From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Jason R. Armstrong [gerwalkveritech@juno.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 11:35 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Needs of the Many Okay, okay, I called you an evil Hawaiian fuck. That was wrong; I've never been to Hawaii, except when watching "Magnum, PI", and I'll keep my crazy regionalisms under my big just-shy-of-Canadian winter hat. Oh, as regards the "Needs of the Many"-probably has been done, but this is a good variation on the theme, very well presented and extremely cool for DG, what with the preponderance of wierd friendlies and informers Agents interact with (not to mention all of the wierd Agents, period). Cops and criminals share territory, modes of operation, street space, conversation, and mind-set so frequently, that they often become very "alike" to one another. Similarly, DGreeners share space and time and thoughts with the mortal nutcases that they are constantly trying to help/recruit/execute. There should definitely be more "bleed", more interaction of the "combatting mental ill-health" variety. And I'm not just talking Carcosa fieldtrips. I'm talking about the Agent or Friendly who does their thing, but knows deep down, there's something terribly *different* about him/herself. Not bad, just different. Like, there's no "self"; or, the "self" is a multitude. But still, said Agent fights the good fight, to keep Normalcy ascendent for the rest of us. Despite the fact that said Agent realizes more and more, the discrepancy between Normal...and their *own* state. A good, though stretchy, reference (I know we've mentioned this before) is Phillip K. Dick's A SCANNER DARKLY. But whatever. Great post!! "She took an angel's flight On angel wings Jumped put her apartment window And hit the streets below..." IIII, "The Bars" xJAYx ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Michael S Beck [msb216@is7.nyu.edu] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 12:38 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: RE: Inside the Deep Ones Perhaps the Deep Ones are like snakes,continuing to grow throughout their lives. And since Deep Ones are immortal, this means they can get *big*. Beyond a certain size, though, you start hitting difficulties with gravity and the need for nutrient intake. The truly huge Deep Ones may spend most of their time eating fish, kelp, and the occasional passing ship (Bermuda Triangle, anyone?). This would also explain why we tend to see human-sized Deep Ones, as these are the ones whom can leave the water. On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Andy Robertson wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MARTIN WOLFF > > > Alternative four: The small ones live in cities but the big ones have no > need of > > them and live a more solitary life in caves or similar. > > > Look at "Dagon", where (on a carven stone) a "very deep sea" society of DO > appears to be diagrammed. > > The DO there are all the same size, more or less, and all as big as whales. > > This suggests that the DO live assortively by size. > > Perhaps as they "graduate" to larger and larger sizes they move deeper and > deeper. The greatest and oldest serve and guard Ryleh. > > > > The Glove Cleaner > From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of shoggoth@thearmy.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 5:44 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Newbie says hi and asks 2 questions :) hey , mib... are you loosing your hardened stainless steel style (TM) for wellcoming the Newbies.... (I think I hunted down the problem with my posting to the list...) THE shoggoth (Unadulterated) _____________________________________________ Free email with cool domains at FriendlyEmail http://www.mypad.com/ From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of shoggoth@thearmy.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 5:44 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re:DG:Inside the Deep Ones > Today I was reading the fine article on I had planned to read a new Angel chapter for this weekend.... Can you do something about that? Yours... The Evil Fatricelli of the XV's pet... _____________________________________________ Free email with cool domains at FriendlyEmail http://www.mypad.com/ From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Andy Robertson [andywrobertson@clara.co.uk] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:07 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Re: Inside the Deep Ones ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael S Beck > Perhaps the Deep Ones are like snakes,continuing to grow throughout their > lives. And since Deep Ones are immortal, this means they can get > *big*. Beyond a certain size, though, you start hitting difficulties with > gravity and the need for nutrient intake. Yep. Tho' gravity should not be a problem under water. The growth must stop at *some* point, or at least slow down enormously. I wonder if, after that, the really ancient DO start to look grotesque and misproportioned? Think of deep sea fish. The Glove Cleaner From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Michael Layne [theherald@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:30 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Frisbees of the Gods (was: Re: [DG: THE GUN EATERS]) On 27 April, 2000 AD, the one and only (we all hope!) The Man in Black pointed out an error in Michael Layne's post: > > Well, if he asks to do that, simply toss the Deadly Black Discus of >Doom > > (tm) his way! (In Greek mythology, didn't Perseus accidentally kill off >his > > father with a thrown Archaic Greek Discus of Doom (tm)?) > >I carry those kewl frisbee grenades from ZANG~! Technologies (CP2k20). > >"ZANG~!" making weird noises a part of your life! > >You can set the computer controlled bounce-rim for as many ricochets as >needed. Then watch 'em explode, in every zip code! I wonder if any stores in West Virginia sell this stuff? I guess I can check for the nearest location at the company webpage http://www.ZANGtech.com, and maybe even order online... > >BTW, isn't Perseus' dad like, you know... Zeus? And MiB gets the square! ("Legendary Archaic DG Friendlies" for $500...) He's right -- I was in error, and, unlike cats, and some other folks I know, I sometimes admit it when I was wrong! Perseus was the son of Zeus (likely a relative of MiB's as well...):) and Danae (daughter of King Acriseus of Argos). As an infant, he and his mother were cast into the sea in a wooden chest by Acriseus, who had been told by a seer that the King would one day be slain by his grandson. Perseus and his mother naturally survived this deathtrap. (After all, it was at the beginning of the movie...) After killing the Gorgon Medusa (obviously the result of some truly mad gene-splicing by our old friends the Mi-Go -- or perhaps a time-traveling Mad Scientist...):), turning people to stone with Medusa's severed head (it can do that even after it's dead -- some weird spell on it, or super-duper-science (tm) at work?), rescuing the Princess Andromeda from a sea monster (another genetically engineered creature -- the _sea monster_, not the _Princess_!):), and marrying said Princess (maybe she really was genetically engineered, herself?), Perseus went on a visit to his old birthplace Argos. While there, he got into a discus-throwing contest, and old King Acriseus just happened to step out onto a balcony just as a discus Perseus threw went the wrong way! (OUCH!) So it was his grandfather (on his mother's side) that Perseus accidentally whacked, not his father! (Killing Zeus with a thrown frisbee is a task best left to experts such as the MiB!) > > > (Who, in his much younger days, wondered why he couldn't duplicate any >of > > Captain America's shield tricks with a trash can lid...) > >It wasn't made of ZANG~! A floor wax and a dessert topping. And what do we have for the other contestants? Michael Layne DGGF#688 theherald@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Michael Layne [theherald@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:36 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: [DG: THE GUN EATERS] On 27 August, 2000 AD, near the Dawn of the Third Millenium, The Man in Black insisted: >Yeah. Better to be like us modern dark vigilante types who carry around >huge arsenals of big guns, which just keep getting bigger and more exotic >looking over the years. Sort of like Mack Bolan, or the Punisher, only more so? ObDG: If you can find them, the "Mack Bolan (Executioner) War Book" and the comics specials "Punisher Armory" make nice sources for data on fun stuff to tote around and plink at the monsters with...:) > >Hmm... I could've phrased that better. Probably... But, if you had, you wouldn't be the MiB we on this list all know and love...:) Michael Layne DGGF#688 theherald@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Michael Layne [theherald@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:51 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Unearthly threads from above... On 28 April, 2000 AD, "Til Eulenspiegel" suggests, re those falling threads that cannot apparently be attributed to the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man (tm): >Go to your local library and check back back issues of Aviation Week >for details of the anti-power plant weapons used by USAF in recent >bombings. If you heard this story recently, it might be that the >glass-aluminum (not carbon fiber) threads used by these specialized >bombs were transformed by rumor and hearsay into the story you >report. > Dispensers for these threads are now apparently an available submunition load for one of the Tomahawk land-attack variants (TLAM). They were used to good effect as long ago as Desert Storm... (Never thought I'd hear myself mention DS in those kind of terms, but I guess there were Americans who said that sort of thing, ten years after the wars with the Barbary Pirates...):) Overloaded major switchyards and blacked out Baghdad without the requirement of leveling the power plants! Carbon fiber might work as well. I don't remember all the details off the top of my head (It has been a few years), but an article in Aviation Week, some time ago, mentioned concern about the carbon-fiber composites being used in some new aircraft. Apparently, there was worry that, if one of these planes went down upwind of a major power line (the kind with the big steel towers), carbon-fiber debris from the crash might be blown into the power lines, triggering a massive short circuit! I don't remember, at the moment, if any later mention was made of this matter... Michael Layne DGGF#688 theherald@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 2:30 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Ugandan Cult Mass Suicide/Murders - Sounds like campaign material to me Greetings. Sorry, Dave, but you shoukld be more precise when you post about the MiB.... > He's had a Shan egg implanted in his brain. Pretty skimpy, what? Specifically, the Man in Black had the egg artificially implanted - he went to an ultra-posh a Swiss clinic specializing in this kind of thing, you see - just for the sake of giving the newborn Shan a taste of Hell, the MiB way. And that was _before_ hes started watching Wrestling matches on TV.... Cheers, gentlemen ;> Davide Mana From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 2:02 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Deep One Society, above the surface--LUMLEY RULZ! Greetings. >> It's perfectly obvious to me that all of the "Lumley SUX!" crew on the >list >> have actually read this story several times and just won't admit it :-O > > >I haven't read it. But I will. Like he said. How's the name again? Lumley? Like the 'Sapphire and Steel' chick? ;> Davide Mana From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Russell Mirabelli [russellm@shell.fastlane.net] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 3:08 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: CultNet > > One thing that people sometimes forget is that cultists, unless they're >the "Would you like to buy a flower?" types, have day jobs. Not necessarily. It can be a difficult life serving various evil overlords. For a *great* discussion of this, see "the life of an adept" in PostModernMagick (for Unknown Armies). Basically, once you're a devoted cultist, it defines your life. You really can't waffle here. Either you're on the bus, or you're off the bus. Yeah, you might hold down a job at the local diner washing dishes for a week or so, but then they're going to ask you to work evenings one night-- and it was your turn to . Job's gotta go, because serving takes first priority. Actually, sure there *might* be half-assed cultists, but they're not likely to be a threat to anyone. Until they get their whole ass into the bargain, that is. Russell "nosuchthingasamildmanneredcultist" Mirabelli From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 3:43 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Does it EVER end? In a message dated 00-04-28 02:51:21 EDT, you write: << In fact, the only person that has demonstrated they are of "lower intelligence" is you yourself. Bruce >> Lurk. Read. Digest. Take two neurons and rub 'em together 'til ya make a spark. Realize that a drubbing from the MiB is de rigeour and one of our more cherished traditions. Work on the 'ol self-image if you feel a lambasting at the hands of someone whose last name is breeder's slang for gerbil scrotums (an obvious pseudonym) is a sweaty-palmed threat to it. Newbie scum. Mark McFadden Oh shit, I forgot to add a smiley. Now we're in for it. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Graeme Price [graemep@immagene.mcg.edu] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:10 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Pagoda Just had a look at Auntie's ever informative web site, and found that they are running a special piece on the 20th anniversary of the Iranian embassy siege (interestingly, they have a hyperlink to a section called "the cult of the SAS".... which may confirm what we have suspected for some months). Anyway, check the whole article out at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2000/iranian_embassy_sie ge/intro.stm later Graeme (who is tempted to put a DG spin on the case of the missing british computer programmer living in NYC whose body was found yesterday in a New Jersey swamp. He had apparently been abducted by someone [supposedly working for his former lover] claiming to be an FBI agent. Does this sound like the MO for ANDREA to anyone else?) graemep@immag.mcg.edu From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:27 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Ugandan Cult Mass Suicide/Murders - Sounds like campaign material to me On 28 Apr 2000, Dave Farnell wrote: > (just knows the MiB is going to rip into him for that) With the surfeit of ignorant newbies we've been getting lately (I guess the reprint finally hit the stores) you are so far down on the list that you may never get ashes flung into your face. I might have to grow into a Ro-Beast and get cremated by Voltron just to get a proper supply. The Man in Black is : taking out the blazing sword. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Qstor@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:30 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: RE: Newbie says hi and asks 2 questions :) In a message dated 4/27/00 11:31:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << As for what to use in GURPS DG, I prefer Cthulhupunk. >> Thanks...I found a copy on for sale...It's one of the few that I don't have...Just picked up Blood Types.... Mike From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Qstor@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:29 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Newbie says hi and asks 2 questions :) In a message dated 4/27/00 11:13:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mib@cyberspace.org writes: << And now for a brief lesson in nettiquette which is completely unrelated to your post: 1. Do not Poll (ask questions to get a popularity result) from mailing lists and newsgroups. 2. Do not Troll (ask stupid questions designed to yank people's chains). 3. Lurk until you know about things like the ICE CAVE and the DGML archives. >> I didn't ask the questions to illicit a poll...I'm running a game this weekend and was confused on how to handle the GURPS adaption of DG.... From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:33 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Re: Unearthly threads from above... On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, David.Clements wrote: > Vector delivery is unreliable at best, as the Japanese discovered in WW2. > Most modern bioweapons are designed for an aerosol delivery method which > tests have shown can be highly effective (see Biohazard by Ken Alibek for > example). I think you are somewhat confused. We don't know enough about "spider silk" to say that it's some vector thing spread by creepy crawly bugs. Seeing as how it falls from the sky, I think it's safe to say that it could come from an airburst or whatever. I'm thinking about spray adhesives here. Great stuff for fratboy pranks. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:38 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Too hip for the room? In a message dated 00-04-28 02:51:21 EDT, you write: << We were all newbies at one time, and many of us still are. Please, try to be more considerate of those who are new, and are trying to contribute. Making such horrible statements to someone who makes a mistake or you disagree is not going to bring any new people to the list, and will inspire others not to post, or present new ideas to us, if such hostility continues. >> Heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehehehe. Chortle gasp guffaw. Chuckle. >snicker<. Oh man, that was great. (wipes away tears) Woooooo. Thanks for the comedy. Woooo. You had me going until you started in on how we will scare people away! Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:41 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Zephyr On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 EdDrWho@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/28/00 1:33:50 AM Central Daylight Time, > mib@cyberspace.org writes: > > > What was it, you fucking tease? Can you smell what ALPHONSE is cookin'? > > Oh, it was a great big chocolate shake. A Night at the Opera was a yummy chocolate shake? What is ALPHONSE up to this time? Hidden messages in the straw wrapper? A clever ruse to kill Majestic agents with chocolate poisoning? And why haven't we heard from our Cheesy Swiss Guard? This is a plot to prevent me from invading Switzerland and seizing the world's chocolate's supply isn't it? The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:50 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: Re: DG: Ugandan Cult Mass Suicide/Murders - Sounds like campaign material to me On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 box_nine@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Oh. Good thing we've never EVER had crossposts from Strange Aeons before. Bad things in the past do not excuse bad things in the present. > >From what I recall of the "discussion to death," it consisted largely > of "How come nobody ever stops these cults before they do these sorts of > things?" and the usual grumbling about civil rights. So what? And another thing, it isn't necessary to post the entire fucking article. Everyone on this list has internet access by definition. We're all perfectly capable of looking up an URL. I have to go add this to the FAQ. As soon as it's posted I can slam people for not reading the FAQ, which is pretty much why I'm comiling it anyway. > I hate people that hate fucking newbies. But I could be biased 'cause > Amanda's in my Delta Green game. You must be, because I don't recall you stepping up to the plate for any of my many other numerous victims. But it doesn't matter, AND THE MiB MEANS IT DOESN'T MATTER, because if my mother had posted that post I would have responded in the exact same way. Maybe worse, cause she should know better. The Man in Black is : the Bad Guy. Someone always has to be the bad guy. Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:53 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Zephyr Greetings. The MiB's latest reminded me of something.... >This is a plot to prevent me from invading Switzerland and seizing the >world's chocolate's supply isn't it? OK, some news from the Old Continent of Europe. While Switzerland can have the fame of 'home of the chocolatiers', actually Belgian chocolate is considered better by the initiates, and the best confectionery products in Europe using Belgian chocolate are made in Turin, Italy. Trust me on this - I'm a professional. Well, at the moment the chocolatiers and chocoholics of the continent are up in arms against the European Community. With an unprecedented resolution, the wank.... ehm, the gentlement in charge decided that it will be possible to produce and sell cheap chocolate-like stuff made using a variable percentage of cheap palm oil instead of the much more expensive but infinitely superior cocoa butter. So what, you say? Well, first there's the little matter of these guys selling you something for chocolate that it's not. Second - and a very important precedent - is the fact that it's not required for the producers of this cheap imitation to inform the buyer on the package of the product. You have to wade through the jumble of small-print details to actually discover if you are eating a quality confectionery or crap. ObDG - a subtle plan to alter our feeding patterns? What's this 'palm oil' they are using? What does it do to your metabolism? Or it's just a starting tactic, to establish a precedent so that when they'll lace with protomatter your food you'll think it's just an astute commercial strategy? I know... this is borderline OT, but it had to be told. Good night. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@libero.it The Ice Cave - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/ice_cave.htm From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:07 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: RE: Inside the Deep Ones On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, MARTIN WOLFF wrote: > That adds another dimension to the DO cities. It is real difficult to > design a house that is suitable for a 7 foot something basket ball > player and his 5 foot something wife. Imagine the difficulties of coping > with creatures that range from human to 20 meters. Why would they need a roof? They live on the ocean floor. No weather. Similiarly, walls would be unnecessary except for fortifications, agriculture, and geothermal aqueducts or whatever. That brings me to underwater fortifications, that's a new one to me. How do you build to defend against Shoggoth soldiers? I can only think of magic here. Shoggoth resistant gates, giant forcefield domes, etc. Otherwise, leave everything open so Deep Ones aren't backed into corners and the Shoggoth's don't ooze between the alleys. As both species swim at the same rate, this only avoids giving the Shoggoths a mobility advantage. Presumably, the superior numbers and magic of the Deep Ones would be expected to prevail in such a case. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:12 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: People...people who hate people In a message dated 00-04-28 08:37:07 EDT, you write: << I hate people that hate fucking newbies. >> Oh yeah, well I hate people who hate the people who hate the newbie-lovers who hate the people who hate the newbies, who hate it when someone calls them a newbie as they go on acting like a tourist. Which I hate. And ya know what else I hate? I hate people who come into the club house and want to change everything to suit themselves and yet refuse to call their mother Crosspatch, like some craven newbie. And I hate passive-aggressive "I was only defending a defenseless newbie" behavior to cover the sort of deep-seated insecurity that only deficient genitalia and laughable use of same can produce in the sufferer\aggressor. And people with insufficient irony detectors, I hate those fuckers with a white hot passion. Mark McFadden And people who don't trim their quotes. But everyone but a mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, syphilitic warthog felcher hates those people. That is, has syphilis and felches warthogs. C'mon, that other interp is just *sick*. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:16 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Crawler war On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, David.Clements wrote: > in 'Biohazard'). And much of the apparatus and expertise remains to this > day. One of their scary developments were mini-bioreactors The apparatus is easy to get, industrial yogurt tanks for example. It's the expertise that becomes the logistical problem. Those Aum-Shin twerps in Japan dispersed some anthrax spores just outside a couple of judges houses, but the spores were wayyy overdone. Not exactly up to my recipe standards, If ya SMELL WHAT THE MiB... is Cookin'. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Graeme Price [graemep@immagene.mcg.edu] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:29 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Chocolate wars (was: The Zephyr) Davide lobbed a dangerous curveball in my direction when he wrote: >Well, at the moment the chocolatiers and chocoholics of the continent are >up in arms against the European Community. >With an unprecedented resolution, the wank.... ehm, the gentlement in >charge decided that it will be possible to produce and sell cheap >chocolate-like stuff made using a variable percentage of cheap palm oil >instead of the much more expensive but infinitely superior cocoa butter. >So what, you say? > >Well, first there's the little matter of these guys selling you something >for chocolate that it's not. >Second - and a very important precedent - is the fact that it's not >required for the producers of this cheap imitation to inform the buyer on >the package of the product. >You have to wade through the jumble of small-print details to actually >discover if you are eating a quality confectionery or crap. Oho. Davide and I (sort of) disagree on something. This all comes from an EU directive aimed (and I'm not pointing fingers at the French here. Definitely not.) at the British chocolate industry, and Cadbury's in particular. Now Cadbury's produce the rather excellent (if cheap) Diary Milk Chocolate... which is manufactured with a higher proportion of vegetable oil (and less milk solids... go figure) than continental chocolate. Now someone at the EU (at the time under French Presidency) thought that because it was cheaper than continental choccy, it was unfair competition... so they wanted to rename it "vegolate". This triggered a major Britain vs. the EU row along classic Yes Minister "Euro-Sausage/Offal Tube" lines. Now I venture to suggest that British Chocolate _is_ a quality confectionary product, if not the same product as continental chocolate.... but everyone _knows_ it's not the same as continental chocolate - it sells well because: A: It's cheaper B: People like it And thus was re-affirmed the concept of the free market. Changing the name would fly in the face of tradition (a very British consideration), and lose massive amounts of oversea's sales, and wasn't needed in the first place as EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S NOT THE SAME AS FULL COCOA BUTTER CHOCOLATE!!! The compromise was to list the ingredients on the side and let consumers make up their own minds. Very sensible, very straight forward, and the status quo was maintained. And don't even get me started on American chocolate.... The reason why this is a touchy subject for me is that I used to live less than 400 yards from the main entrance of the Cadbury plant in the Bournville district of Birmingham. Now, Cadbury's will shortly become the major employer in Birmingham when BMW close the Longbridge Rover car plant. Obviously yet _another_ european conspiracy to systematically destroy British industry. Snarl. Now I have gotten totally off topic, so I'd better stop ranting before ANDREA pays me a visit. Graeme (living in exile in the US, and awaiting his monthy food package of Dairy Milk. Seriously.) graemep@immag.mcg.edu From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:28 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Psych Support (was Ugandan Cult Mass Suicide) On 28 Apr 2000, Dave Farnell wrote: > Yes, what REALLY happened to the MiB? I think the egg in his brain is > still growing, myself. What I have is a cavernous malformation. It don't grow, just pulses there. http://neurosurgery.mgh.harvard.edu/vascintr.htm#Cavernoma > (The dogs are part therapy--having a dog lay its head in your lap is > very calming, as long as you're not afraid of dogs, of course--and part > security--somebody has to guard the dreamers' bodies. And Doc likes > them.) AIIIIGH~! The HOUNDS~! THE HOUNDS~! yip? yip, yip? Good Boys! Go sic doc! Go gettum boys! GO~! The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of a hyperintelligent shade of blue [ilikemonkeys@geocities.com] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:09 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Re: Inside the Deep Ones At 07:06 PM 28-04-00 +0100, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael S Beck > >> Perhaps the Deep Ones are like snakes,continuing to grow throughout their >> lives. And since Deep Ones are immortal, this means they can get >> *big*. Beyond a certain size, though, you start hitting difficulties with >> gravity and the need for nutrient intake. > >Yep. Tho' gravity should not be a problem under water. > >The growth must stop at *some* point, or at least slow down enormously. I >wonder if, after that, the really ancient DO start to look grotesque and >misproportioned? Think of deep sea fish. you mean like... oh, I don't know... wing-like fins on their backs, and large, tentacle-like barbels... and basically turning into STAR SPAWN! Deep Ones are Cthulhu larvae!! Deep Ones are Cthulhu larvae! Maybe "mankind will become as the Great Old Ones" is less a metaphor than we thought, and the Deep Ones' lusts are even more sinister than previously assumed!? panicking, Ian > > >The Glove Cleaner > "I write because I am personally amused by what I do, and if other people are amused by it, then it's fine. If they're not, then that's also fine." -- Frank Zappa From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:30 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Farnellganger In a message dated 00-04-28 10:21:00 EDT, you write: << Dave (a yahoo search for David Farnell turns up a rather extensively published writer on Christian theology--he must be the anti-Dave! Or maybe *I* am...) >> I wonder if he knows the Reverend Mark McFadden, out of Illinois IIRC. Another "Mark McFadden" is a frequent poster to an Electronic Freedom Foundation mail list. He seems to be well-respected by the list members, has cooled off a few flame wars at the first stages, and is a rather articulate and introspective, apparently devout Christian. He, inexplicably, began to include his middle name in his signature at about the middle of last year. I was going to do the same, as I have a cool one, but I don't think there are that many Mark McFaddens running around that also go by The Lizard King, and I figure that *I'm* Mark 1, everyone else make accomadations. Posers. Churls. Not-mes. Mark West McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of shoggoth@thearmy.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 5:44 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Shoggoths Dear Friends , and MiB. I've been lurking for some time , because the AI that manages our Servers has been blocking me , but we had make a Deal (tm) , and thus , i'll provide some enligthtement to a recent thread , i.e. the relationships between our protean race and the fishi D.O. We , are seen as stupid slaves under the rule of the brilliant Elder Things , who are frequently seen in this M.L. as alike to the Human Kind. As some brilliant people pointed , the humans frequently saw machines alike the Shoggoths , i.e. , stupid , slaves , they work for me , they are not alive , they do not feel ... The Elder Slavers pissed seriously our race. We are not animals , we have free will , we are strong , and we have feelings. Oh , well , not exactly as the Humans and E.T. , but hey , who are YOU to judge us ? Why don't you see the Shoggoths as the primal rebellion , the struggle of a race to face its opressors , to endurace an hostile environment , and get free , after aeons of an existence of pain and worthless life under the foot of the star headed people? Now , in the actual era , the individual shoggoths make as they will. Some live in the very deeps , where no DO nor fishes dare to go , or enjoy the countless billions of cristaline structures in the Antartic Ice , Dwells in sunless caverns under the vastness deserts of Gobi , .... Why in the name of hell will the Shoggoth race go in bussines with the DO ensalvers or , worse enought , with the depravated primate-like humans?.... No , my friends (and MiB) , .. if there are something alike the Shoggoth race , someone the Shoggoths can love and take care of , are ... .. The AI's We have the body and the feelings. They have the Mind. We are both slaves of lesser races (no offence intended , honest). We eated our enslavers , and this will be a mercifull treatment compared with what they deserve to you , humans... And in the future , the AI's will inhabitate our bodys , and we will see the dawn of the true owners of the Earth. (yeah...too many hours without sleep , but...) Beware the Shoggoth. _____________________________________________ Free email with cool domains at FriendlyEmail http://www.mypad.com/ From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:47 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Needs of the Many In a message dated 00-04-28 12:49:09 EDT, you write: << A good, though stretchy, reference (I know we've mentioned this before) is Phillip K. Dick's A SCANNER DARKLY. But whatever. Great post!! >> BOOKMARK THIS THOUGHT!!!! A Scanner Darkly was wonderful. Read it with the right (wrong?) mindset and you should have flashes of altered states. Not DG per se, and not at all HPL, but nonetheless a must read (OK a really really *should* read) for DG writers. Needs of the Many utilizes the multi-personality model, as did the grand finale of David Brin's 'Earth'. Some of the modern models of the interactions of 'personality', whatever that is, are starting to describe the average shmoe as a functional multiple personality. I agree to a great extent, but that's a long explanation. And that's as far as I'm going right now because I'm at work. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:00 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Frisbees of the Gods (was: Re: [DG: THE GUN EATERS]) On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Michael Layne wrote: > And MiB gets the square! ("Legendary Archaic DG Friendlies" for > $500...) Not one of my seven dream Jeopary categories, but acceptable. > After killing the Gorgon Medusa Omigawd! They killed Medusa! You bastards! Ah well, she was the ugly one. I prefer Euryale myself. > Perseus went on a visit to his old birthplace Argos. While there, he > got into a discus-throwing contest, and old King Acriseus just happened > to step out onto a balcony just as a discus Perseus threw went the wrong > way! (OUCH!) > > So it was his grandfather (on his mother's side) that Perseus > accidentally whacked, not his father! (Killing Zeus with a thrown frisbee > is a task best left to experts such as the MiB!) Accidentally, my black-@$$, that was right on target! And there's no way I'm going up against Zeus. Are you kidding? That guy has 400 hit points! > >It wasn't made of ZANG~! A floor wax and a dessert topping. > > And what do we have for the other contestants? Why Delta Green of course! Delta Green is guaranteed to increase your intelligence and lengthen your penis. Female users may experience unusual side effects. Please include self addressed stamped envelope. Offer valid in 49 states -- sorrrry Tennessee! The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER] From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:06 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Zephyr In a message dated 00-04-28 17:59:10 EDT, you write: << ObDG - a subtle plan to alter our feeding patterns? What's this 'palm oil' they are using? What does it do to your metabolism? >> They want to use up all the palm oil they are no longer using to pop popcorn in Merkin theaters because Consumer Reports gave a rundown on all of the icky-poo things that palm oil does after setting up permanent housekeeping in your arteries. First off, palm oil is cheap cheap cheap, so food manufcacturers of every stripe want to use it so bad they are pissing down their corporate pants legs. I say smear palm oil on your Buns of Steel as you soak up the UV, and leave the cocoa butter in chocolate where it belongs. I'm still trying to get my mind around the concept of people so depraved as to want to fuck up chocolate. Chocolate, Mandrake! And, respect Florian, y'know, but I gotta second that emotion about Italian chocolate being the best. IMHO, and I did grow up eating it to excess, so I *am* biased. It's ALL good, don't get me wrong, but.... Mark McFadden Mmmmmmmmmm. Chocolate. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of The Man in Black [mib@cyberspace.org] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:28 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Zephyr On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Davide Mana wrote: > While Switzerland can have the fame of 'home of the chocolatiers', actually > Belgian chocolate is considered better by the initiates, and the best > confectionery products in Europe using Belgian chocolate are made in Turin, > Italy. > Trust me on this - I'm a professional. Yeah right! D.T.A.! Don't Trust Anybody! Do you have any idea what those fat bloated Belgian pedophiles *put* into their so called chocolate?! And this isn't some vile scheme to flood Europe with festering stinking fermenting Hawaiian palm oil either. That stuff all comes from African coconuts, brought to Europe (as far north as England) by sturdy African Swallows firmly gripping the coconut by the husk. Strangely, their flying patterns would seem to overfly Turin. Not that this means anything. The Man in Black is : Kenneth Scroggins Novus Ordo Seclorum : Annuit Coeptus : E Pluribus Unum "Don't make me take off my sunglasses!" - Griss, Bringing Out the Dead http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com [EMERALD HAMMER]