From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Julian Breen [jules@bigjules.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 7:37 PM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] killing sprees and the Social Control Program > >This is the problem I have always had with Majestic 12. The key people in >Majestic 12 have names and stats. One can conclude from those that, at some >point, the PCs are supposed to encounter them, and, as the idiots in the old >Dungeons and Dragons game I used to play would say "If they got stats, we >can kill 'em." Chances are that if your PCs ever got close to any Board member to be in such a position to kill them, then they have been set up to do exactly that by one of the other members of the Board. The way I see it its not unfeasible that MJ-12 *could* be brought down. Likely though, that this would be with a whole lot of help from the organisation itself. There are a lot of men at cross purposes within it. > If Majestic 12 is really supposed to be this hovering >threat, always present and never defeatable, then the principles shouldn't >have names or stats. Key figures, like Lepus and Yrjo should, but you >should never be able to see the heads of the serpents to chop them off. > Even if one of the heads were removed it wouldn't stop the threat. It would simply change the agenda. Depending upon which head got chopped, a campaign could spin in some very different directions. -- Julian Breen _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of ialdaloboth *genzundheit!* [ialdaloboth@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:18 PM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] DG: Azathoth Located? >Folks, > > NASA may have detected Azathoth, cleverly disguised as a huge black >hole! Michael, you fool! That's not Azathoth... that's Tim Curry's acting career! J. Edward _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of David A. Farnell [1639556911@jcom.home.ne.jp] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:12 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Weird, weird By way of Ethan Butterfield (since I happily no longer receive messages from Khorne/Fennell): > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 05:27:08PM -0600, Bryan Fennell wrote: > > Whoah, settle down. I was just asking. Evidently, its not a popular idea, > > so lets just leave it at that. All I was saying is that the Delphi forums > > SEEM to work well, and MIGHT be seen as a viable alternative. Apparently, > > they aren't seen as such an alternative, so that's all that has to be said > > about it. And actually Chris, in utter, complete honesty, I don't remember > > any dialogue on this topic before. Then you've got a very short memory, Khorne. You proposed the idea in virtually the same words on May 21. Every on-list response was against it. If you want to review the many reasons why, check the archives. And seriously, if you want to start a forum, there is nothing stopping you, so why don't you just do it and quit talking about it? Dave _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Andy Robertson [andywrobertson@clara.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:51 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] killing sprees and the Social Control Program ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Lizard King" > > > > Perhaps society needs *more* order, more restraint, more hierarchy, to > > resist the Endtimes: (it ain't a cool idea: but is it a true idea?) > > We can play dueling history here, but I am honestly asking when more order, > restraint and hierarchy has been a good thing for the majority of humans. Ah. You are sniffing a RW agenda here. To cut the crap, what I am "for" in a RW sense is, um, small autonomous high-tech semi-tribal communities, I guess. And I'm **very** much in favor of restraint, but hey, that's just my kink. Everything's more beautiful if you put a frame round it. But no, I agree with you completely about hierarchies. I don't **like** them either. However, so what? --- *** --- My suggestion, in a gaming context, is that it is not inconceivable that destructive elites could *exploit* our ideals, and our refusal to compromise them, in order to destroy us. To push that back to a RW context - my ideal small semi-autonomous high tech tribes would probably fight among each other like rats and be hopelessly vunerable to the first Empire that came into being. So, they must sacrifice some of their independence in self-defence. Thus my answer to you is that self-defence against aggressive Empires is the only case in which hierarchy benefits "the majority of human beings". ---- *** --- The real world situation is of course far more complex than this, but I think analogies can be drawn. Theoretically we are in a state that is the development and corruption of of that "fusion of independent states". ((And that is true everywhere in the world, not just in the USA. England, for example, is a fusion of many independent small kingdoms that were once counties, and still retain their individual nature to some extent)). There has been a long progress from tribe to nation to empire, with a concomitant reduction of accountability of the rulers to the ruled. But this steady increase in hierarchy is a necessity for survival in a hard world. It must be balanced with freedom, and that is the task called politics, the science of living in communities larger than the tribe. But "balance" means the **necessity** of some sort of authority, law, hierarchy, however we hate it. No, I guess I wouldn't allow these ideas to play around my mind unless I had a touch of the fascist in my makeup. I confess that. I always rooted for Darth Vader. --- *** --- We are very much in the endgame here. What I have been talking about is all politics 101. It was all worked out by the time of Darius. Political sophistication has gone 'way beyond that. I understand the heroic response. "Better to die than to become morally inhuman!". OK. Let's take that response as a "given". Now we must ask ourselves, who might be understanding that given, that idealistic response, and exploiting it? Who might be taking this response and using it as a shield or cover for other agendas? There is an unexamined assumpton here that what we need to do to fight the Endtimes is to be more "good". You have to question that. There is no such thing as good or evil. ((But of course, we have to live as if there was.)) ((so we lie to ourselves, skillfully)). Make RW analogies to taste. The Glove Cleaner _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:25 AM To: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: BOUNCE deltagreen@revolutionsf.com: Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 1 >From Adam.Crossingham@markelintl.com Tue Sep 11 04:25:06 2001 Received: from lonsv024.markelintl.com ([212.161.32.234]) by revolutionsf.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22916 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonex032.terra-nova (unverified) by lonsv024.markelintl.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:23:46 +0000 Received: by LONEX032 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:23:46 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Crossingham, Adam" To: "'deltagreen@revolutionsf.com'" Subject: Missing messages Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:23:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It seems that the list continued during the time I was unsubbed, so I'm missing a few messages. Can some kind soul forward the messages after Jeff Schreier's "RE: [DG] questionable shan behaviour" (sent Friday) but before my "[DG] Echoes in the silence" message (sent yesterday). Thanks in advance. AFC From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:29 AM To: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: BOUNCE deltagreen@revolutionsf.com: Non-member submission from [Bomias1@aol.com] >From Bomias1@aol.com Tue Sep 11 07:29:08 2001 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by revolutionsf.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21241 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:29:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Bomias1@aol.com Received: from Bomias1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id 4.c9.154cbd99 (25309) for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:28:59 EDT Subject: Where the hell is everybody! To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Hey! I haven't gotten any mail form the list in days and I was just wondering if something evil had happened to the list again. What gives? The Thug Whisperer "Back off man! I'm a scientist." ------Peter Venkman From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Davide Mana [doctor.dee@libero.it] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:31 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: [DG] Twin Towers Two planes crashed into the Twin Towers in New York City. What the hell's happening out there?! Davide Mana Torino, Italy _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of dg@fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu.au Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:47 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Davide Mana wrote: > Two planes crashed into the Twin Towers in New York City. > > What the hell's happening out there?! And the Pentagon too apparently. >From Rob Shankley and myself, our sympathies go out to our American list members. -- Tim Betz http://fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu/~vag/dg/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Jussi Marttila [velcrokf@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:41 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: [DG] ... and then we take Berlin (and Prague!) TO: All Agents and Friendlies near Berlin or Prague Me and a fellow listmember ( Mr. Nylund, who is a filthy lurker) will in a few weeks leave this depressing, plagued-by-rain country for Central Europe, unless Murphy intervenes. We'll take a cruise bucket to Germany and stay in Berlin for a few days, and continue our journey to Prague, where we shall launch OPERATION AUTUMN STORM. This means that for the following week we shall acquire unregulated Soviet military hardware, drink absinthe in blasphemous quantities, visit occult bookstores and be ripped off by greedy cab drivers. So, if any listmembers are currenly residing in Berlin or Prague, you can either contact me off-list so we can meet, have a few drinks and talk shop (= crazy conspiracy material) or you may wish to leave town. Remember, that this will be a DGML op, and to quote the MiB: " A good DG scenario is where everyone dies and everything blows up. Or vice versa." Jussi Marttila Freelance Espionage Specialist and Writer ( that's what my new business cards will say!) Andreas Nylund In-Between-Thing ( he should get a better job title) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Nick Brownlow [stabernide@netscape.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:56 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: RE: [DG] Twin Towers < >What the hell's happening out there?!>> I believe a third has crashed near the Pentagon. No links - all the news sites seem to be bottlenecked. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Nick Brownlow [stabernide@netscape.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:59 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: RE: Re: [DG] Twin Towers Oh - and this is supposedly the result of 'terrorist action'. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of dg@fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu.au Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:06 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: RE: [DG] Twin Towers On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Nick Brownlow wrote: > < > > >What the hell's happening out there?!>> > > I believe a third has crashed near the Pentagon. No links - all the news sites seem to be bottlenecked. > The second WTC building hit has just fallen over, http://www.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.abc.net.au/ are both responding to me... cnn.com is fairly well flooded with requests... -- Tim Betz http://fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu/~vag/dg/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Rayburn, Russell E. [RERayburn@cmhmetro.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:11 AM To: 'deltagreen@revolutionsf.com' Subject: RE: [DG] Twin Towers to all: rumors abound, but pentagon is on fire. two aircraft did hit the twin towers. all aircraft in USA have been grounded by FAA. Suspect no-fly enforced by air national guard. keep an eye on events here in USA... look for 'emergency measures'. thanks to BBC World Service for live audio. -----Original Message----- From: dg@fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu.au [mailto:dg@fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu.au] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:47 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Davide Mana wrote: > Two planes crashed into the Twin Towers in New York City. > > What the hell's happening out there?! And the Pentagon too apparently. >From Rob Shankley and myself, our sympathies go out to our American list members. -- Tim Betz http://fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu/~vag/dg/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of david wienecke [dwienecke@usa.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:14 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [RE: Re: [DG] Twin Towers] Information is sketchy but it looks like the military has been activated. Planes were hijacked (DC3's) this morning and run into one of the twin towers The pentigon was apparently hit by a helicopter and a plane All planes in the USA have been grounded All federal facilities have been emptied Military law is in place in several locations This is all heavily supported rumor. _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of David A. Farnell [1639556911@jcom.home.ne.jp] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:15 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers From: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Davide Mana wrote: > > Two planes crashed into the Twin Towers in New York City. > > What the hell's happening out there?! > > And the Pentagon too apparently. > From Rob Shankley and myself, our sympathies go out to our American list > members. Thank you, Tim and Rob. Oh. my. god. One of the Towers just collapsed. Nervy and all others in NYC and DC--are you OK? Report in. Dave stunned This...is going to get much worse before it's over. And not just for America. Oh...hell. _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Andrew James [andrew_jamesdg@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:21 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: [DG] Twin Towers Not only the twin towers, but also the Pentagon and Capital Hill.... And one of the World Trade towers has now collapsed Looks like the start fo the End times Agent Andrew ===== "Sergent, Chap with wings, Three rounds Rapid" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:26 AM To: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: BOUNCE deltagreen@revolutionsf.com: Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 1 >From Adam.Crossingham@markelintl.com Tue Sep 11 09:26:00 2001 Received: from lonsv024.markelintl.com ([212.161.32.234]) by revolutionsf.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25609 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:25:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonex032.terra-nova (unverified) by lonsv024.markelintl.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:24:37 +0000 Received: by LONEX032 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:24:38 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Crossingham, Adam" To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Missing messages Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:24:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It seems that the list continued during the time I was unsubbed, so I'm missing a few messages. Can some kind soul forward the messages after Jeff Schreier's "RE: [DG] questionable shan behaviour" (sent Friday) but before my "[DG] Echoes in the silence" message (sent yesterday). Thanks in advance. AFC From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Tim Craft [timothycraft@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:23 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: RE: [DG] Twin Towers Wow. And I would hate to attach any DG significance to such a horrible thing. If anyone had any doubts about the US being untouchable by terrorists - those doubts should be gone now. --- Nick Brownlow wrote: > < York City. > > > >What the hell's happening out there?!>> > > I believe a third has crashed near the Pentagon. No > links - all the news sites seem to be bottlenecked. > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and > great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of > buying online with Shop@Netscape! > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account > today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > _______________________________________ > The Delta Green Mailing List > http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of david wienecke [dwienecke@usa.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:31 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [RE: [DG] Twin Towers] Oh on by the way heavy rumor that we still have one recently hijacked plane un-accounted for. I am going to ground in the hills until this is all over. David W _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of dg@fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu.au Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:36 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: RE: [DG] Twin Towers On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tim Craft wrote: > Wow. And I would hate to attach any DG significance > to such a horrible thing. > > If anyone had any doubts about the US being > untouchable by terrorists - those doubts should be > gone now. > The other tower of the WTC has fallen over too, you can't see Manhattan Island for the smoke... Other rumours: A car bomb may have exploded at the state department and another hijacked plane may be heading to Washington. This is too horrific for words... -- Tim Betz http://fomalhaut.mmcc.monash.edu/~vag/dg/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Grumpsie [grumpsie@chello.se] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:37 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers Partial collapse at Pentagon. CNN perpetual live broadcasts this is big feeee-uck My girlfriend is in New York oh my god End Times indeed /grumps Tim Craft wrote: > > Wow. And I would hate to attach any DG significance > to such a horrible thing. > > If anyone had any doubts about the US being > untouchable by terrorists - those doubts should be > gone now. > > --- Nick Brownlow wrote: > > < > York City. > > > > > >What the hell's happening out there?!>> > > > > I believe a third has crashed near the Pentagon. No > > links - all the news sites seem to be bottlenecked. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and > > great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of > > buying online with Shop@Netscape! > > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account > > today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > > > _______________________________________ > > The Delta Green Mailing List > > http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > _______________________________________ > The Delta Green Mailing List > http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Bryan Fennell [bryan.fennell@uleth.ca] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:44 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] killing sprees and the Social Control Program "1) This SCP idea is, essentially, that there are illuminati who provoke > violence in order to destabilise society and concentrate power in their > puppet-agencies." Not as I originally conceived of it. There weren't any heads, any directors, just a sort of theme that policy was directed along. _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Ethan Butterfield [primus@veris.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:45 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [RE: [DG] Twin Towers] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:31:00AM -0400, david wienecke wrote: > Oh on by the way heavy rumor that we still have one recently hijacked plane > un-accounted for. I am going to ground in the hills until this is all over. One of the hijacked planes apparently just crashed outside Pittsburgh moments ago. Remember the date: September 11, 2001. - -- "And as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention." - Talking Heads, "(Nothing But) Flowers" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7niNuAmwSMwnpLHgRAkT7AJ0frbbsD1lns91L0yOTwRHfX+v8owCfbOQG +P3aCoiSI/Z+DQstJUJWgUU= =7/nB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Rayburn, Russell E. [RERayburn@cmhmetro.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:48 AM To: 'deltagreen@revolutionsf.com' Subject: RE: [RE: [DG] Twin Towers] now hearing rumors on hijacked plane missing from around Pittsburgh.. pilot may have rammed plane into ground to prevent hijackers from using it in terrorist attack. -----Original Message----- From: david wienecke [mailto:dwienecke@usa.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:31 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [RE: [DG] Twin Towers] Oh on by the way heavy rumor that we still have one recently hijacked plane un-accounted for. I am going to ground in the hills until this is all over. David W _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Grumpsie [grumpsie@chello.se] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:44 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [RE: [DG] Twin Towers] I can confirm carbomb and a suspected hijacked plane being monitored by the pentagon /gr david wienecke wrote: > > Oh on by the way heavy rumor that we still have one recently hijacked plane > un-accounted for. I am going to ground in the hills until this is all over. > > David W > _______________________________________ > The Delta Green Mailing List > http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Jon Capps [jon@monster-net.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:50 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: RE: [DG] Twin Towers > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com > [mailto:owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com]On Behalf Of Davide Mana > Sent: Tuesday, 11 September, 2001 09:31 > To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com > Subject: [DG] Twin Towers > > > Two planes crashed into the Twin Towers in New York City. > > What the hell's happening out there?! > > Davide Mana > Torino, Italy I just heard one has crashed into the Pentagon as well. Don't know any more. I just woke up and turned on the radio. Jon Capps _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Jon Capps [jon@monster-net.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:50 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: RE: [DG] Twin Towers Second tower just collapsed. State dept building was attacked by a car bomb. fuck. Jon Capps _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of David A. Farnell [1639556911@jcom.home.ne.jp] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:51 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers Sorry if I repeat myself, but my earlier message hasn't shown up after quite a long time... Nervy and other NYC and DC agents--report in. Let us know you're OK. Dave (My mother's birthday...and it's going to be a national day of mourning for the rest of her life and beyond.) _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Ethan Butterfield [primus@veris.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:52 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:49:31AM -0400, Jon Capps wrote: > I just heard one has crashed into the Pentagon as well. Don't know any > more. I just woke up and turned on the radio. A second plane is apparently en route to Washington. According to CNN, fighters have been scrambled to intercept it. - -- "And as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention." - Talking Heads, "(Nothing But) Flowers" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7niUgAmwSMwnpLHgRAvu6AJ9R3QjaseZeBBL9eIsDoEZMpeRkIACfXE4s 5RJHMJroaGWEQNP/JnkiqYE= =GK7K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of david wienecke [dwienecke@usa.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:52 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: [DG] Twin Towers Somerset airport near Pittsburgh NW Pennsylvania. Large plane crash. Apparently we have several planes unaccounted for. Both twin towers have completely collapsed rumor mil says there were additional bombs placed in the building but it may have been a structural collapse. The pentagon has also suffered a structural collapse.There is a airliner headed to the pentagon. I think we are going to see airliners shot down rather than allow the terrorist to continue. Things are going to get worse before they get better. _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Bill Nichols [themaninawhitecar@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:03 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers --- "David A. Farnell" <1639556911@jcom.home.ne.jp> wrote: > From: > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Davide Mana wrote: > > > Two planes crashed into the Twin Towers in > New York City. > > > What the hell's happening out there?! > Dave > stunned > > This...is going to get much worse before it's > over. And not just for > America. Oh...hell. Beyond the obvious, massive loss of life, (up to 50,000 people work in the World Trade Center alone), for which there are no words to express the sorrow, horror and grief. There is also the follow-up. Whomever is responsible for this has just cost themselves any, and I mean any, sympathy for their cause here in the U.S. Does anyone doubt what the U.S. will do now? Only more blood, suffering and pain will follow from this. No good for anyone, no good at all. Bill Also stunned (but even that word isn't enough) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Grumpsie [grumpsie@chello.se] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:02 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers fighters in the air /gr david wienecke wrote: > > Somerset airport near Pittsburgh NW Pennsylvania. Large plane crash. > Apparently we have several planes unaccounted for. Both twin towers have > completely collapsed rumor mil says there were additional bombs placed in the > building but it may have been a structural collapse. The pentagon has also > suffered a structural collapse.There is a airliner headed to the pentagon. I > think we are going to see airliners shot down rather than allow the terrorist > to continue. Things are going to get worse before they get better. > > _______________________________________ > The Delta Green Mailing List > http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Chris Womack [jcwomack@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:17 AM To: deltagreen revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers Guys, at the risk of sounding callous, can we please not continue to spam the list with dribbles of information? We're all watching the news, we're all following what's going on. Perhaps we should have a 24-hour moratorium for this particular discussion thread, until we've got a somewhat clearer picture and more perspective on exactly what has happened. Please, you must have something more productive that you can do than sit here blathering about how horrible the world is this morning. It should be painfully obvious to everybody that this is no game; hence, I don't think a game forum is the best place to discuss it, at least not while it's still happening. Thank you-- C Chris Womack jcwomack@earthlink.net Keeper of the DGML (Ret'd.) _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/ From: owner-deltagreen@revolutionsf.com on behalf of Julian Breen [jules@bigjules.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:25 AM To: deltagreen@revolutionsf.com Subject: Re: [DG] Twin Towers >> From Rob Shankley and myself, our sympathies go out to our American list >> members. > Absolutely. This is beyond belief. How many more cities will be ablaze before the day is out? The orchestration is phenomenal. As Dave Farnell wrote, there are going to be terrible repercussions. I shudder to think in which direction George W. could take all this. -- Julian Breen _______________________________________ The Delta Green Mailing List http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/