdDrWho@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:08 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: AMWAY In a message dated 4/14/00 8:06:25 PM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: > In our family, anyone who gets involved with Amway, or Shaklee or any of the > other "NOT-a-pyramid-scheme" organizations is simply not invited over for > the > holidays until they come to their senses. :::horror-struck::: We used to buy Shaklee products. Time to fail the the ol' SAN check and grab the 12-gauge... From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of David and Jenny Blewer [blewer@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:13 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Re: Re: Static electricity > > > Ok, bear with me here. Who else has been experiencing an increase in > static > > electric shocks since the millennium? > Before the Millennium, I never experienced static electric shocks, my wife, however, risked electrocution every time she went out. Since though I wince every time I even get near metal, I have even had a couple of shocks of off my children.... Cheers Dave http://www.btinternet.com/~blewer/genocide-lounge.htm Home of the Feng Shui FAQ and other fine stuff From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Mused [mused@idirect.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:29 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Re: Static electricity I got a shock off of a piece of cheese! And a ceramic mug (which I thought was impossible) One shock (witnessed) was actually heard in the next office and jumped almost 3/4 of an inch Typical Event at Work: Hi Mike.. Howdy BZZZT Ooh, bet that one stung -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Turner To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Date: Friday, April 14, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: DG: Static electricity >Ok, bear with me here. Who else has been experiencing an increase in static >electric shocks since the millennium? > >I've been getting them off the vending machines in work, the car, the damn >CAT, pieces of clothing and all kinds of stuff. I never, ever got them >before. Just tonight three other people independently told me they had been >getting them a lot over the last few months. I never told them I was >getting them before they brought this topic up. > >Something's wrong, I tell you! It's HAARP or something! Arghhhhh!!!! > >JT From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Mused [mused@idirect.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:32 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: AMWAY I was wondering if you needed to buy anything to clean that shotgun? We have a special cleaner right h(BOOM, BOOM, clack, punt, punt, clink, clink, clack, BOOM BOOM) Just to check, everyone understands that sequence of onomatapeic (sp?) sounds? -----Original Message----- From: EdDrWho@aol.com To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Date: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: Re: DG: Re: AMWAY >In a message dated 4/14/00 8:06:25 PM Central Daylight Time, >LizardRoi@aol.com writes: > >> In our family, anyone who gets involved with Amway, or Shaklee or any of >the >> other "NOT-a-pyramid-scheme" organizations is simply not invited over for >> the >> holidays until they come to their senses. > >:::horror-struck::: We used to buy Shaklee products. > >Time to fail the the ol' SAN check and grab the 12-gauge... From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:18 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics William Timmons, you quoted an entire message including signature that ran to over two pages before you began to reply. Please please, with sugar on it, would you puh-leeeeese trim your quotes just a little. Por favor? You have some good things to say, finally, after scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and checking to see if maybe a line was inserted in there somewhere. Anyone interested in the thread has already read the message you replied to, why do you present it again? Or would you rather be a sociopath? :-P Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Mused [mused@idirect.com] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:34 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Re: Re: Re: Static electricity OKay, I am curious now. What do you know that will get you killed before you can reply to the list? -----Original Message----- From: David and Jenny Blewer To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Date: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: DG: Re: Re: Static electricity >> >> > Ok, bear with me here. Who else has been experiencing an increase in >> static >> > electric shocks since the millennium? >> >Before the Millennium, I never experienced static electric shocks, my wife, >however, risked electrocution every time she went out. > >Since though I wince every time I even get near metal, I have even had a >couple of shocks of off my children.... > >Cheers >Dave >http://www.btinternet.com/~blewer/genocide-lounge.htm >Home of the Feng Shui FAQ and other fine stuff From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of EdDrWho@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:23 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: AMWAY In a message dated 4/14/00 8:21:40 PM Central Daylight Time, mused@idirect.com writes: > Just to check, everyone understands that sequence of onomatapeic (sp?) > sounds? It was theme music, right? Or hundreds of cheery sales reps out working, right? From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:49 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics In a message dated 00-04-14 14:52:17 EDT, you write: << What was the cold war for? >> O'Brien pretty much spells it out in 1984. To maintain absolute control of the citizens, it is essential to keep the country at war. Censorship? There's a war on. Strikes broken by troops? There's a war on. Eroding standard of living? Tighten your belts, there's a war on. Suspension of basic rights in the interests of national security? Well, duh. There's a war on. Restrictions on travel? There's a war on. Can't find a market for your aerospace industry? There's a *Cold* War on. Let's stock up. Having so much fun that you just don't want the party to stop until it has inflated into the largest military infrastructure and Defense budget in the history of human life? No sweat, luckily, there's a war on. Robert Heinlein told an anecdote about talking to (IIRC) an old Annapolis classmate who was in Intelligence. The gist of the conversation was: "Bob, do you remember our classes in photo recon and threat estimation?" "Yes." "Here's an unclassified satellite photo of Moscow. Count the roads, count the railroads, add in any river traffic. Using the techniques we all learned in the military and which are still in use in intelligence today, tell me what you estimate the sustainable population of this city could be. Then compare the number you get with what it says in all the almanacs, CIA Factbooks and atlases. I know why the Soviets are inflating their figures, but why are we not correcting them? Why are we helping them promote this disinformation? In short, why are we helping them to *appear* as formidable as they want to be?" Mark McFadden Which uses up my Heinlein references for the month. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of EdDrWho@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:56 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics In a message dated 4/14/00 8:54:48 PM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: > Which uses up my Heinlein references for the month. Good. I'dve asked ANDREA to kill you otherwise. Can't stand that man... From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:02 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Good film In a message dated 00-04-14 15:28:05 EDT, you write: << Anyway - good solid film from a book by Richard Matheson. Probabbly better than Sixth Sense, to which it will obviously be compared. Highly recommended. >> And a damn shame because of that. They really shouldn't be compared as they do not really resemble each other in content, presentation or intent. But they do both have people seeing dead people, so there you have it. It's hard to go wrong with a Richard Matheson story; you really have to strive for mediocrity to beat it into submission. ObDG: nothing overtly Mythos or conspiratorial, but if a neighbor called and asked the police to tell that guy to stop with the jackhammer, you'd have a great X-Files intro when they asked to "come inside and have a look around." BUT, I *love* the way the switch in his head got flipped as the result of a party game. There are some scenario seeds in that. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:20 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Static electricity In a message dated 00-04-14 15:58:48 EDT, you write: << Ok, bear with me here. Who else has been experiencing an increase in static electric shocks since the millennium? >> Damn. I actually noticed that. I haven't been picking them up inside, but I've been shocked by a few car doors recently. Annoying (and apparently inexplicable) enough to catch my attention. Mark McFadden Usually is not a shock hazard, as I have no potential. Ba dum ching. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:28 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics In a message dated 00-04-14 17:50:36 EDT, you write: << please dont let this kick off an off topic physics thread like we had a few weeks ago , even though i have started it . >> There wasn't one frickin' bit of that thread that was OT. It just wasn't about the ususal topical topics like who makes the best Glaser rounds and what are the chances of A Cell lending your cell a B-52 squadron. Mark McFadden Wait until the upcoming quantum computing / AI / hacking-the-GOOs thread From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:37 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Utraviolet In a message dated 00-04-14 18:40:31 EDT, you write: << I mean, it was made with great production values - good sets, actors who are usually in quality films, even good music, and in english of course, so.. er.. why? >> Because in spite of the obvious fact that PBS viewers will sit through a telethon to watch old episodes of Dr. Who they have seen before, and entire sections of new video stores are devoted to $20 tapes containing three episodes of English sitcoms that the buyers have seen before and the rush to sign up for BBC America when it first became available, the movers and shakers and wiser heads know that Americans would never watch a foreign show. That's why they make the big bucks. Mark McFadden "Hmmm. We *like* Fawlty Towers, don't get us wrong, but we feel that it would play better to a US audience if Basil was nicer. Maybe a kid could be worked in. A dog?" From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of forvalaka@juno.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:19 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Cc: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Re: Static electricity On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:46:50 -0500 "Abel Lindburg" writes: > You know, I should read that closer. I was getting static shocks as > early as > August, 1999. Not since the millennium. I started getting frequent static shocks back in August too! I thought it was a result of moving to Texas, different weather and all. Some days almost everything I touch gives me a shock. This never happened before. Perhaps the whole El Nino thing is a result of tampering with the weather. Maybe even of conflicting projects by different groups. Charles O. Baucum Jr. Mortuus non est quod in aeternum insiditur et aetate ignota mors ipsas finiretur From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of EdDrWho@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:42 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Utraviolet In a message dated 4/14/00 9:40:59 PM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: > Because in spite of the obvious fact that PBS viewers will sit through a > telethon to watch old episodes of Dr. Who they have seen before, and entire > sections of new video stores are devoted to $20 tapes containing three > episodes of English sitcoms that the buyers have seen before :::looks sheepish and quickly covers his Blackadder tapes:::: From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Anthony Baxter [anthony@interlink.com.au] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:03 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Utraviolet >>> LizardRoi@aol.com wrote > << I mean, it was made with great production values - good sets, actors who > are usually in quality films, even good music, and in english of course, so.. > er.. why? >> > [..] > "Hmmm. We *like* Fawlty Towers, don't get us wrong, but we feel that it > would play better to a US audience if Basil was nicer. Maybe a kid could be > worked in. A dog?" Bear in mind the American attempted remake of Red Dwarf, where Cat was made a female (because a male character who preens and is obsessed with how he looks is just not on) and Lister was made attractive. *shudder* Couldn't they just dub the voices into Merkin? Hey, they do it for Japanese stuff... On the subject of fine British series for getting into the mindset of investigators - Edge of Darkness. The conspiracy is pretty much Mythos- free (hm, maybe not) but the main characters, and the way they are motivated, is a great background for some DG agents... Anthony -- Anthony Baxter It's never too late to have a happy childhood. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Eckhard Huelshoff [EHuelshoff@t-online.de] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 2:50 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics EdDrWho@aol.com schrieb: > In a message dated 4/14/00 8:54:48 PM Central Daylight Time, > LizardRoi@aol.com writes: > > > Which uses up my Heinlein references for the month. > > Good. I'dve asked ANDREA to kill you otherwise. Can't stand that man... > Oh, Oh. Please NO re-run of the Heinlein:Bad Man / Heinlein:Good Man discussion. For those who are relatively new: This thread - beginning with a rather harmlesss discussion about "Starship Troopers" - erupted into an affair of several days with about 50 [ or more ] posts A DAY, many posts simply stating that a) Heinlein had fascist tendencies or b) Nope, he was not. ECKHARD From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Andy Robertson [andywrobertson@clara.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:32 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew John Farrow > please dont let this kick off an off topic physics thread like we had a few > weeks ago , even though i have started it . > Ominous lack of agreeing type noises. > but IMO the * physics * of the mythos( which is not *real*) allows the Gnop > keh to use the princple of maxwells demon . to its own ends - and there you > have it . > Maybe. Remember those Black Smokers at the sea bottom? The boundary between two very different "domains" (not in the Mythos sense, but). One bleeds into the other. Life surrounds the leison, feeding on the liberated energies. I have this vision of the early Universe like that: great blazing scars in Space where the physics of one Domain is rasping against another. On _both_ sides, in both Domains, you have life feeding off the energy liberated. So, what led to the "cross-Domain" entities? Symbiosis between the life forms on the two sides? Our cells have tiny internal organelles called mitochriondria, which carry out respiration and act as the "powerhouses". These mitochriondria were once independent free-living bacteria. Imagine living things where the _organelles in the cells_ come from different Domains! Once you have a simple living thing that can exploit the differential Physics of the two Domains, evolution can start to rock and roll. Maybe the end point is the things like Dimensional Shamblers and so on. Just speculation. Here comes Timmins with those damn plates again. The Glove Cleaner From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:26 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Static electricity Greetings. >I've been experiencing them when exiting cars near my home, and >occasionally when opening the front door (only from outside). This has >been going on since sometime last year. Same here, quite often. I generally blame the dry weather - but maybe I'm just striving to find a safe explanation. Maybe there's something to this story of electrosmog..... Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@libero.it The Ice Cave - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/ice_cave.htm From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:39 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Utraviolet Greetings. One small observation.... >Couldn't they just dub the voices into Merkin? Hey, they do it for >Japanese stuff... Are you kidding? . renaming characters . ofter changing their _sex_ without actually changing the character design . cutting out one third of each episode (too violent or too sexy) and . splicing in amateurishly done 'filler' . taking three different series, amputate and collate them to turn the whole into a single new, different product Ah! The entertainment industry is actively working to keep the Americans from getting raw non-American vibes. Why? And don't give me any Hollywood capitalism line, mr McFadden. We all well know that Glaaki moved to Hollywood in the '70s and now resides in the Santa Monica reservoir. Cheers! Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@libero.it The Ice Cave - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/ice_cave.htm From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:41 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics >For those who are relatively new: This thread - beginning with a rather harmlesss >discussion about "Starship Troopers" - erupted into an affair of several days >with about 50 [ or more ] posts A DAY, many posts simply stating that a) Heinlein >had fascist tendencies or b) Nope, he was not. Oh, yes he was ;> Sorry, could not resist that.... [after all I was rather quiet when the first thread erupted] Davide Mana From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Noyes [ft203004@fsinet.or.jp] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 4:11 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: RE: DG: Utraviolet > "Hmmm. We *like* Fawlty Towers, don't get us wrong, but we feel that it >would play better to a US audience if Basil was nicer. Maybe a kid could be >worked in. A dog?" Ah you have stumbled upon two of the guides I used when judging movies: Child or dog of any kind -5 points Dog dies (for real, as opposed to apparent death) +10 Child dies: +20 It's not that I actually want to see a child (or a dog for that matter; Old Yeller just tears me up) die in the movies, but whenever directors are brave enough to treat them like real creatures instead of indestructible cartoons, I have to give them a little bit of credit. Sleepy Hollow got an extra star just for that. Jay (Who realizes, upon rereading this post, just how bad he sounds... but who's going to post it anyway) From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 5:01 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Utraviolet In a message dated 4/15/00 1:48:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, doctor.dee@libero.it writes: << And don't give me any Hollywood capitalism line, mr McFadden. We all well know that Glaaki moved to Hollywood in the '70s and now resides in the Santa Monica reservoir. >> A new home was going to be made in the Valley, but Hollis Mulwray was haunted by the 500 lives lost when the Van der Lip dam gave way. Core samples showed that the bedrock was shale similar to the permeable shale in the Van der Lip disaster. He refused to build another dirt banked terminus dam with slopes of 2 1/2 to 1, one hundred twelve feet high with a 12,000 acre water surface. He said it wouldn't hold and he wouldn't build it. Noah Cross tried to reason with him, but Mulwray had some private conflict with Cross and wouldn't listen. Mulwray was replaced with someone who enjoyed sports fishing, the city was brought to the water, I tried to keep someone from being hurt and ended up guaranteeing it. These days - these days I do as little as possible. It's like Walsh said, "Forget it Mark, it's Chinatown." Mark McFadden "What I do may not be respectable, but I am. In this town I'm the leper with the most fingers." From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 5:02 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Static electricity In a message dated 4/15/00 1:48:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, doctor.dee@libero.it writes: << Same here, quite often. I generally blame the dry weather - but maybe I'm just striving to find a safe explanation. >> Oh sure, you all laughed at my Faraday hat, but I bet you're singing a new tune now, aren't you? Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Stephen Parkinson [stephen.parkinson7@virgin.net] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 5:44 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Static electricity 'UNLURK' Sorry, doesn't work. I live in Leeds & I've been getting them a lot too, since about the millennium & it rains a lot here. I just put it down to not being 'millenium compliant'. Steve7 'RELURK' -----Original Message----- From: Davide Mana To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Date: 15 April 2000 09:47 Subject: Re: DG: Static electricity >Greetings. > >>I've been experiencing them when exiting cars near my home, and >>occasionally when opening the front door (only from outside). This has >>been going on since sometime last year. > >Same here, quite often. >I generally blame the dry weather - but maybe I'm just striving to find a >safe explanation. > >Maybe there's something to this story of electrosmog..... From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Tolga Yanasik [yanasikt@superonline.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 6:19 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: photos for player aids. A weekly updated site for downloading photos of people for your player aids ; http://www.stpaul.gov/depts/police/prostitution_photos_current.html Can you spot Alzis ? :) Tolga From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Dave Farnell [superdave@disinfo.net] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 6:54 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re:DG: photos for player aids. On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:19:00 +0300 Tolga Yanasik wrote: >Can you spot Alzis ? :) Mitchell, or Skinner (shudder)? Yow--great rogue's gallery, Tolga. I'm back, folks, and I'll try to get Ch. 7 of "Angel" out soon. Vacation ended, bought a new computer, and have a new cable modem, but it's been taking a while to get things working right--apologies to anyone who tried to contact me offlist. I still can't access that account, but I've been skimming the archives (thanks once again, Shane!). It's good to be back. Dave From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Eckhard Huelshoff [EHuelshoff@t-online.de] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 7:04 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: photos for player aids. Tolga Yanasik schrieb: > A weekly updated site for downloading photos of people for your player > aids ; > > http://www.stpaul.gov/depts/police/prostitution_photos_current.html > > Can you spot Alzis ? :) Oh my, Tolga, how did you find that site? BTW: Anybody from that town on this list? Might be amusing to stumble upon one of your fellow listmates. ObDG: PCs use a couple of those sites for a [ probably Non-DGish ] investigation into prostitution. And while checking those sites they see the same face again and again in different cities, in different bearing different names. A cloning experiment by the government? Did the cloned men have a genetical programming that forces them to visit prostitutes [ probably a gene that causes a higher sex drive ]. And if they even cloned rather harmless guys, perhaps they did experiments with people bearing a genetical programming to become a murderer as well. ECKHARD From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Stephen Joseph Ellis [sje1@st-andrews.ac.uk] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:03 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Utraviolet On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 LizardRoi@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 00-04-14 18:40:31 EDT, you write: > > << I mean, it was made with great production values - good sets, actors who > are usually in quality films, even good music, and in english of course, so.. > er.. why? >> > I happened to read a copy of SFX last year that had an interview with the American in charge of rewriting or remaking Ultraviolet. Unfortunately, he was going on and on like an angst ridden Pale Puppy on how the Code 5's revealed so much about humanity, and how the entire series was about emotion and how he was determined to make it more so and explore the 'emotions' of the Code 5's even more. Its at this point that I realised that an American remake of Ultraviolet would be what 'Fitz' is to the original 'Cracker' tv series. Now my hopes rest solely on Joe Aherne (the original writer) making a second season. (Of which there were some rumours.) If anyone wants, I can dig out the old SFX and pass on the details. Steve. (Who never throws away any non-economics reference material) From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of William Timmins [wtimmins@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 7:57 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Static electricity Hmmm. How weird. I haven't experienced this at all... -=Will ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Tolga Yanasik [yanasikt@superonline.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:55 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: T.O.L.G.A.: Transforming Obedient Lifeform Generated for Assassination T.O.L.G.A.: Transforming Obedient Lifeform Generated for Assassination Yeah, that's me. You can learn the true meaning of your name from here ; http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-cyborger.html Well, I thought that someone may find a name for the MJ-12 cyborg in his/her campaign. And that I hope clears me from any allegations of being off-topic. Tolga From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Mused [mused@idirect.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 9:41 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics To keep your budget. If they are not formidable, then they can be ignored. obDG: Early DG probably ran into this. A few easy successes against low end Mythos critters with modern weapons and the top brass says "what threat?" So DG has to either inflate the enemy, or tackle something too powerful. -----Original Message----- >I know why the Soviets are inflating their figures, >but why are we not correcting them? Why are we helping them promote this >disinformation? In short, why are we helping them to *appear* as formidable >as they want to be?" From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Jeff Ewing [ambjpe@gis.net] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 9:44 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Utraviolet Synchronicity! There isn't a resevoir in Santa Monica, but there are a lot of others. I was just thinking of writing in to chide His Bescaled Majesty for the slowness of his "Guide to Movie LA," when I thought "Why don't you just write some LA material yourself, smart guy?" I'm working on the first installment of "Secret Waters of Los Angeles" right now. Jeff, who asks "How *is* that LA piece coming along, Mark? LizardRoi@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/15/00 1:48:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > doctor.dee@libero.it writes: > > << And don't give me any Hollywood capitalism line, mr McFadden. > We all well know that Glaaki moved to Hollywood in the '70s and now resides > in the Santa Monica reservoir. >> > [snip para-Cinatown rap] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of EdDrWho@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 9:55 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Gnoph keh and "cold metabolism" / thermodynamics In a message dated 4/15/00 2:54:23 AM Central Daylight Time, EHuelshoff@t-online.de writes: > Oh, Oh. Please NO re-run of the Heinlein:Bad Man / Heinlein:Good Man > discussion. Ach, my apologies. I don't think he was a fascist, just an idiot. Feel free to disagree with my flagrantly obnoxious statement off-list. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Eckhard Huelshoff [EHuelshoff@t-online.de] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 9:55 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: T.O.L.G.A.: Transforming Obedient Lifeform Generated for Assassination Tolga Yanasik schrieb: > T.O.L.G.A.: Transforming Obedient Lifeform Generated for Assassination > > Yeah, that's me. Frightening. [snip] > > Well, I thought that someone may find a name for the MJ-12 cyborg in > his/her campaign. And that I hope clears me from any allegations of > being off-topic. Since you consider this on topic: Let's play "Create a Cyborg Name". D.A.V.I.D.E.M.A.N.A.: D-Cell's Advanced Ventriloquist Italian Developed Eryx Maze Anticipating Neotissue Agent D.A.V.E.F.A.R.N.E.L.L.: D-Cell's AdVanced Equipped For Assaults and Rescues Nippon Experienced Libyans Liquidator M.A.R.C.Mc.F.A.D.D.E.N.: M-Cell's Advanced Royal Canadian McIntosh using Frenchies Assaulting Damascus Developed Experienced Negotiator J.E.F.F.E.W.I.N.G.: J-Cell's Experimental French Fries Eating West Indian Neo-Ghoul And before this starts to become absolute nonsense I stop. Anyway, we may still blame it on Tolga ;-) ECKHARD From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of EdDrWho@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:00 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: photos for player aids. In a message dated 4/15/00 6:27:07 AM Central Daylight Time, yanasikt@superonline.com writes: > Can you spot Alzis ? :) The correct answer is, of course, "All of them are Alzis"... From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Nightstar [shepherd@infocom.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:16 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Static electricity At 08:52 PM 4/14/2000 +0100, you wrote: >Ok, bear with me here. Who else has been experiencing an increase in static >electric shocks since the millennium? Here in Richmond, IN, I've noticed (for me anyway) static electricity shocks have gone from non-existent or at least unnoticeable to "to damn often" and "hurts like Hell!".