From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:33 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Bouncing mail messages ->Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown In a message dated 00-05-03 10:02:20 EDT, you write: << Apparently a Florian Lang in Munich has subscribed to the DGML. This is great - its great to have new members... however his email server bounces everything from a yahoo.com email address. So for every DG message I send to the list, I get a returned mail - user unknown. >> His server also bounces anything from @aol.com. Every few days I get a cluster of Mailer-Daemon messages, they are all of my posts returned to me by Florian Lang's server. What is probably happening is something like this: Someone with an aol.com address sent a message to someone else on Florian Lang's server\service provider that had a virus, probably a Melissa-type macro virus. Also, someone with a yahoo.com (and probably someone with a hotmail.com) did the same thing. The administrators of the system which probably does not have any anti-virus checking apps running, took the easy (read panicky\not-thought-out\reflexive) route and set their service to bounce anything from yahoo.com or aol.com. These fine examples of hierarchical structure have probably forgotten by now that they set that filtering, and they set it up so clumsily that Florian Lang is not getting Admin messages that a message sent to him from [fill in the blank] was bounced. I'm adding a lot of speculation because I've seen this situation more than a few times. My investigation usually starts with the question "What do you mean 'Turkey' refuses to accept your emails? The whole country, a company in it, or some guy who lives there?" Mark McFadden Bottom line, there isn't much the Pagans can do about this other than dropping Florian Lang so long as he uses that address\ISP. Yes, they could write a custom routine to search for those mesaages and yada yada, but jeez, I'd rather see them producing more DG goodness. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Andy Robertson [andywrobertson@clara.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:55 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: RE: Inside the Deep Ones ----- Original Message ----- From: William Timmins > >To switch to "warm blood" they would have to generate about 600 > >Kilocalories > Would it be possible that they can store oxygen in some long term sense? If > they could slowly bind oxygen into another medium, they could then, perhaps, > hyperoxygenate as they rise to the air, giving them a kickstart, > essentially. Substances like myoglobin are indeed used to store oxygen in the tissues. We use them, so I would be astonished if the DO did *not* use them, both for assistance in warmup from phase 1 to phase 2, and for short sprints of effort while in phase 1. > Of course, all of this misses the possible supernatural aspects. Given the > aversion for Elder's Signs, for example, my pet setup would define them as > 'not fully terrene'. As you obviously realise, the problem is that this trumps everything . . . . so we can say nothing. And the DO just seem too limited and, well, ordinary. I feel that if the DO has a significant "non-terrene" element in their physiology they would exploit it to the hilt, and not just use it to heat themselves up a little. ---- **** ---- But as you correctly imply, this is all theory. Theories should be testable. So, to nail it down: What the theory predicts is that if a DO surfaces from a _long_deep_dive_ (not from a short period of air-breathing while swimming on the surface, but from a long deep dive which required gill breathing) it will 1) have a low core body temperature 2) take a considerable time to warm up, (estimate 1/2 hour plus) 3) not be able to move _rapidly_ on land until it does warm up. We've already had some comments on this with respect to historical data: it will be interesting to see if we can get other evidence from the field to confirm or disprove it. The Glove Cleaner From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Nocstar [shepherd@infocom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:57 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Bouncing mail messages ->Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown No messages bouncing this way. At 02:11 PM 5/3/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >Anyone know of a way to fix this? > >Curious. Florian's account isn't bouncing any email back to the list >admin From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Michael Layne [theherald@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:54 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Pluto On 3 May, 2000 AD, "Dave Farnell" says: >On Tue, 2 May 2000 21:23:27 -0400 Mused wrote: > >Yosemite Sam makes a good cult leader > >The idea of having a cult leader say "TAAAAARRRRNATION!" is indeed too good >to pass up. And considering his interesting facial-hair situation, he may >just be a leftover "fuzzy prehuman." And Sam obviously has use of some sort of ultra-tech... Have you noticed that, not only can his six-shooters generate enough recoil to lift him into the air (sort of like Project ORION), but that they never seem to need reloading? And one cartoon segment ("Yosimite Sam of Outer Spaaace!") even shows him with his own flying saucer... Michael Layne DGGF#688 theherald@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:56 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Discordians Greetings. This is getting scary AGAIN. The LizKing writes.... > I don't generally use Discordians per se in gaming, they do offer a lot of >useful proclivities. > I've been putting out vague hints about a "Kilroy" out there. I've sometimes >made vague references to the West Coast DG. Well, my brother is designing a crossover ConX/WoD PBEM game featuring a 'Kilroy' that's strikingly similar to McFadden's Kilroy. > No one gives orders to Kilroy if they want to continue the dialogue. He'll >work with you, but not for you. Yeah, like he said.... The way I see it, of the two, one, either we are few and we know each other well, or there's something going around and people can tap into it occasionally. Think about it. Goodnight. Davide Mana Torino, Italy doctor.dee@libero.it The Ice Cave - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/ice_cave.htm From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Michael Layne [theherald@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 6:17 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: DG FAQ (was New Mi5 facility) On 1 May 2000 AD, Stephen Joseph Ellis brings up an interesting point: > Here is another question for the FAQ. "I am an internal security >agent of MI5, NSA or the phone company. Email filtering has registered >this FAQ as containing several relevant keywords. The contents of this >Mailing list appear to be subversive and indicate an unparalleled degree >of information sharing between individuals of several nationalities who >keep referring to 'the conspiracy'. Should I be concerned and alert my >superiors?" I suggest that, before you alert said superiors, it would be wise to review all the data (not just the messages the automatic system kicked out to alert you), so that your report will be more complete... (A good starting point for additional data would be http://www.delta-green.com) Also, consider some of the precedents... Agreed, in the information age, it is quite possible for a far-reaching conspiracy to form, in which the perpetrators never meet except on-line, and in which the conspiracy can rapidly vanish once its goals are met... What at first glance, however, might seem an apparent "conspiracy" or "paramilitary organization" can frequently prove, on further examination, to pose minimal threat... One example would be the affair involving Steve Jackson Games, where some overzealous government personnel raided a game company, claiming that SJG's game book, which mentioned imaginary penetrations of intrusion countermeasures of an imaginary computer system, some time in the first half of the next century, posed a clear and present danger to national security. This matter proved somewhat embarrassing for said government personnel, when SJG was proven not to pose such a threat -- although the raid delayed publication of "GURPS Cyberpunk", the publicity concerning the raid both increased sales of the product, and was unlikely to have been career-enhancing for the agents involved. Another example would be the investigation allegedly conducted some years ago concerning the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA), a medieval re-enactment organization founded about 35 years ago in Berkeley, CA. Despite rumors that the SCA was a "paramilitary militia", indulging in regular battle practice (with rattan swords), suggestions that it was a "motorcycle gang" (some of its members were photographed wearing helmets, though not the motorcycle type), and so on, and so forth, the investigation (your tax dollars at work) eventually deemed the Society "just a harmless group of monarchists". If the members of this mailing list are subversives, it is probably news to most of members of the list! Actually (cue the ID4 theme music here), we're a group of patriotic Earthmen (and Earthwomen), involved in an ongoing effort reaching through cyberspace, sharing hard-won intel data concerning aquatic and extraterrestrial Threat forces which pose a potential risk to the safety of the United States and its allies! (Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...) Michael Layne DGGF#688 theherald@hotmail.com Owner of a copy of "GURPS Cyberpunk" SCA member for the last 16 years and proud of it! "MOSTLY Harmless!" -- Viscountess Regina Romsey, upon hearing of the government's conclusion concerning the SCA. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:39 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Subversive? Moi? In a message dated 00-05-03 19:21:39 EDT, you write: << If the members of this mailing list are subversives, it is probably news to most of members of the list! >> I am a guerrilla ontologist, extropian, performance artist and gadfly. Subversion? Pppfffftttttttt. That presumes a goal. Which presumes 'winning' or 'losing' , which means the game is over. And what's the fun in that? I prefer the Discordian\Erisian system of imparting wisdom through making everything you 'know' suspect, and not offering an answer. An answer marks the spot where curiosity gave out. Giving *you* an answer makes *me* an authority, and I don't play that. Non servium, Sparky. You have to make the journey yer ownself at your own pace. No Cliff's Notes. Mark McFadden Building a better future by tricking folks into trying to be better people. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:46 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Yosemite Sam In a message dated 00-05-03 06:46:47 EDT, you write: << The idea of having a cult leader say "TAAAAARRRRNATION!" is indeed too good to pass up. And considering his interesting facial-hair situation, he may just be a leftover "fuzzy prehuman." >> In the premiere episode of Tiny Toons, the ubiquitous black ball bomb blew all of Sam's hair off and we got to see what he looks like without the beard and moustache. He looked like a blue-eyed clam. With a nose. The horror! The horror! Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Popeyesays@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 8:06 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Yosemite Sam In a message dated 5/3/00 7:48:54 PM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: << He looked like a blue-eyed clam. With a nose. >> So you're saying a Deep One - Spawn of Cthulhu? Thrall of Cthulhu? Dagon worshiper? or Bloated Woman? From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:42 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: WACO--He Knew Too Much (long) In a message dated 00-05-03 08:35:05 EDT, you write: << *6 The phrase "badly decomposed body" might be a euphemism for a number of different things: a partially eaten body, a ritually dismembered corpse, or ye liveliest awfulness. Perhaps Jean Qualls paid Ghigliotti a visit to learn who or what killed him. A ritually dismembered corpse could lead to an investigation for the murderer(s), and fits nicely with *1 above. Ye liveliest awfulness requires a caster to botch the resurrection spell. This suggests The Fate or other high-powered spell casters. Perhaps the devout Branch Davidians didn't all burn. >> In addition to the suspicious "double-tap" bullet holes in the back of a few Davidian skulls, I remember an autopsy illustration of a male Davidians remains that showed a huge crescent-shaped chunk that was missing from his torso. To me, it looked like a bite out of a sandwich, but over 2 feet across. In any case, here's some good sites Carole Moore's site http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/davidian-massacre.html A libertarian, critical of the gov's performance. So, of course, she has some of the most interesting details. The Rules of Engagement http://www.waco93.com/ If you want to see the flashes the article and message were talking about, this is the documentary. Cults, Anti-Cultists and the Cult of Intelligence http://www.blythe.org/NameBase/newsline.05 Good stuff. Shows how your cell can get some people killed with another agency's agents. Parascope http://www.parascope.com Links to all this stuff and more. Includes the Davidian side of the story. Is there some sort of coincidence that the Emmy award-winning documentary about the incident that led to the formation of modern DG and a recent DG novel have the same title? Mark McFadden Beating all this OT Waco stuff into the ground Man, I wish you people would just shut up about all this boring OT Waco stuff. It isn't worth talking about. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:44 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Yosemite Sam In a message dated 00-05-03 21:08:54 EDT, you write: << So you're saying a Deep One - Spawn of Cthulhu? Thrall of Cthulhu? Dagon worshiper? or Bloated Woman? >> Worse. It looked like a flesh-tone blue-eyed clam. With a bulbous nose. I think we might be on to a new servitor race. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Popeyesays@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:19 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Yosemite Sam In a message dated 5/3/00 9:48:31 PM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: << Worse. It looked like a flesh-tone blue-eyed clam. With a bulbous nose. I think we might be on to a new servitor race. >> "Toon" servitor race associated with the "Tex Avery" avatar of Nyarlathotep, very often the "Mel Blanc" avatar acts as an interlocutor during summoning spells. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Dave Farnell [superdave@disinfo.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:56 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Bouncing mail messages SOmething that might help Alphonse solve this problem would be to tell him the email address which is bouncing the messages. I have no less than 3 email addresses for Florian (a long-time listmember, BTW, though not heard from for a while). And no, I'm not getting any bounced-back messages, though I got one from someone else a couple weeks back. Dave (I only posted this to the list as so many members have reported the problem, so I wanted to get it to them all at once. But Womack is right--List Admin problems should be discussed directly with the List Admin.) From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:15 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Yosemite Sam In a message dated 5/3/00 8:21:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Popeyesays@aol.com writes: << "Toon" servitor race associated with the "Tex Avery" avatar of Nyarlathotep, very often the "Mel Blanc" avatar acts as an interlocutor during summoning spells. >> Now you've done it. You went and invoked Tex Avery. Think of "Red Hot Riding Hood', featured in "Il Mostro'. Or 'The Cat That Hated People', one of my all time favorites. Think of the wolf careening across the country, hopping trains and flying planes and everywhere he turns, there's Droopy.... "Hello, Joe." Oh yes. Surreal and chaotic and too damn frantic for Yellow Rot to take root. ObDG: There's a Marx Brothers feel to Tex Avery cartoons. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Daniel Harms [dmharms@acsu.buffalo.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:15 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Weirdness Three pygmy goats. Their heads cut off. Surrounded by feathers. And their stomachs sliced open and filled with - baked beans? Not even the mi-go are THAT weird. http://www.phillynews.com/inquirer/2000/May/02/city/EGOAT02.htm And I can tell that some people here are using this for their daily news source: http://www.forteantimes.com/ Yrs., Daniel Harms dmharms@acsu.buffalo.edu The Internet: Learn what you know. Share what you don't. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:38 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Bouncing mail messages - curse of the modern age In a message dated 5/3/00 8:58:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, superdave@disinfo.net writes: << (I only posted this to the list as so many members have reported the problem, so I wanted to get it to them all at once. But Womack is right--List Admin problems should be discussed directly with the List Admin.) >> I posted off-list the first time it happened to me. Then I dropped it because.... well, it didn't bother me all that much. I figured I'd let everyone get comfortable with their new roles. In any case, the address in question is: florian_lang@gmx.de Who is not at fault for the actions of 'vm.fh-muenchen.de' the mail server and admins thereof. If my theory of the chain of events is correct. Poor Florian is probably getting all the message traffic that doesn't come from @aol.com or @yahoo.com or @hotmail.com and is confused as hell. Mark McFadden Email weenie trying to keep that wall between work and play intact. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Popeyesays@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:51 PM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Yosemite Sam In a message dated 5/3/00 11:17:19 PM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: << ObDG: There's a Marx Brothers feel to Tex Avery cartoons. >> A Night at the Opera - with Tex Avery. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of EdDrWho@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 12:05 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: That Talkshow Madness In a message dated 5/2/00 12:36:11 PM Central Daylight Time, EHuelshoff@t-online.de writes: > I remember that in the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"-novels Douglas > Adams > wrote about some machine or technology to make people ignorant to bad things. > Sunglasses. They go dark whenever something threatening appears. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 12:31 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Tex Avery Here is the mini-bio for Tex Avery from the Internet Movie Database (www.imdb.com) Frederick Bean Avery Tex Avery was a descendant of Judge Roy Bean and Daniel Boone, but all his grandma ever told him about it was "Don't ever mention you are kin to Roy Bean. He's a no good skunk!!" After graduating from North Dallas High School in 1927, Avery moved to Southern California in 1929 and got a job in the harbor. After showing samples of his artwork he got a job at Walter Lantz Studios in 1929 as animator. His contributions during the years at Walter Lantz Studios were minor. From 1936 to 1941 he worked as supervisor - another word for cartoon director - of some 60 titles in the Merrie Melodies and Looney Tunes series at Warner. From 1942 to 1954 Avery worked as director of cartoons at MGM. He was responsible for practically every MGM Cartoon that did not feature Tom and Jerry. In 1955 he did four cartoons, again for Walter Lantz Studios, before leaving the field for advertising, where, alas, his unique sense of humor went largely unappreciated. Among the many cartoon characters Avery created are Daffy Duck, Droopy, Screwy Squirrel and Chilly Willy. Tex Avery is also credited with creating the personality of Bugs Bunny. He was the one who coined the phrase "What's up, Doc?" Me agin. Worked in the harbor, did he? Walter Lantz was the creator of Woody Woodpecker, who showed up on this list awhile back. Shall I mention the Rabbit\UFO connection? The Fortean sightings of significant rabbits? Night of the Lepus? The attack of the killer bunny on President Carter? Naaaah. I hit Happy Hour the other day at Three-fingered Mickey's. It's on Police Street, the worst street in town it's so bad. Bugs was propping up the bar as usual and holding forth in that Benzedrine way of his. He's a pretty good sort for a cultural icon and drag queen, but big sloppy kisses while being held by the ears are the price you pay for the inside dope. He asked his usual question and I replied "Six inches of Grumpy" which tickled him unduly. Probably because Grumpy was a Republican and retired in Anaheim. Over a vodka and Hansen's Carrot Juice (a Sharp-eyed Mary) he got nostalgic and talked about his metamorphosis from runny-nosed squirrel to rascally rabbit. Fascinating stuff. But then Velma dropped in and that damned restraining order came into the mix, so I went home wiping rabbit spittle off of my face. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Popeyesays@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 12:51 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Tex Avery In a message dated 5/4/00 12:33:18 AM Central Daylight Time, LizardRoi@aol.com writes: << I hit Happy Hour the other day at Three-fingered Mickey's. It's on Police Street, the worst street in town it's so bad. Bugs was propping up the bar as usual and holding forth in that Benzedrine way of his. He's a pretty good sort for a cultural icon and drag queen, but big sloppy kisses while being held by the ears are the price you pay for the inside dope. He asked his usual question and I replied "Six inches of Grumpy" which tickled him unduly. Probably because Grumpy was a Republican and retired in Anaheim. Over a vodka and Hansen's Carrot Juice (a Sharp-eyed Mary) he got nostalgic and talked about his metamorphosis from runny-nosed squirrel to rascally rabbit. Fascinating stuff. But then Velma dropped in and that damned restraining order came into the mix, so I went home wiping rabbit spittle off of my face. >> I saw him at an all-night all-you-can eat salad bar in Aloubuquerque. The restaurant is across the street from his usual hang-out a two-bit dive on the left side of the street. Not a lot of us know that is tfor his famous line "I KNEW I should have made a left toin at Albuquerque!" He put away a weeks supply of baby carrots in about twenty minutes while he moaned about Daffy not returning his calls, and wanting to buy a shotgun to shoot "that mudderFudder and see how he likes it!" It was not one of his better days; but at least Velma didn't show up - the bitch. They invented the term "screw like a bunny" to describe her - anytime, anywhere - she ruined more than one rabbit in her time. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:53 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Conspiracy Slips Up In a message dated 5/3/00 1:45:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alphonse@delta-green.com writes: << On CNN Headline News this afternoon, Secretary of State Madelaine Albright is chastising her department over security issues. In the clip on CNN, she is wearing a distinctive lapel pin: that of a penny-farthing bicycle, emblem of the Village. Evidently she is the new Number Two. >> That tears it. We're going to talk about The Prisoner and the Village right now. If you never saw the show, check out the links at www.scifi.com or whatever the Sci Fi Channel's home page is. If you liked the King in Yellow sections of Countdown, I think you will like it. MiB? Sorry to horn in on the stuff you were nice enough to go public with, but it's too good to leave lying there. So here's an initial thought. Rather than a high-tech RW espionage org, the Village and it's universe are a sort of Carcosa for spies. I would keep the tech. This is in defiance of the usual Dreamlands logic, but I think the Dreamlands are big enough to hold it. You enter the Village after you are caught. You enter through Outlook or a South American cell or a hospital ward or rooms beneath the Kremlin. The Village wants information. They will not tell you what information they want. You must volunteer it, wholeheartedly. You enter the Village when you don't know who your friends are. You enter from motel rooms you paid for with cash from your spooker. You enter from a 24 hour gym where you dyed your hair in the back showers. You enter from a rest stop on the interstate where you stopped after peeling away from that meet with your cell because you felt eyes on the back of your neck. The Village wants to help you, but they don't know if they can trust you. If you aren't the traitor mole, then who is? The Village is not the Enemy, the Village is your own people. They had to quarantine you because of the mole. Or moles. And since your side is compromised, then by definition so is the Village. You will have to be careful. You enter the Village through Chapel Perilous or from Chinatown. You enter from a 3 day binge in a motel after an op when some MTV video reminded you of how dead a dead child's eyes can look. You enter from a discipline session with a young prostitute that you have given a manageable heroin habit to make her easier to manage since she is the target's favorite, which doesn't make you a pimp. You enter from a meeting with a superior who didn't seem quite human, but you kept up the pretense because it could be just nerves. The Village has dealt with these things before. The Village can help, but they need to know where it hurts. Try to remember. Of course, we can't keep calling it the Village, because that will soon be a major motion picture and if you think Scientology could litigate... I propose that we proceed to call it The Resort and let the parallels and loving homages abound. Auf wiedersehen. Whoops, sorry. Arrivederci. Whatever. Be seeing you. Mark McFadden Where to from here? That would be telling. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Eckhard Huelshoff [EHuelshoff@t-online.de] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:04 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Suspect Held in Semen Squirt-Gun Attacks Good Morning. From: APBNEWS.COM _______________ Suspect Held in Semen Squirt-Gun Attacks Florida Man Charged With Assaulting Girls OCOEE, Fla. (APBnews.com) --­ A suspect has been arrested in a series of bizarre attacks in which young girls were sprayed with bodily fluids from a squirt gun. Joseph Edward Nichols, 29, of Pine Hills was arrested Sunday night by a team of investigators from the Ocoee Police Department, the Orlando Police Department and the Orange County Sheriff's Office, police said. "It looks like he expected to be arrested," said Ocoee Detective Bernard Williams. "We're very glad to have tracked him down and have him in custody." Nichols was charged with lewd or lascivious acts with a child for a series of attacks over the past year in which he would allegedly steal a water gun from a discount department store, load it with his semen and then douse young girls with it, police said. FBI assisted in probe Police had been feverishly searching for the suspect over the past few weeks because the attacks had been escalating in frequency, Williams said. The FBI Behavioral Science Unit was brought in to assist in the investigation, he said. Police said they were trying to find the suspect quickly, because the FBI believed the attacks would increase in number and possibly escalate violently. In the last attack a little over a week ago, the suspect brazenly approached a young girl at an Orlando-area K-Mart. He asked her to open her mouth, and when she refused, he sprayed her in the face with the squirt gun then took her picture, according to police reports. The unknown suspect was captured on video surveillance camera. Police put that video on local television stations, hoping for a break. That led to anonymous calls on the police "CrimeLine" hot line from people who told investigators that they recognized Nichols from the video, police said. Police obtained Nichols' drivers license photograph, which was shown to witnesses and victims as part of an array of pictures. The witnesses identified Nichols from the photographs, Williams said. Armed with that information, investigators went to Orange County Circuit Judge Dorothy Russell, who found probable cause and issued a search warrant and a bench warrant for his arrest, Williams said. Preliminary DNA evidence released last week showed that the bodily fluids were from the same person, Williams said. Police searched Nichols' home after his arrest Sunday night. They did not find any evidence of value there, Williams said. Nichols is being held in the Orange County Jail at 33rd Street in lieu of $200,000 bond, according to jail records. He does not have a prior criminal history, Williams said. The Orange County Sheriff's Office and the Orlando Police Department are expecting to charge Nichols with more counts when they finish preparing their cases against him, officials at the departments said. He is the suspect in 11 attacks since last year on young girls who are alone in discount department stores, according to police reports. If convicted of the crimes charged, Nichols faces up to 15 years in state prison, according to Florida law. _______________ O tempora, O mores! A weird young man shooting his sperm from a stolen water gun: This story definitely has DG-Potential. What if he had used the Milk of Shub-Niggurath instead? BTW: What really does interest me is the question wether the fellow used an ordinary water gun or one of those modern long-distance pump-action water guns? And: I mean, doing stuff like this is defintely not really gentleman-like, but 15 years in state prison!?!?!? ECKHARD From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:17 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Tex Avery In a message dated 5/3/00 10:53:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Popeyesays@aol.com writes: << I saw him at an all-night all-you-can eat salad bar in Aloubuquerque. The restaurant is across the street from his usual hang-out a two-bit dive on the left side of the street. Not a lot of us know that is tfor his famous line "I KNEW I should have made a left toin at Albuquerque!">> I saw him having clams at Pismo Beach with Tweety, who had apparently compelled some old lady to carry his cage around while accompanied by her slobbering bipedal feline familiar. That yellow hydrocephalic mutation gives me the creeps. << but at least Velma didn't show up - the bitch.>> Watch it buddy, you're talking about the toon I love. And that restraining order is just her way of using the law to keep herself away from me. Mark McFadden Later, I saw him having a Pina Colada at Trader Vic's. The hare was perfect. From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of LizardRoi@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:01 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Suspect Held in Semen Squirt-Gun Attacks In a message dated 5/4/00 12:07:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, EHuelshoff@t-online.de writes: << A weird young man shooting his sperm from a stolen water gun: This story definitely has DG-Potential. What if he had used the Milk of Shub-Niggurath instead? BTW: What really does interest me is the question wether the fellow used an ordinary water gun or one of those modern long-distance pump-action water guns? And: I mean, doing stuff like this is defintely not really gentleman-like, but 15 years in state prison!?!?!? ECKHARD >> First of all, I'm trying to get the image of a super squirt gun full of jizz out of my head. Ah man, now I'm trying to get rid of the picture of one guy filling it up. You've changed since France, Eckhard. It was the cheese, wasn't it? As for the 15 years? Time off for good behavior and anyone entering prison for squirting jizz at little girls had better be *polite*. The pragmatic practice of Merkin law could be a good thread. Asset forfeiture as a way to stuff a Green Box. Profiling as cause to search cultists. Mandatory sentencing and 3-strikes laws as weapons in the cause. Here's a nasty little meme from a Spider Robinson story. Ob some DG by thinking of it as a meditation on the law applied like judo. It's very frustrating to try to prosecute a case of rape. I don't think I need to elaborate the myriad frustrations in trying to prosecute rape. But, the one fact of the case that can be prosecuted with no corroborating witnesses is the perp's indecent exposure. Successful prosecution of indecent exposure cannot be obstructed by speculations about the victim. Here's how it works: DA: Did the defendant expose his penis to you? Victim: Yes. DA: Did you ask the defendant to show you his penis? Victim: No. The Defense has the opportunity to say that the defendant did not do that. But they would, wouldn't they? So the rapist goes to prison for the maximum allowable sentence due to the extenuating circumstances of the exposure being in the course of a rape. Which is recorded in the records seen by the parole board. Also, be sure to let everyone in the prison that he is there for waggling his willy. That'll get him some respect. It has that Pragmatic Solution to a Nagging Problem caused by a Bad Person vibe that makes me feel unclean. Mark McFadden From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Jonathan Turner [j.turner@irishnews.com] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:29 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: The Conspiracy Slips Up At 02:53 AM 5/4/00 EDT, you wrote: > That tears it. We're going to talk about The Prisoner and the Village right >now. In another bizarre twist of events which proves that none of you are real and that my subconscious is creating this all for my entertainment as I float in a sensory deprivation tank somewhere, I changed my desktop wallpaper yesterday after about four months of DG-logos to... yep, No 6 driving off in his Lotus 7, glaring back over his shoulder as only he can... We could talk about the Prisoner forever, and hell, why not, because there are plenty worse topics. And as the Monarch of All Things Cold and Reptilian has pointed out, a DG-style Resort is just the thing for DG. Maybe we could have a Hunting Horror as Rover... But... I'll leave the dicussion of Is Fall-out Really The End? or whatever to the rest of ya. On a similar note to bizarre scenarios, has anyone seen the movie Cube? Saw it for the first time last night. The basic premise is that six people wake up in a bizarre cube, a selection of cubes within a bigger cube, some of which are filled with bizarre traps such as flying cheese wire, flamethrowers and acid sprayers. The six folk are all ordinary, apparently, but each have a unique skill which will help or hamper them escape. If there is any escape. The whole concept was an ideal OUTLOOK scenario. Very highly recommended. Be seeing you!! (Haven't said that in a while) Jonathan From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Robert Thomas [ThomasR@Cardiff.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 4:56 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: DG: Perhaps Nuking Deep one cities is a BAD THING. Hello All, I've been following the recent deep one threads with interest but one thing bothered me; the casual manner with which Nuking was offered as a method of destroying Deep One cities. (Oh and the various discussions of how they DO sank the Thresher anyone want to work out what Shrivel will do to the hull of a sub? Mind you I liked the idea in UO of the DO sinking the Titanic!). Anyway back to the Nukes, assuming that the East Coast (off Massachussests) city is, or was, the target, here's an interesting possible side effect to stop your players or to inflict on them after they do it. Makes a good Deep One plot as well: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_734000/734696.stm and the location of these cracks would seem to fit with idea of a deep one city based around the need for access to land / the deep ocean. these crack are located "just along the top of the slope where shallow inshore waters give way to the deep ocean" seems ideal for the three stages of DO progression a place where they can all meet. Anyway BCNU Rob. PS We need more people to order a shirt come on! J.R.E.Thomas. ThomasR@cardiff.ac.uk Our kind. Us people. All of us that started the game with a crooked cue, that wanted so much and got so little, that meant so good and did so bad. Jim Thompson 'The Killer Inside Me' http://n.ethz.ch/student/hankef/DeltaGreen/tshirt.htm From: owner-dgrpg@delta-green.com on behalf of Eckhard Huelshoff [EHuelshoff@t-online.de] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 4:17 AM To: dgrpg@delta-green.com Subject: Re: DG: Suspect Held in Semen Squirt-Gun Attacks LizardRoi@aol.com schrieb: [snip] > First of all, I'm trying to get the image of a super squirt gun full of jizz > out of my head. Ah man, now I'm trying to get rid of the picture of one guy > filling it up. I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused by me reporting this news story. > You've changed since France, Eckhard. Je suis desolée. >It was the cheese, wasn't it? I'd rather blame it on my love for Pastis. [ And thinking of the looks of Pastis [ or Pernod in the less civilised regions of this world ] mixed with water, the fact that I posted this sperm-story gets even more bizarre ] ECKHARD